Happy with our seeding?

[JerseyCityHawki]

For sure but I definitely am not happy with being in the same bracket with the Zags.... oh well, if we can make a deep run maybe the hawks can finally give them a big L.. Iowa is battle tested unlike Gonzaga however it seems anyone they play regardless ends up getting beat.. one game at a time I guess - Go Hawks

 

[dirtypool]

If you want to be a champion, youre gonna have to beat some top teams eventually.

doesn’t matter what bracket they are placed in, they will have to deal with a 1 seed somewhere

 

[TheTruthTheWholeTruth]

Gonzaga is the best team in CBB but they’re not unbeatable. Maybe a team like Virginia can play well enough, and slow enough, to keep it close. I would give my left arm for a rematch with them. Mainly because it means Iowa made the Elite 8.

 

[im4hawks50595]

Byu had them on the ropes and had a bad second half. Just hard to keep their fire power on offense down for the whole game.

 

[WadeWilson]

I'm really happy with our region. I don't see any problem with our first 2 games and am comfortable with our 3rd game. Oregon/VCU is a blowout game . Mark it down.

 

[sultanofsuede]

so we basically got the 8 seed overall, right? Would have liked to sneak into the Michigan bracket with a 5 seed. That being said, I don’t hate our path to Gonzaga.

 

[CEIABall]

Byu had them on the ropes and had a bad second half. Just hard to keep their fire power on offense down for the whole game.

BYU shot 9-13 from 3 in the 1st half of that game, not really a sustainable shooting streak.

 

[CEIABall]

I think we got a great draw up until playing Gonzaga.. hopefully they get upset by then

 

[Suterman]

We have a darn good draw. 3 winnable games before we see the Zags. I just hope we take care of business and win the games we are favored in. Early line is Iowa -14.5 against CCU.

 

[InsaneHawkJJP]

so we basically got the 8 seed overall, right? Would have liked to sneak into the Michigan bracket with a 5 seed. That being said, I don’t hate our path to Gonzaga.

We are the 7 seed. Good draw overall, now there’s just one thing left to do. Just win baby! Go Hawks!

 

[LetsGoHawks83]

It's like people thought we were going to get a magical bracket where we played 15 seeds all the way to the final 4.

Everyone in the round of 32 is borderline top 25 and a challenge.

 

[anon_b29nm7v7dwp6r]

It's like people thought we were going to get a magical bracket where we played 15 seeds all the way to the final 4.

Everyone in the round of 32 is borderline top 25 and a challenge.

Yeah, I mean getting seeded with Gonzaga as a potential rematch is not ideal. However you are correct, as I have said in other threads gotta beat them at some point.

This team should be able to realistically make it to the Sweet 16, they do that I’ll be happy and the rest will be gravy

 

[MeetTheFerentz]

IMO, Ohio St's performance in the BTT gave them the #2 in Baylor's region and dropped us to the #2 in Gonzaga's region. Their spot is quite a bit better - everyone on their half of the bracket is overseeded except Texas Tech, and, of course, they don't have Gonzaga staring them in the face when they reach the Elite 8. In our bracket, Kansas, USC and VCU are all underseeded (should have been a 2, 5 and 9, respectively, IMO).

Like it's been mentioned above, there are no EASY paths to the Final Four, but for the Hawkeyes to do it, they are likely going to have to beat the team that is unequivocally considered the best in the country, is undefeated and has already made us look bad once.

 

[BirdistheWord]

so we basically got the 8 seed overall, right? Would have liked to sneak into the Michigan bracket with a 5 seed. That being said, I don’t hate our path to Gonzaga.

Yeah, it seems like that because we are against the overall 1. I believe, they adjusted us away from other B1G 1's to spread out our conference. We are technically the overall 7.

 

[RobSipe11]

I'm confused on the Gonzaga love. Iowa shot very poorly in that loss, their defense is significantly better now than it was then, and Gonzaga has not been truly challenged for a month or two. With all that being said, I am a glass half full kind of guy, maybe in this case it should be half empty?
I feel the need to clarify a little. I am well aware that Gonzaga is really good, but I was hoping for a rematch against them due to the factors I stated above.

 

[MAXIMUSHAWKEYE]

If we do make it to the elite 8. I'll be very disappointed if we don't give Gonzaga a much better game than we did the first time. We have picked up the defensive intensity and we know what they are about.

 

[carrier9]

IMO, Ohio St's performance in the BTT gave them the #2 in Baylor's region and dropped us to the #2 in Gonzaga's region. Their spot is quite a bit better - everyone on their half of the bracket is overseeded except Texas Tech, and, of course, they don't have Gonzaga staring them in the face when they reach the Elite 8. In our bracket, Kansas, USC and VCU are all underseeded (should have been a 2, 5 and 9, respectively, IMO).

Like it's been mentioned above, there are no EASY paths to the Final Four, but for the Hawkeyes to do it, they are likely going to have to beat the team that is unequivocally considered the best in the country, is undefeated and has already made us look bad once.

100% right imo.

 

[hexumhawk]

I think we got a great draw up until playing Gonzaga.. hopefully they get upset by then

This is kind of my thought also.

GCU should be more than beatable
Oregon has not looked good lately and is a team we should beat
KU has been all over the map but not scary
Gonzaga we have already seen and they played really well against us. You would think we would have a better game.

 

[hawkedoff]

I don't think Gonzaga ran us out in the first meeting as is being claimed. It was a good game and they beat us. Their all world guard shot well above his three point ability and garza fouled out their bigs. Without suggs shooting above his average we win going away in that game

 

[bulletproof90]

I like our path decently well:
- Oregon is a tricky team, perhaps better than their seed (just don't know enough about the PAC-12), and has a great coach in Altman who has taken them to a F4 and, most recently, took a double-digit-seeded Oregon to the S16 -- but I think their lack of ability to guard Garza is going to be a nightmare for them defensively and we should handle them fairly easily. Know next to nothing about VCU so can't comment on them.
- Kansas: dealing with Covid, look very beatable this year (had to somehow come up with a big comeback to avoid losing to UTEP recently). USC would be a challenge if they make it to the S16 but also a team we should beat.
- Gonzaga: Will be tough and I would pick them as more likely to beat us should we both make it (and I'll point out here that, as with us, it's far from a guarantee they will even advance to this point). But I think it's a winnable game, for reasons that have already been pointed out, the biggest ones being that we're both different teams at the end of this season compared to the beginning and that we shot poorly the first time around.

That said, I'm a little ticked Ohio State got seeded above us, considering the way they ended the regular season (which included a double-digit loss to us), but I guess beating a cold, injured Michigan team was a big enough win to vault them above us? OSU's path looks pretty darn cake; I keep advancing them to the F4 in my head looking at that region even though I'm not particularly high on them.

In any case, for a national championship calibre team -- which I think we are (FiveThirtyEight puts us as the 4th most likely to win it all, even with Gonzaga, the heavy favorites in their model, being in our region) -- any loss short of a national championship will be devastating, and the order we play teams means little if that is our goal. If we do lose, it might change whatever bitter consolation prize we end up with, but just by a little bit.

 

[squeezebox]

We are the 7 seed. Good draw overall, now there’s just one thing left to do. Just win baby! Go Hawks!

How would Iowa be the 7 seed overall when they were stuck in the bracket with the #1 overall seed?

 

[paladinhawk]

How would Iowa be the 7 seed overall when they were stuck in the bracket with the #1 overall seed?

The primary choices were the Gonzaga and Baylor brackets; the committee decided Ohio St. deserved the higher seed.

 

[DodgerHawki]

IMO, Ohio St's performance in the BTT gave them the #2 in Baylor's region and dropped us to the #2 in Gonzaga's region. Their spot is quite a bit better - everyone on their half of the bracket is overseeded except Texas Tech, and, of course, they don't have Gonzaga staring them in the face when they reach the Elite 8. In our bracket, Kansas, USC and VCU are all underseeded (should have been a 2, 5 and 9, respectively, IMO).

Like it's been mentioned above, there are no EASY paths to the Final Four, but for the Hawkeyes to do it, they are likely going to have to beat the team that is unequivocally considered the best in the country, is undefeated and has already made us look bad once.

Correct. Oregon is not a great team, but once they got healthy they have been a top 15-ish team for the past month. I would prefer to be in the bracket OSU is in, but Iowa isn't so no point in belaboring the point. Starting with Round 2, every game is lose-able. Even Round 1 is, but Iowa would have to play really bad against GCU to lose. Iowa could play decent against Oregon/VCU and lose.

The great 1987 team had to win 2 2-point games to get to the Elite 8 (the outcome to not be mentioned). There are no easy roads. It would help a lot if Gonzaga were to get knocked out before Iowa would get to them. But I would be ecstatic if Iowa just got there and gave themselves a chance.

 

[HawkAttackDial911]

How would Iowa be the 7 seed overall when they were stuck in the bracket with the #1 overall seed?

Ohio St. was ranked higher so they get to play the lower ranked #1 seed that isn't a Big Ten team.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketbal...aa-tournament-bids-all-68-march-madness-teams

 

[vacuum_cleaner]

Re: Gonzaga Man if we could get Timme in foul trouble, we'd win. They are not deep at all, play about 6 people.

Suggs isn't going to shoot 7-10 from 3 again.

Looong ways to go before playing them though.

 

[InsaneHawkJJP]

Every team in the men’s 2021 bracket, ranked 1-68

Here’s the 2021 NCAA tournament field ranked 1-68 by the NCAA selection committee.

www.sbnation.com

 

[Ronman]

Gonzaga may not have played any decent teams for a month or so, but they will have to beat some good teams before we would get a shot at them.

 

[haightt]

IMO, Ohio St's performance in the BTT gave them the #2 in Baylor's region and dropped us to the #2 in Gonzaga's region. Their spot is quite a bit better - everyone on their half of the bracket is overseeded except Texas Tech, and, of course, they don't have Gonzaga staring them in the face when they reach the Elite 8. In our bracket, Kansas, USC and VCU are all underseeded (should have been a 2, 5 and 9, respectively, IMO).

Like it's been mentioned above, there are no EASY paths to the Final Four, but for the Hawkeyes to do it, they are likely going to have to beat the team that is unequivocally considered the best in the country, is undefeated and has already made us look bad once.

Agree. Weird to think we've played three of the top-4 seeds and lost four times to them. Baylor was the exception and would have loved to have been in their bracket. Agree, too, that OSU jumped us; maybe Alabama, too.

 

[Jizzer]

IMO, Ohio St's performance in the BTT gave them the #2 in Baylor's region and dropped us to the #2 in Gonzaga's region. Their spot is quite a bit better - everyone on their half of the bracket is overseeded except Texas Tech, and, of course, they don't have Gonzaga staring them in the face when they reach the Elite 8. In our bracket, Kansas, USC and VCU are all underseeded (should have been a 2, 5 and 9, respectively, IMO).

Like it's been mentioned above, there are no EASY paths to the Final Four, but for the Hawkeyes to do it, they are likely going to have to beat the team that is unequivocally considered the best in the country, is undefeated and has already made us look bad once.

Not sure I'd rather have to play Baylor over Gonzaga, their guards are dominant as well, and they have 3. On top of that, Oral Roberts even seems like a tougher first round opponent than Grand Canyon.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

It's not the most ideal for me, especially if we're talking about a Final Four run, but f*** it, whatever at this point.

Not sure though why the committee chose to reward Gonzaga with the 2, 3, and 4 seeded teams in their region that they already beat................

 

[fezzador]

If we do make it to the elite 8. I'll be very disappointed if we don't give Gonzaga a much better game than we did the first time. We have picked up the defensive intensity and we know what they are about.

Agreed, but man oh man Iowa could use Nunge's services right about now. He might not be a starter, but he's a valuable piece to the puzzle and could be the difference between a nice S16 run and an unforgettable F4 run. Hopefully his temporary role as cheerleader will suffice.

 

[Hawksfor3]

It's like people thought we were going to get a magical bracket where we played 15 seeds all the way to the final 4.

Everyone in the round of 32 is borderline top 25 and a challenge.

This. And if I remember correctly (and please correct me if I'm wrong), John Beilein stated that all of the teams selected for the tourney are there based on winning their conference tourneys and achievement during the regular season, and are capable of beating anyone in the tournament. Top to bottom, all are capable of winning.

 

[MeetTheFerentz]

On top of that, Oral Roberts even seems like a tougher first round opponent than Grand Canyon.

Just your opinion, I guess, but I'm not sure where it comes from, unless you really know small conference teams well. Every single metric has GCU well above ORU. Consensus of those would indicate that ORU probably should have been a #16 and GCU a #14.

 

[Greenway4Prez]

Not sure though why the committee chose to reward Gonzaga with the 2, 3, and 4 seeded teams in their region that they already beat................

This right here irks me.

 

[MeetTheFerentz]

Not sure though why the committee chose to reward Gonzaga with the 2, 3, and 4 seeded teams in their region that they already beat................

This right here irks me.

I noticed that, too, although I'm not so sure they are being "rewarded." It very well could be the opposite - The Committee might be anti-Gonzaga and put them in a slot where they would likely have to beat 2 really good teams twice in the same season. BYU played them better and better each time each time they met up this year. Wouldn't surprise me at all if VA, KS or IA were able to win a rematch.