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Has HORT shifted red?

This whole place went downhill as soon as JRHawk left. It just isn't the same without his "lets all be friends, I'm having a tough time in life" posts, followed by his "You pork eating stupid asshole, kill yourself" posts 15 minutes later.

He truly kept this place positive, and made it a special place. Those days are long gone.

Every single time he came back he flamed out the exact same way. We are missing that sort of consistency.
 
This whole place went downhill as soon as JRHawk left. It just isn't the same without his "lets all be friends, I'm having a tough time in life" posts, followed by his "You pork eating stupid asshole, kill yourself" posts 15 minutes later.

He truly kept this place positive, and made it a special place. Those days are long gone.
who was that one dude on penn state game days be like "guys, lets not stoop to making fun of SA" and then 10 min later be like "CHILD RAPING F*CKFACES"
 
Especially because he seemed to make a swing from conservative, to anti-Trump, to MAGA. The only constant in there is his Elon love.

I remember back in the day on Facebook watching some of the early pipelining of people. They have a few pretty simple techniques and one of those got leveraged massively in 2024. Back in 2008 or so the first pipelining groups I saw were holistic, vegan, and dietary type groups start off as normal groups and slowly end up as anarcho-crunchy groups and what became modern day RFK Jr voters. Someone like Phenom seems to have just followed a figure of authority for him into the abyss.


I hadn't seen that, thanks for linking. This bit has always resonated with me, not specific to just crunchy to alt-right, but also earnestness or profit seeking?

"In opportunistic movements, we have to ask real questions about earnestness. Are the activists using local scapegoats and camouflage fatigues in a shrewd and craven way to manipulate possible recruits? Or do they believe what they’re peddling? In the historical archive, there are examples of both kinds of behavior."
 
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I hadn't seen that, thanks for linking. This bit has always resonated with me, not specific to just crunchy to alt-right, but also earnestness or profit seeking?

"In opportunistic movements, we have to ask real questions about earnestness. Are the activists using local scapegoats and camouflage fatigues in a shrewd and craven way to manipulate possible recruits? Or do they believe what they’re peddling? In the historical archive, there are examples of both kinds of behavior."

I believe that nowadays it is more peddling than earnest. I'm a bit cynical at this point but I see grifters around every corner. Among the right wing talkers like Shapiro, Candace Owens, Peterson, Tomi Lauren etc etc, I bet there are some that aren't conservative, but being as maga as they have been online is lucrative.

Karl Marx was onto something when he said that capitalism sows the seeds of it's own destruction.
 
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I'd bet dollars to donuts you see one side "ruining the board" more than others. FWIW as I stated above I think it's actually a small segment of posters that will actually kill the board and in my 24 hours back they seem very active. For example, I have very minimal respect for you or your ideas but you're not a board killer. See, even I like to give compliments.
No, I think the board has mostly sucked for 10 or so years and got pretty much intolerable during 2020/covid. I'd say the same for you. We don't agree on much, you're mostly a prick, but you don't wreck the board... mainly bc you're capable of discussing a topic without bringing up politics/Trump.
Edit to add - I don't blame a "side" for this, it's a poster and societal problem. Years ago there were a handful of politically obsessed morons on the board but they were a tiny minority (especially pre 2008/Obama). Since then a combination of more of politics crazed poster types joining and many who previously weren't that way becoming so and here we are...
 
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Between the new batch of stolen_valor_4_a_day / rico types spamming the usual nonsense (champwhammy, arbor, sullivan, lOUisana, etc), the old guard of MAGAs that pretend to not be MAGAs increasing their posting, our both sides binsies looking like they're jumping on the "winning" side, and folks like phenomenally going straight up nutso - it seems like maybe we've hit the balance in the force (or tipping to red even) folks like @Whiskeydeltadeltatango have longed for on HORT. A look at the first couple pages and the thread starters are pretty even good guys / bad guys. Also, the "r" word and it's "ard" variations appear to have spiked significantly and possible en vogue in the current conservative lingo (thanks Eloon). I mean, it's not a surprise considering who we're dealing with but @HawkeyeShawn must be going crazy.

I've only been back 24 hours, but am I misreading the HORT room?

Edit to add: I ignore no one so I get the full HORT experience.
No. The lefties have been a lot quieter since November. Makes the other side seem louder.
 
Bothsidesians are always hard right
Here’s a thread full of them. I don’t think any of them are to the right. You only see it when right leaders do it.

Biden pre-empire pardoning people. Both-siders showing up to explain that it’s because Trump blah blah blah first.

Hell, “But Trump!” has become one of the most popular memes on here. Those both spiders usually show up by about post 3. Always lefties.

In other words, both sides both sides things.

 
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Pretty sure Hawkeye beacon has been a majority red for a few years now. Learn how to read the room.
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No, I think the board has mostly sucked for 10 or so years and got pretty much intolerable during 2020/covid. I'd say the same for you. We don't agree on much, you're mostly a prick, but you don't wreck the board... mainly bc you're capable of discussing a topic without bringing up politics/Trump.
Edit to add - I don't blame a "side" for this, it's a poster and societal problem. Years ago there were a handful of politically obsessed morons on the board but they were a tiny minority (especially pre 2008/Obama). Since then a combination of more of politics crazed poster types joining and many who previously weren't that way becoming so and here we are...
Couple things-intolerable, yet you are here. A lot.
How do you know what the board was like in 2008 yet joined in 2022?
 
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No, I think the board has mostly sucked for 10 or so years and got pretty much intolerable during 2020/covid. I'd say the same for you. We don't agree on much, you're mostly a prick, but you don't wreck the board... mainly bc you're capable of discussing a topic without bringing up politics/Trump.
Edit to add - I don't blame a "side" for this, it's a poster and societal problem. Years ago there were a handful of politically obsessed morons on the board but they were a tiny minority (especially pre 2008/Obama). Since then a combination of more of politics crazed poster types joining and many who previously weren't that way becoming so and here we are...

I can't tell you how much this pleases me to hear you say that. Thank you. I mean that.
 
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This is why I've mostly left here. Most threads get hijacked and it isn't worth the racist vitriol.
 
Many of us have posted less because, at least I, are waiting for shit to hit the fan once Republicans have full control of govt.

It's not if, but when.
Jump in. Trump hasn't done one single policy yet, and there are plenty of posts already saying his policies will fail.
 
Your kind? No. I really, really, do. I don't think you'll ever understand that.

Which is OK. I'm not out to convince you. Just don't hold your breath waiting for me on the side of the road if you blow the tire of your trailer out.
But how would you know it's me? Or do you just not stop for anyone bc they might not agree with all your world views so eff them all?
Maybe you really are just that hateful but I can tell you without hesitation, even though I think you're mostly a prick, if I saw you get hit on your bike and needed help today I'd stop and help you.
 
But how would you know it's me? Or do you just not stop for anyone bc they might not agree with all your world views so eff them all?
Maybe you really are just that hateful but I can tell you without hesitation, even though I think you're mostly a prick, if I saw you get hit on your bike and needed help today I'd stop and help you.

Uh, I know what you look like broseph.

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Edit to add: And yes, my heart is as black as coal. I really do hate most of humanity.
 
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Many of us have posted less because, at least I, are waiting for shit to hit the fan once Republicans have full control of govt.

It's not if, but when.

I kinda feel this way, I mostly have withdrawn from the political shit show, MAGA won, Let them do their victory dances and hope for the good of all of us they can actually Govern for the betterment of all of us.

While I have refrained from commenting the LA fires thread has been a sad disaster. IMO kinda summarizes why many feel this site continues to decline.
 
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I kinda feel this way, I mostly have withdrawn from the political shit show, MAGA won, Let them do their victory dances and hope for the good of all of us they can actually Govern for the betterment of all of us.

While I have refrained from commenting the LA fires thread has been a sad disaster. IMO kinda summarizes why many feel this site continues to decline.
Agree.

I am still confused Trump chooses to make the LA fires a political issue?

I know he fears Newsom, but cmon.
 
But how would you know it's me? Or do you just not stop for anyone bc they might not agree with all your world views so eff them all?
Maybe you really are just that hateful but I can tell you without hesitation, even though I think you're mostly a prick, if I saw you get hit on your bike and needed help today I'd stop and help you.
DV and I disagree a fair bit, but he's a good dude. There are malignant aholes on here but he isn't one.
 
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