Hawks only 2 top 100 RPI/.NET wins (Utah St & Virginia)

[QChawks]

Wins
Longwood 317
IMKC 196
NCC 315
Alabama St 316
W Michigan 263
Portland St 349
Virginia 97 (might go up a bit just beat VA tech)
Utah St 64
SE Louisiana 226
W Illinois 239
Maryland 116

Loses
Purdue 23
Illinois 33
Iowa St 52
Wisconsin 6

Iowa is 76th, it appears Utah St is far away our best win. What a weak ass schedule.

 

[moondog24]

Hey, we are 11-4, Fran’s on pace for another winning season!

 

[HawkeyeGenius]

Yeah, the schedule is awful.

 

[dekhawk]

I don’t think this team makes the ncaa tourney

 

[TheTruthTheWholeTruth]

It would be better to use NET since RPI is now obsolete.

 

[Hawkstrat]

The non-conference schedule was awful, but RPI is a joke.

 

[Terrykohawk]

Folks please remember. Fran even stated early on, this years schedule was light because he wanted time for this young team to grow and mesh. Yes, our opponents in non conference were not D1 title threats but if it helped the more inexperienced players grow a bit then the plan worked. Would you rather have played Gonzaga again and get blown out by 40?

 

[jonesy5960]

I'm pretty sure that the RPI is irrelevant today. Net should be used instead as it is also used by the selection committee as one of the tools for selecting and seeding teams. Iowa is currently 27th in the Net rankings.

 

[forhawks1980]

Folks please remember. Fran even stated early on, this years schedule was light because he wanted time for this young team to grow and mesh. Yes, our opponents in non conference were not D1 title threats but if it helped the more inexperienced players grow a bit then the plan worked. Would you rather have played Gonzaga again and get blown out by 40?

Experience is limited for players watching cmac and jbo from the bench

 

[perryhawk]

Experience is limited for players watching cmac and jbo from the bench

What does that even mean? If you’re trying to bad mouth Fran, JBO, and Connor for limiting playing time for other guys needing experience it makes zero sense. The only guys not getting real PT/experience are the young post players ….and that has NO relationship to JBO or Connor.

 

[QChawks]

I'm pretty sure that the RPI is irrelevant today. Net should be used instead as it is also used by the selection committee as one of the tools for selecting and seeding teams. Iowa is currently 27th in the Net rankings.

Which is a joke. Iowa is nowhere near the 27th best team. Every rating has its flaws.

All I’m doing is highlighting that we’ve beaten no one yet and lost to every team with a pulse.

 

[mooresville hawk]

Which is a joke. Iowa is nowhere near the 27th best team. Every rating has its flaws.

All I’m doing is highlighting that we’ve beaten no one yet and lost to every team with a pulse.

I am not going to claim that Iowa has played a tough schedule this year and agree with you that every rating has its flaws. Cherry picking the rating that supports your view while ignoring other ratings does not make your statement right though.

 

[DodgerHawki]

Folks please remember. Fran even stated early on, this years schedule was light because he wanted time for this young team to grow and mesh. Yes, our opponents in non conference were not D1 title threats but if it helped the more inexperienced players grow a bit then the plan worked. Would you rather have played Gonzaga again and get blown out by 40?

it's a bit of a false choice. No, Iowa should not have scheduled Gonzaga this year. But even if they had, it would have been better for their NCAA chances than playing 6-7 terrible teams like they did.

You can still play some decent teams without playing Gonzaga. The Utah State game is an example. Top 50-75-ish team but one you stand a good chance of beating. Even more games like Western Illinois, who is 10-6 and in the 200's in Pomeroy. You at least have to play a bit to beat them. I would argue that young, inexperienced guys don't get any better by playing so many bad teams. They don't to do anything correctly, just show up and let their superior talent win the game.

It appears the schedule this year was set up to make sure Iowa had an overall winning record and could get into the NIT. But just my opinion.

 

[TheTruthTheWholeTruth]

I am not going to claim that Iowa has played a tough schedule this year and agree with you that every rating has its flaws. Cherry picking the rating that supports your view while ignoring other ratings does not make your statement right though.

Especially when said rating was taken out back and put out of its misery. It’s almost like the OP had an agenda or something.

 

[CO_hawk]

Agree with both sides. Schedule sucked and Fran did say the schedule will suck.

We all knew the weaknesses in this team before the season. Chill out.

 

[TheTruthTheWholeTruth]

Iowa is currently #27 in the only ratings that matter

Q1 0-4
Q2 2-0
Q3 1-0
Q4 8-0

Tonight is an opportunity for a desperately needed Q1 win as is the game against the Gophers. Win the next two and I think the momentum carries Iowa to a 4 game winning streak before Purdue heads to Carver.

 

[Iafootballfan]

Iowa is currently #27 in the only ratings that matter

Q1 0-4
Q2 2-0
Q3 1-0
Q4 8-0

Tonight is an opportunity for a desperately needed Q1 win as is the game against the Gophers. Win the next two and I think the momentum carries Iowa to a 4 game winning streak before Purdue heads to Carver.

Drake was "last 4 in" as an 11 seed last year with 1 Q1 win and 6 Q2's, just for reference of a bare minimum requirement.

 

[TheTruthTheWholeTruth]

Drake was "last 4 in" as an 11 seed last year with 1 Q1 win and 6 Q2's, just for reference of a bare minimum requirement.

Right. I think they give a little more latitude to the non power schools and Q1 wins. Mich St got in with 5 last year, Maryland with 4. Iowa’s NCOS is terrible but 4-6 Q1 wins should get them in. Anything less than that then, honestly, they really aren’t deserving of a spot.

 

[QChawks]

here are the .net rankings for comparison

Wins
Longwood 162
UMKC 219
NCC 307
Alabama St 309
W Michigan 334
Portland St 331
Virginia 82 (might go up a bit just beat VA tech)
Utah St 62
SE Louisiana 261
W Illinois 177
Maryland 107

Loses
Purdue 8
Illinois 11
Iowa St 25
Wisconsin 22

Iowa is 27th, really doesn't change much. Utah St is still our best win.

 

[jonesy5960]

here are the .net rankings for comparison

Wins
Longwood 162
UMKC 219
NCC 307
Alabama St 309
W Michigan 334
Portland St 331
Virginia 82 (might go up a bit just beat VA tech)
Utah St 62
SE Louisiana 261
W Illinois 177
Maryland 107

Loses
Purdue 8
Illinois 11
Iowa St 25
Wisconsin 22

Iowa is 27th, really doesn't change much. Utah St is still our best win.

Utah State is still their best win but in the last math class I took 27th was significantly higher than 76th. Must be that new math I fail to grasp.

 

[Fighter of the Nightman]

The Committee uses NET, so aren’t these other rankings sort of just for fun…?

 

[SDHawkDoc]

The path to getting a tourney bid looks difficult, but not impossible.

The non-con schedule offered little outside of an unexpectedly improved 'clone team. A better schedule with a potential bigger win(s) would have given them a bit more leeway when it comes to conference performance, but it would still come back to league wins. At this point anything under .500 won't cut it.

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

These next 2 for Iowa are huge

 

[BurgHawk87]

Which is a joke. Iowa is nowhere near the 27th best team. Every rating has its flaws.

All I’m doing is highlighting that we’ve beaten no one yet and lost to every team with a pulse.

So you want a tougher schedule that would equate to even more losses? I don't quite understand your first post and this one taken together.

 

[TheTruthTheWholeTruth]

I’m here for the ratio.

 

[hawkjt]

We knew that this was a rebuilding year coming in so getting to bubble status was the realistic goal.
If we win these two we are on track.

 

[SDHawkDoc]

We knew that this was a rebuilding year coming in so getting to bubble status was the realistic goal.
If we win these two we are on track

I had them just missing the tourney this year; that's still where I'm at. But they do have a pathway to get there. Holding serve at home against indy will be pretty important in getting to those 10 league wins.

 

[Hawkstrat]

So you want a tougher schedule that would equate to even more losses? I don't quite understand your first post and this one taken together.

The argument should be more 150-215 type teams and fewer 275+ teams.

Still reliable wins, but better overall.

 

[BurgHawk87]

The argument should be more 150-215 type teams and fewer 275+ teams.

Still reliable wins, but better overall.

That I agree with. Hopefully no one thinks we should schedule 5 non conference top 25 teams and sink our year before it even begins.

 

[ObeseMuffins]

We knew that this was a rebuilding year coming in so getting to bubble status was the realistic goal.
If we win these two we are on track.

With the transfer portal and having a legit top 10 pick on your team, this being a "rebuilding" year isn't acceptable (Year 12).

 

[Ronman]

There are a lot of major teams with wins just like the ones we have on their resume this time of year. It certainly didn't help our cause to start out with 3 of our first four conference games against the top four teams in the league.

 

[SDHawkDoc]

With the transfer portal and having a legit top 10 pick on your team, this being a "rebuilding" year isn't acceptable (Year 12).

Agree to the extent that the idea of rebuilding currently is not the same as it was even a few years ago. isu is a prime example of how it's possible to have near complete roster turnover and go from the dregs to competitive for a league title in one season.

Some fans can lament all they want, but this is the current reality. A coach has to be able to make multiple roster moves from a variety of options in a very short time. If he fails to do that then the vast majority of competent ADs will hold them accountable.

 

[hawkjt]

With the transfer portal and having a legit top 10 pick on your team, this being a "rebuilding" year isn't acceptable (Year 12).

So you are saying that Iowa now has to make the tourney every year at this point in Frans tenure?
I do think it has to the goal to make it or at least contend for it but as a minimum requirement?
I agree that it needs to happen 4 of 5 yrs tho.

 

[ObeseMuffins]

So you are saying that Iowa now has to make the tourney every year at this point in Frans tenure?
I do think it has to the goal to make it or at least contend for it but as a minimum requirement?
I agree that it needs to happen 4 of 5 yrs tho.

Yes, definitely. There's no reason we can't compete with Wisconsin. Even in a down year, they're making the tourney. Gone are the days, we have to patiently wait 3 years for the coach to "bring in their players and implement their system/change cultures."

 

[TheTruthTheWholeTruth]

Yes, definitely. There's no reason we can't compete with Wisconsin. Even in a down year, they're making the tourney. Gone are the days, we have to patiently wait 3 years for the coach to "bring in their players and implement their system/change cultures."

Wisconsin missed the tourney in 2018.

 

[ObeseMuffins]

Wisconsin missed the tourney in 2018.

touché

 

[forhawks1980]

What does that even mean? If you’re trying to bad mouth Fran, JBO, and Connor for limiting playing time for other guys needing experience it makes zero sense. The only guys not getting real PT/experience are the young post players ….and that has NO relationship to JBO or Connor.

It means that there is no other BIG team that those two ever find playing time for. kris m at 16 mins/game. Is ridiculous. Perkins or ulus at the 2 makes more sense