Yes. It would not be hearsay if it was uttered by the Defendant/Trump.
You also have to ask yourself why a gold star parent would make up such a claim.
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Yes. It would not be hearsay if it was uttered by the Defendant/Trump.
You also have to ask yourself why a gold star parent would make up such a claim.
Yet no one else heard this, just like the Trump preferred Hitler generals b.s.
First off, you don't know that. Second, why would a gold star parent make up such a story? We know why Trump lies.
Hey dumbass...you're going to be on welfare again before these next four years are over.
Then again, President Musk might cancel the welfare that kept you out of that shelter?
I bet you can move into your boyfriend, Gobblin's, basement.
No, asshole, the right went nuts when your marxist in chief saluted his Marine honor guard with a ****ing coffee cup in his hand. Kinda like your POS biden sleeping/watching his watch at the funerals of Marines.
Has anyone else come forward confirming what Kelley said? Second, maybe because Trump said he was a lousy chief of staff? Why would Trump lie about this?
At least they were US Marines and not a North Korean general.No, asshole, the right went nuts when your marxist in chief saluted his Marine honor guard with a ****ing coffee cup in his hand. Kinda like your POS biden sleeping/watching his watch at the funerals of Marines.
You're so phucking crazy it's unbelievable....At least they were US Marines and not a North Korean general.
Are you denying that this happened? Or is this another of your ways to say "Uncle"?
Because I replied to your picture with a relatable picture of Trump doing something similar?
Following the prescribed protocol for the situation instead of acting like a disrespectful, lazy hood on a street corner?
You don't see why a civilian leader of the free world saluting a foreign general of an adversarial nation is wrong? You really didn't serve a day in the military, did you?
You really want to equate that to the retard in chief saluting Marines with a coffee cup is his hand because he's a lazy, POS marxist? 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Well, yeah. It shows that they're both civilians that did something stupid in a moment that they wish they could take back. The fact that I think it makes them look silly, and you think it only makes Obama look like a "lazy, POS Marxist," shows that you have a serious freaking problem.
contemporaneous notes from kelly...
I'd be willing to bet kelly has contemporaneous notes and those are admissible. Most likely his testimony would too.
To try to parallel the two events isn't even grasping at straws, it's more like you pulling the tampon string on the one in your ass because tim walz told you you needed one!
Tell me why it's okay, in your eyes, for Trump to salute a North Korean general. Since you spent so much time in the military, after all.
Tell me how you know the general didn't salute him already and he's returning the salute...not that it matters, because this act has nothing to do with the other. oboma might as well have been caught pissing on the Flag, which he's probably done before.
Does the President salute a foreign general? Does any civilian salute military personnel? You've absolutely outed yourself, you didn't spend a day in the military. Stolen valor bitch.
An American President can do whatever the phuck he feels like doing--you should warm up to that concept!! Nevertheless, if a foreign general salutes the POTUS, it is appropriate for him to return the salute. Again, tell me how you know that's not what happened???????????????????????????
can't, he a mentally ill sick prick with falling poll numbers.
Mind of I ask you some questions in my field of expertise? SMH.
You're an jackwagon. I had you on ignore. Seems a 're-think' may be in order.
All the Trump team would have to do, it seems to me, is make the case that Kelly had a beef with trump to raise that statement into question especially without corroboration.
How does one prove the notes were contemporaneous?
In my profession, if facts are key, and one is trying to establish contemporaneous notes, we are instructed to write a narrative, print it, and then mail it to myself certified mail and then don't open it. Maybe newer electronic ways are sufficient but...
I have had to do this once...No idea where that is now though, now that i think about it....
"Actually, no regulation specifies that the president should salute (or return the salute of) military personnel. In fact, U.S. Army regulations, for example, state that neither civilians nor those wearing civilian attire (both of which describe the U.S. president) are required to render salutes. The regulation states:
"The President of the United States, as the commander in chief, will be saluted by Army personnel in uniform."
You should stop while you are behind. You're getting your arse handed to you. You don't salute anyone from North Korea. That's common sense. Something MAGAs lack.
Well earlier you were talking about a career soldier (Kelly) being believable, not talking about the Goldstar parent. Then you shifted gears and started talking about the Goldstar parent. Would the statement that Kelly heard from the Goldstar anonymous source parent, but not Kelly himself, be legally admissible?
Do we have the name of the parent or statements OTR that he said this? Or in fact, ws this simply, as reported, be a case of _______ where Kelly is reporting what he heard someone say they heard? Does that sound familiar to you? What's that called?
I do enjoy these forays into legal theory, though not a lawyer.
Here is a link to Snopes discussing the above.
Trump Said 'Only Suckers Went to Vietnam'?
The 2024 Republican presidential candidate also allegedly said, “Vietnam would have been a waste of time for me.”
www.snopes.com
Well earlier you were talking about a career soldier (Kelly) being believable, not talking about the Goldstar parent. Then you shifted gears and started talking about the Goldstar parent. Would not the statement that Kelly heard from the Goldstar anonymous source parent, but not Kelly himself, be legally admissible?
Do we have the name of the parent or statements OTR that he said this? Or in fact, ws this simply, as reported, be a case of _______ where Kelly is reporting what he heard someone say they heard? Does that sound familiar to you? What's that called?
I do enjoy these forays into legal theory, though not a lawyer.
Here is a link to Snopes discussing the above.
Trump Said 'Only Suckers Went to Vietnam'?
The 2024 Republican presidential candidate also allegedly said, “Vietnam would have been a waste of time for me.”
Trump's statements are not hearsay. Period.
Pretty sure I've always referred to Kelley as a gold star parent.
Again, why would he make it up? I get Trump lies about his infidelity, grifting, and denying undeniable facts. There is motive for him to lie. None for Kelley
"Gen. John Kelly, who was Trump's chief of staff when the alleged comments were made, confirmed that Trump did call American troops "losers" and "suckers." However, it was unclear whether he witnessed the comments firsthand or heard about them from someone else, or from news reports."
Why would he make it up? Ok well, why would a bunch of intelligence officials make up a story? I dont know whether he said it or not but a claim so inflammatory about a sitting or ex-president seems to me to require far more than one person telling the story before it is floated in the media as truth. Or at least that used to be the standard until the standard was getting Trump.
Make sense?
C'mon, you MAGAs believe everything Trump says at face value, yet you need freaking video evidence, time stamped, signed by an albino, and Notarized by Jesus Christ Himself before you'll believe anything negative about Trump. He has a history of saying negative things about the military, then denying them. Why do you refuse to believe a reliable source over a serial liar?
