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Hillary destroying GOP field

Everyone was against gay marriage.

That's like saying that Abraham Lincoln was a racist because he didn't free the slaves on his first day in office.

People are allowed to evolve their positions over time.
Not everyone was against gay marriage. Not that everyone is for it either. It's just that the government should not have a say in it. But, since you brought up Lincoln, it turns out that is the time when the government started demanding marriage licenses. This was one way of keeping the races from inter-marrying. It also raised revenue. Marriage is a religious sacrament. No one asked me for a baptism license when my children were christened.
 
It's my belief she will be the next POTUS. I believe DanL's proposed 3rd party is the only one who could defeat her. IMHO, as much as 60% of the country is not on the extreme right or left, and would love a reason to vote for someone who's neither Democrat nor Republican, and would simply like to see the voice of reason rule the day.

I don't think the country's ready for the voice of reason yet. We need to head further into the rabbit hole before we figure it out a little.
I went to see Rand Paul in Cedar Rapids today, and I must admit I was pretty impressed. He didn't say a single word about conservative social issues like abortion or gay marriage - he talked mostly about protecting the entire Bill of Rights, not just the Second Amendment. That and his flat tax plan. He came off as fiscally conservative and agnostic on social issues.

One interesting thing was that he hardly took any potshots at fellow Republican candidates, but spent several minutes railing on Clinton. I took that to mean either that he's very confident he will will the nomination, or he's angling for a VP slot. I can't see either of those happening, though.
 
Is Sidney Blumenthal's life in danger? Yes!!! Hillary will kill him.....she has a history.
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And then she'll laugh about it like she did after Kaddafi was taken out.

 
Not everyone was against gay marriage. Not that everyone is for it either. It's just that the government should not have a say in it. But, since you brought up Lincoln, it turns out that is the time when the government started demanding marriage licenses. This was one way of keeping the races from inter-marrying. It also raised revenue. Marriage is a religious sacrament. No one asked me for a baptism license when my children were christened.
And at the time, polygamy was legal and practiced; whether same-sex marriage was legal or not is a moot point, because nobody seriously suggested it.
 
The income gap and decreasing need of workers are real problems. I don't know of any rReal answers but if there are none people will vote for the party promising them other people's money.

Crazy greed by the super rich is no more appealing than ultra liberals with their endless social programs.

If republicans are in charge we get more military which we don't need.
 
There are solutions. You just don't like any of them.

Don't be shy. Share with us.

Closing the border to stop the flood of workers from Mexico would be one of my ideas. Tax on imports and give that money directly to middle class in direct payments would be another. Give the poor an incentive to work towards middle class.

I have never voted for a democrat for congress or president.
 
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Man the people in this country are mindless, idiot sheep. Sad. She will undoubtedly be the next president. This country doesn't really choose presidents anymore, they just do what they are told.
I gotta agree, hansen. The fact that those idiot losers who have announced as Republican candidates are getting votes in the polls tells you that the people are morons. At least the ones who lean Republican.
 
Don't be shy. Share with us.

Closing the border to stop the flood of workers from Mexico would be one of my ideas. Tax on imports and give that money directly to middle class in direct payments would be another. Give the poor an incentive to work towards middle class.

I have never voted for a democrat for congress or president.

I don't disagree with most of those but illegal immigration isn't what is keeping wages down. The systematic destruction of unions and off-shoring is what is keeping wages down. I don't like just giving money to the middle class (how would that work anyway?). I like redistributing the wealth through providing more jobs and paying more for those jobs. Raising minimum wages is a way to do this (increasing union participation will do this as well, but too many people have been brainwashed into thinking unions are the devil), but there also needs to be incentives for keeping jobs here in America. Raise taxes on companies that off-shore jobs and reduce taxes for companies that keep jobs here at home (I'm pretty sure that probably violates about 10 trade treaties but those treaties haven't really been good for American workers anyway).

Also, we need to keep the talent we train at home. Right now, other countries are out-competing us with people who were trained at American colleges and universities. When we train these people, we need to keep them here. I realize this won't sit well with the anti-immigrant crowd but part of the problem is America isn't producing enough engineers and other skilled technicians anymore. The cause of that is another issue but all we are doing right now is being a farm team for China and other countries.
 
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Don't be shy. Share with us.

Closing the border to stop the flood of workers from Mexico would be one of my ideas. Tax on imports and give that money directly to middle class in direct payments would be another. Give the poor an incentive to work towards middle class.

I have never voted for a democrat for congress or president.
I'd wager your more likely to make progress on the three planks you list here with a D than an R. Rs like cheap labor and imports.
 
I don't disagree with most of those but illegal immigration isn't what is keeping wages down. The systematic destruction of unions and off-shoring is what is keeping wages down. I don't like just giving money to the middle class (how would that work anyway?). I like redistributing the wealth through providing more jobs and paying more for those jobs. Raising minimum wages is a way to do this (increasing union participation will do this as well, but too many people have been brainwashed into thinking unions are the devil), but there also needs to be incentives for keeping jobs here in America. Raise taxes on companies that off-shore jobs and reduce taxes for companies that keep jobs here at home (I'm pretty sure that probably violates about 10 trade treaties but those treaties haven't really been good for American workers anyway).

Also, we need to keep the talent we train at home. Right now, other countries are out-competing us with people who were trained at American colleges and universities. When we train these people, we need to keep them here. I realize this won't sit well with the anti-immigrant crowd but part of the problem is America isn't producing enough engineers and other skilled technicians anymore. The cause of that is another issue but all we are doing right now is being a farm team for China and other countries.
Just out of curiosity, what do you think destroyed the private-sector unions?
 
Just out of curiosity, what do you think destroyed the private-sector unions?

Companies (and governments) either smashed them, passed anti-union legislation, or shipped jobs to non-union locations where pay and costs like health care and pensions were cheaper. I'm not saying there wasn't a profit motive for doing this, I'm just saying that it has had a severely detrimental affect on American workers and on America as a whole.
 
Hillary Clinton is just a horrible horrible candidate and person. This woman has absolutely no core convictions and will say whatever she has to say to win. Now, although I don't agree with Bernie Sanders on much of anything, at least he's authentic and I can respect that.
 
Companies (and governments) either smashed them, passed anti-union legislation, or shipped jobs to non-union locations where pay and costs like health care and pensions were cheaper. I'm not saying there wasn't a profit motive for doing this, I'm just saying that it has had a severely detrimental affect on American workers and on America as a whole.
So what you're saying is that they priced themselves out of the job market, in addition to no longer offering a service that most workers find attractive. I would agree with that.
 
So what you're saying is that they priced themselves out of the job market, in addition to no longer offering a service that most workers find attractive. I would agree with that.

You can spin it however you want but the bottom line is it has harmed Americans and contributed to destroying the middle class. I know you are probably happy about that I'm not.
 
Hillary Clinton is just a horrible horrible candidate and person. This woman has absolutely no core convictions and will say whatever she has to say to win. Now, although I don't agree with Bernie Sanders on much of anything, at least he's authentic and I can respect that.

Even if what you say is true, she's still better than anybody the Republicans are putting up.
 
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