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Hillary Lied to Benghazi Victim's Parent

Aside from the lie, I don't get the alleged crime that the video maker could be charged with anyhow. Does anyone else?
 
Aside from the lie, I don't get the alleged crime that the video maker could be charged with anyhow. Does anyone else?

I don't know.

Inciting a riot in Libya?

Democrats can be creative with their police state.
 
I'm no Clinton backer, but she e-mailed Chlesea with a very vague description of what happened, then when the bodies returned home she had a more elaborate version in mind (after faulty intelligence she received), and then learning more, revised her understanding of events. Honestly, how is this not plausibly an honest mistake? I know some people are desperate to believe their narrative, and it's no surprise this comes from Fox News (a network with virtually zero credibility amongst serious and ethical journalists). Help this simpleton connect the dots.
 
I'm no Clinton backer, but she e-mailed Chlesea with a very vague description of what happened, then when the bodies returned home she had a more elaborate version in mind (after faulty intelligence she received), and then learning more, revised her understanding of events. Honestly, how is this not plausibly an honest mistake? I know some people are desperate to believe their narrative, and it's no surprise this comes from Fox News (a network with virtually zero credibility amongst serious and ethical journalists). Help this simpleton connect the dots.

Just more sad people with CDS grasping at straws in desperation.
 
Hillary continues to lie; simpletons continue to defend her. Nothing to see here.
 
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Well, she has a long way to go to catch up with gwb. He lied to the entire country including the thousands of military people who died during the Iraq invasion.

If you like your health plan, you can keep it, if you like your doctor, you can keep him or her...........politicians lie.....go figure
 
I'm no Clinton backer, but she e-mailed Chlesea with a very vague description of what happened, then when the bodies returned home she had a more elaborate version in mind (after faulty intelligence she received), and then learning more, revised her understanding of events. Honestly, how is this not plausibly an honest mistake? I know some people are desperate to believe their narrative, and it's no surprise this comes from Fox News (a network with virtually zero credibility amongst serious and ethical journalists). Help this simpleton connect the dots.

That word doesn't exist to a politician.
 
I'm no Clinton backer, but she e-mailed Chlesea with a very vague description of what happened, then when the bodies returned home she had a more elaborate version in mind (after faulty intelligence she received), and then learning more, revised her understanding of events. Honestly, how is this not plausibly an honest mistake? I know some people are desperate to believe their narrative, and it's no surprise this comes from Fox News (a network with virtually zero credibility amongst serious and ethical journalists). Help this simpleton connect the dots.

Entirely possible, no doubt. However, we're talking about politicians here. How is it not just as plausible that they lied?
 
I'm no Clinton backer, but she e-mailed Chlesea with a very vague description of what happened, then when the bodies returned home she had a more elaborate version in mind (after faulty intelligence she received), and then learning more, revised her understanding of events. Honestly, how is this not plausibly an honest mistake? I know some people are desperate to believe their narrative, and it's no surprise this comes from Fox News (a network with virtually zero credibility amongst serious and ethical journalists). Help this simpleton connect the dots.
But her "vague description" of what happened was a lot closer to the truth than what she said for weeks after the attack. I'm not buying the "faulty intelligence" claim.
The simple truth of the matter is she lied about the nature of the attack to help President Obama win reelection. That's it.
 
I'm no Clinton backer, but she e-mailed Chlesea with a very vague description of what happened, then when the bodies returned home she had a more elaborate version in mind (after faulty intelligence she received), and then learning more, revised her understanding of events. Honestly, how is this not plausibly an honest mistake? I know some people are desperate to believe their narrative, and it's no surprise this comes from Fox News (a network with virtually zero credibility amongst serious and ethical journalists). Help this simpleton connect the dots.
She knew. Hell, I'm not privy to any classified intelligence and have zero inside information, but I knew on 9/12 that it was more than just a spontaneous demonstration against a YouTube video.

We knew militants were operating in that area. They had fired an RPG at a British diplomatic convoy a few weeks earlier. They had attacked the International Red Cross office nearby. They had bombed the perimeter wall of the very same consulate that was attacked on 9/11. The Libyan government - the very same one we helped to install after ousting Ghaddafi - told us it was a coordinated terrorist attack. The quote I recall hearing the very next day was along the lines of "you don't see Kalashnikovs and RPGs at spontaneous demonstrations."

Hillary knew. The State Department knew. The White House knew. But there was a critical election just a few weeks away and one of the themes of the campaign was that al-Qaeda was on the run. The White House simply couldn't have the general public thinking al-Qaeda was still capable of attacking us, so the YouTube video became a convenient scapegoat.

It was not what I would consider a scandal and it certainly didn't merit 21 hearings or whatever the number is now. But it was piss-poor leadership. And now Republicans have beaten this dead horse way too long.
 
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I don't know.

Inciting a riot in Libya?

Democrats can be creative with their police state.

I highly doubt that video (I never saw it) could rise to the level of incitement, legally.

The legal concept of a crime of incitement is the active urging of another to commit a crime. A video offensive to Muslims would not be "inciting" them to commit a crime. in the sense that it would not be urging them to commit a crime, even if it caused them to commit a crime.

Hillary was a bad lawyer here.
 
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But her "vague description" of what happened was a lot closer to the truth than what she said for weeks after the attack. I'm not buying the "faulty intelligence" claim.
The simple truth of the matter is she lied about the nature of the attack to help President Obama win reelection. That's it.

Um, no. That's simply a bizarre theory made up by Republicans desperately searching for anything they could use against Hillary Clinton with no basis in fact, and has no import to any rational American.
 
Um, no. That's simply a bizarre theory made up by Republicans desperately searching for anything they could use against Hillary Clinton with no basis in fact, and has no import to any rational American.
So it's your assertion that Hillary honestly thought this attack was a spontaneous response to the YouTube video? You believe she honestly didn't realize that a full-scale assault on the U.S. Consulate lasting several hours, followed by a second full-scale assault a mile and a half away at the safe house, was the work of ornery demonstrators? You're steadfast in your conviction that she honestly didn't know the attacks were orchestrated by the same militants who had carried out at least three other significant attacks in previous weeks?

Frankly I think that level of abject incompetence is even worse than knowing what really happened and then lying about it for the sake of political expediency.
 
Um, no. That's simply a bizarre theory made up by Republicans desperately searching for anything they could use against Hillary Clinton with no basis in fact, and has no import to any rational American.

Well, she told her own daughter in an email the night of the attacks that it was a terror attack by "an AQ like group". She knew it had nothing to do with the video, but she went so far as to tell a victim's parent, days later, that it was the video....because that was still the politically driven "line".

She's slime.
 
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I'm no Clinton backer, but she e-mailed Chlesea with a very vague description of what happened, then when the bodies returned home she had a more elaborate version in mind (after faulty intelligence she received), and then learning more, revised her understanding of events. Honestly, how is this not plausibly an honest mistake? I know some people are desperate to believe their narrative, and it's no surprise this comes from Fox News (a network with virtually zero credibility amongst serious and ethical journalists). Help this simpleton connect the dots.

Your post would indicate that they just weren't sure about what happened and they picked one of 2 things and put that out there. Would it not have been smarter to wait then until you had all the facts before blaming a video??

They kept hammering it and hammering it sending Rice out and saying THIS is what happened, not doubt.

I think common sense kicks in on this one and it is pretty easy to see that the video worked a lot better for BO and his re-election bid so that is what they put out there.

I think the mistake they made was calling it a video when they didn't know what it was.
 
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Aside from the lie, I don't get the alleged crime that the video maker could be charged with anyhow. Does anyone else?

I believe he was charged with using an alias in violation of his probation.

Like anyone making an anti-Islam video is going to use his real name in the credits.
 
So it's your assertion that Hillary honestly thought this attack was a spontaneous response to the YouTube video? You believe she honestly didn't realize that a full-scale assault on the U.S. Consulate lasting several hours, followed by a second full-scale assault a mile and a half away at the safe house, was the work of ornery demonstrators? You're steadfast in your conviction that she honestly didn't know the attacks were orchestrated by the same militants who had carried out at least three other significant attacks in previous weeks?

Frankly I think that level of abject incompetence is even worse than knowing what really happened and then lying about it for the sake of political expediency.

You believe there's some huge cover up and a big conspiracy? How is it so easy for you to see this giant conspiracy with layers and layers of lies, but it's so difficult to believe that the administration just had poor talking points after the attack?
 
That word doesn't exist to a politician.
Hillary takes it to an entirely different level. She is a pathological liar that should be studied by science. I wouldn't trust her to work at McDonald's much less actually be in charge of anything important.
 
Hillary takes it to an entirely different level. She is a pathological liar that should be studied by science. I wouldn't trust her to work at McDonald's much less actually be in charge of anything important.

Based on what you've heard on Fox News, I assume? Of course she's full of BS, she's a goddam politician. But she's no dirtier than any, and probably more honest than most. This investigation is nothing more than a witch hunt.

I don't want Hillary as president. Hell, there's not a single candidate out there today that I'd caucus for. But to believe that she's a pathological liar is just letting yourself be spoon fed.
 
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You believe there's some huge cover up and a big conspiracy? How is it so easy for you to see this giant conspiracy with layers and layers of lies, but it's so difficult to believe that the administration just had poor talking points after the attack?
Blaming the attacks on a YouTube video hardly constitutes a "huge cover up" or "giant conspiracy". It's a cover-your-ass lie. Nothing more, nothing less.

But if she truly didn't know it was a planned attack by militants and actually thought it was just random demonstrators expressing their anger over some obscure movie trailer then she has bigger problems than being a liar.
 
Blaming the attacks on a YouTube video hardly constitutes a "huge cover up" or "giant conspiracy". It's a cover-your-ass lie. Nothing more, nothing less.

But if she truly didn't know it was a planned attack by militants and actually thought it was just random demonstrators expressing their anger over some obscure movie trailer then she has bigger problems than being a liar.

Maybe... Maybe she wanted those men to die! Maybe they knew something, something about her past! So, she sat down with Obama (who owed her a favor because she'd covered up his Kenyan citizenship, see?) and they came up with a plan. No, a scheme. Get some Libyans to attack the embassy, clean up those loose ends. Now here's the rub! They simultaneously get some clueless schlub to release a video, and blame it on him! But it unravels when true patriotic Americans see through her lies and realize that she's LIZARD PEOPLE!!!

Be honest, if you heard it from Rush Limbaugh you'd believe it, right? Am I right? C'mon, amirite???
 
I'm not sure why the right is desperate to keep this story going? If you guys would have just stopped at 7 investigations and 20 hearings, you would have gotten no fallout from this. But no, you guys had to get greedy and say, "Let's roll the dice on number 8." And now, Hillary is looking like a champ, raising all kinds of money off this, and the Republicans are looking like petulant children. If the GOP was smart, they would just cut their losses and let this story die.

As for this thread, complaining about the origins of why these attack happened isn't much, especially when the proof comes from a diary of someone who wasn't even there.
 
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Maybe... Maybe she wanted those men to die! Maybe they knew something, something about her past! So, she sat down with Obama (who owed her a favor because she'd covered up his Kenyan citizenship, see?) and they came up with a plan. No, a scheme. Get some Libyans to attack the embassy, clean up those loose ends. Now here's the rub! They simultaneously get some clueless schlub to release a video, and blame it on him! But it unravels when true patriotic Americans see through her lies and realize that she's LIZARD PEOPLE!!!

Be honest, if you heard it from Rush Limbaugh you'd believe it, right? Am I right? C'mon, amirite???
Let me know if you're ever ready to have a grownup discussion.
 
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Hillary Clinton is on par with Brian Williams

From where she got her name to being shot at getting out of plane. She makes it up as she goes!
 
This is pure Brian Williams:


Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton said on Tuesday she made a mistake when she claimed she had come under sniper fire during a trip to Bosnia in 1996 while she was first lady.

In a speech in Washington and in several interviews last week Clinton described how she and her daughter, Chelsea, ran for cover under hostile fire shortly after her plane landed in Tuzla, Bosnia.

Several news outlets disputed the claim and a video of the trip, showed Clinton walking from the plane, accompanied by her daughter. They were greeted by a young girl in a small ceremony on the tarmac and there was no sign of tension or any danger.
 
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