Holy cow!!! Is Wisconsin even younger than we are?!!!

[Hawkman34]

I just looked at yesterday's Depth Chart for the Hawks and Badgers...and after yesterday's outcome I was thinking..."Well as bad as it was (and it was ALL TIME epic bad!), at least I thought "Well, we are young and will learn from this and get better."

UGH!!! We lose 8 starters.....4 on offense and 4 on defense (maybe nine if Jackson goes pro). Freaking Wisconsin appears to be even younger than we are!!! The only lose 2 starter on offense, and return their ENTIRE MASSIVE offensive line!!! This was a shock to me, as I was thinking they lost quite a bit more than we did.

Am I over reacting in my worry??

GO HAWKS!!!

 

[NorthDSMHawk]

You must have read that wrong. All of their guys were 5th year seniors and have not had a freshman or sophomore take a snap all year. Iowa is the only team that has underclasman playing. Nice try though.

Our QB is a sophomore for crying out loud!

 

[buckymel]

Dunno if Wisconsin will be younger than Iowa next year, but you are right in that Wisconsin is a young team. Especially on offense, only Fum/Peavy/Ramesh are seniors. WR's are all freshmen and sophomores. Line is young too, with a couple juniors, and the rest freshmen and sophomores. On defense, we'll lose a handful from the 2-deeps.

 

[Hawkman34]

You must have read that wrong. All of their guys were 5th year seniors and have not had a freshman or sophomore take a snap all year. Iowa is the only team that has underclasman playing. Nice try though.

Our QB is a sophomore for crying out loud!

And what year is their QB???

 

[HawkLogic]

You must have read that wrong. All of their guys were 5th year seniors and have not had a freshman or sophomore take a snap all year. Iowa is the only team that has underclasman playing. Nice try though.

Our QB is a sophomore for crying out loud!

If you are going to correct someone, you should make sure you know what you are talking about.

https://247sports.com/college/wisco...d-depth-chart-for-game-against-Iowa-110054837

Wisconsin has a senior TE and senior FB. The OL is RS Freshmen to Jr.

Iowa is using two Freshmen Tackles because KF let the cupboard become bare at two critical positions. We lost two tackles from last year--- do you remember the pass protection last year--hardly anything to brag about.

 

[buckymel]

And what year is their QB???

Luckily for you non-Wisconsin fans, the INT machine that is Hornibrook is only a RS-sophomore.
Hopefully next year freshman Coan beats him out for the starting job.

 

[ScoutRefugee]

Paging @LegendKF

 

[buckymel]

If you are going to correct someone, you should make sure you know what you are talking about.

https://247sports.com/college/wisco...d-depth-chart-for-game-against-Iowa-110054837

Wisconsin has a senior TE and senior FB. The OL is RS Freshmen to Jr.

Iowa is using two Freshmen Tackles because KF let the cupboard become bare at two critical positions. We lost two tackles from last year--- do you remember the pass protection last year--hardly anything to brag about.

I'm gonna guess your sarcasm meter is off.

 

[ScoutRefugee]

Don't forget that Wisconsin is on their second HC in what? 4 years?
LMFAO! Wisconsin crushes the KF apologist's excuses, all by themselves.
1) NOT a blue blood.
2) No beaches/nice weather to sell in recruiting
3) no massive state population
4) no staff continuity (3 different HCs in last 5 or 6 years.
5) their HC actually makes LESS than ours.

 

[dfelg11404]

Don't forget that Wisconsin is on their second HC in what? 4 years?
LMFAO! Wisconsin crushes the KF apologist's excuses, all by themselves.
1) NOT a blue blood.
2) No beaches/nice weather to sell in recruiting
3) no massive state population
4) no staff continuity (3 different HCs in last 5 or 6 years.
5) their HC actually makes LESS than ours.

last 7 years before this season

Wisconsin
3 head coaches in the last 7 years.
70-22 during that time.
5 10+ win seasons.
5 big ten champ game appearances.
4 top 15 poll finishes.
3-4 in bowls.

iowa?
one head coach.
51-36 (that includes the cakewalk schedule 12-2 year)
1 10+ win season (dat schedule tho)
1 big ten champ game appearance.
1 top 15 poll finish.
1-5 in bowls, with 1 season not even reaching a bowl

but , OMG FERENTZ IS THE GOAT IOWA CAN EVER GET. STOP SAYInG BAD THINGS ABOUT MY TEAM YOU ARE HURTING MY FEELINGS. kIRK LEAD US TO 2 ORANGE BOWLS HES THE BEST
(not like those where 8 and 15 seasons ago or anything) you'd think we won the orange bowl twice in the last 3 years the way this board worships Kirk

 

[LeftyLarry]

Everyone on the OL returns, unless some leave early.
WRs are all first and second year players this year, Peavy hasn't played and neither has Rushing both gone.
All the RBs return except the grad student Ibrahim who is a non factor.
TE, only Fumagali graduates.
DL Alec James, Sheehy and Obasih graduate , If Sagapolu stays, we have enough to replace them, especially with Loudermilk who is a stud.
Jacobs and Dooley leave but we're loaded behind them, Van Ginkel probably gets one of those spots.
Cichy graduates unless he applies for another year but doubt they want him too, Connolly and the others behind him are the guys going forward.
Jamerson the safety and Ferguson the walk on graduate and so does Tindal the corner.
We further expect the other corner Nick Nelson to leave early.
Defense will be well above average but I doubt it will be as good as this season.
Offense should be much better.

 

[NorthDSMHawk]

And what year is their QB???

If you are going to correct someone, you should make sure you know what you are talking about.

https://247sports.com/college/wisco...d-depth-chart-for-game-against-Iowa-110054837

Wisconsin has a senior TE and senior FB. The OL is RS Freshmen to Jr.

Iowa is using two Freshmen Tackles because KF let the cupboard become bare at two critical positions. We lost two tackles from last year--- do you remember the pass protection last year--hardly anything to brag about.

If you guys couldn’t find the sarcasm there you should practice interneting more.

 

[Freyvet]

last 7 years before this season

Wisconsin
3 head coaches in the last 7 years.
70-22 during that time.
5 10+ win seasons.
5 big ten champ game appearances.
4 top 15 poll finishes.
3-4 in bowls.

iowa?
one head coach.
51-36 (that includes the cakewalk schedule 12-2 year)
1 10+ win season (dat schedule tho)
1 big ten champ game appearance.
1 top 15 poll finish.
1-5 in bowls, with 1 season not even reaching a bowl

but , OMG FERENTZ IS THE GOAT IOWA CAN EVER GET. STOP SAYInG BAD THINGS ABOUT MY TEAM YOU ARE HURTING MY FEELINGS. kIRK LEAD US TO 2 ORANGE BOWLS HES THE BEST
(not like those where 8 and 15 seasons ago or anything) you'd think we won the orange bowl twice in the last 3 years the way this board worships Kirk

These are the facts. Iowa population is 3.1 million, Wi population is 5.7 million. Iowa has another P5 school (isu) taking prospects from state as well. WI has no other power 5 in the state. Both rely heavily on in-state recruiting. WI has tremendous advantage in this area. This is the difference. And still Kirk does have 5 Top 10 finishes - pretty darn good for our program!!

 

[Muskie5]

If you are going to correct someone, you should make sure you know what you are talking about.

https://247sports.com/college/wisco...d-depth-chart-for-game-against-Iowa-110054837

Wisconsin has a senior TE and senior FB. The OL is RS Freshmen to Jr.

Iowa is using two Freshmen Tackles because KF let the cupboard become bare at two critical positions. We lost two tackles from last year--- do you remember the pass protection last year--hardly anything to brag about.

So if Wisc. is playing RS Freshmen and underclassmen on their OL their coach must have let the cupboard become bare as well, right? Not very logical Mr. 'logic', lol.

 

[Wasnt-drunk-didnt-troll]

Where is nitewing when we need him to point to one obscure position group where we are younger than them.

 

[General Tso]

These are the facts. Iowa population is 3.1 million, Wi population is 5.7 million. Iowa has another P5 school (isu) taking prospects from state as well. WI has no other power 5 in the state. Both rely heavily on in-state recruiting. WI has tremendous advantage in this area. This is the difference. And still Kirk does have 5 Top 10 finishes - pretty darn good for our program!!

This was all true when iowa owned WI under Hayden. It's leadership, not the beaches.

 

[bernman23]

This was all true when iowa owned WI under Hayden. It's leadership, not the beaches.

Times and things change, just as they did for Nebraska. There are more resources to recruit nationally, and as far as the Nebraska's gameplan when they were national powers, Barry knew it from having played there. Then he brought it over to Wisconsin where it's a lot more effective these days because it's 3 times larger and more geographically isolated because of Great Lakes/Canada. Hard for competing scouts to see all those Wisconsin players so they get the vast majority largely unchallenged or for sneak them in for free. This is a strong foundation. The ones they don't even offer a preferred walk-on spill down to D3 UW-Whitewater, a dynasty at that level for the same reason.

Iowa is working at a huge disadvantage with practically half the population, another high major school, 2 D1AA programs, and not being as geographically isolated. If Kirk were dismissed I think you'd end up regretting it eventually. Wisconsin could duplicate the same circumstance over different coaches. Gary Anderson was threatening to throw it away because he didn't have much of a clue how to follow the gameplan, but mercifully quit early before taking the program off the rails and someone with experience there in Chryst got them back on track.

 

[pink shizzle]

Sagapolu is a mammoth of a human being. I hope he leaves.

 

[Freyvet]

This was all true when iowa owned WI under Hayden. It's leadership, not the beaches.

Yes, Iowa had good leadership and Wisconsin poor leadership. Now Wisconsin and Iowa both have good leadership. Makes it more difficult at Iowa cause Wisconsin has the advantages in recruitimg. So enjoy what we've been blessed with at Iowa!! We've been very fortunate for a long, long time!

 

[biggreydogs]

Luckily for you non-Wisconsin fans, the INT machine that is Hornibrook is only a RS-sophomore.
Hopefully next year freshman Coan beats him out for the starting job.

Que the me so horni song.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Dunno if Wisconsin will be younger than Iowa next year, but you are right in that Wisconsin is a young team. Especially on offense, only Fum/Peavy/Ramesh are seniors. WR's are all freshmen and sophomores. Line is young too, with a couple juniors, and the rest freshmen and sophomores. On defense, we'll lose a handful from the 2-deeps.

Then f***ing get worse and stop winning. Thanks.

 

[BioHawk]

Don't forget that Wisconsin is on their second HC in what? 4 years?
LMFAO! Wisconsin crushes the KF apologist's excuses, all by themselves.
1) NOT a blue blood.
2) No beaches/nice weather to sell in recruiting
3) no massive state population
4) no staff continuity (3 different HCs in last 5 or 6 years.
5) their HC actually makes LESS than ours.

Wisconsin actually does have beaches and tourism makes up a significant chunk of their economy.

 

[Eternal Return]

Luckily for you non-Wisconsin fans, the INT machine that is Hornibrook is only a RS-sophomore.
Hopefully next year freshman Coan beats him out for the starting job.

I was thinking about that during the game. I kept thinking, "Boy, if UW had a halfway decent QB they'd be all but unbeatable." I am quite happy that he's young because he really sucks. You guys should have been ahead by 4 TDs at half the way your D was playing. Hornibrook is the one reason why I think you'll lose the CCG against Ohio State. You'll probably never get blown out with that D, though. They'll keep you in every game this year (except maybe Alabama if you manage to get to the CFP).

 

[Eternal Return]

These are the facts. Iowa population is 3.1 million, Wi population is 5.7 million. Iowa has another P5 school (isu) taking prospects from state as well. WI has no other power 5 in the state. Both rely heavily on in-state recruiting. WI has tremendous advantage in this area. This is the difference. And still Kirk does have 5 Top 10 finishes - pretty darn good for our program!!

The only Power 5 team in a larger population state is definitely a huge advantage. In fact, I think Barry Alvarez saw that and that's why he jumped at the opportunity way back when.

 

[LeftyLarry]

I was thinking about that during the game. I kept thinking, "Boy, if UW had a halfway decent QB they'd be all but unbeatable." I am quite happy that he's young because he really sucks. You guys should have been ahead by 4 TDs at half the way your D was playing. Hornibrook is the one reason why I think you'll lose the CCG against Ohio State. You'll probably never get blown out with that D, though. They'll keep you in every game this year (except maybe Alabama if you manage to get to the CFP).

Jack Coan the true Frosh back up has a chance to be very good.

 

[Ladell-hawk]

These are the facts. Iowa population is 3.1 million, Wi population is 5.7 million. Iowa has another P5 school (isu) taking prospects from state as well. WI has no other power 5 in the state. Both rely heavily on in-state recruiting. WI has tremendous advantage in this area. This is the difference. And still Kirk does have 5 Top 10 finishes - pretty darn good for our program!!

True, they also have a major metro city, (Milwaukee, and are closer to Chicago.)

 

[Eternal Return]

Jack Coan the true Frosh back up has a chance to be very good.

Is he likely to beat out Horny next year? Or is that more a hope at this point? ;-)

 

[LeftyLarry]

So if Wisc. is playing RS Freshmen and underclassmen on their OL their coach must have let the cupboard become bare as well, right? Not very logical Mr. 'logic', lol.

No, we had a crazy streak of OLs Hayden Biegel, Matt Miller and Jack Keeler, our entire OL class, who all would have been seniors this season, retiring from injury without playing, Biegel played a little but all three careers were ended early and abruptly.

 

[LeftyLarry]

Is he likely to beat out Horny next year? Or is that more a hope at this point? ;-)

More a hope, my guess is he RS’s next year but we just landed a soph QB considered by many to be the best player in Kansas for our 2019 class.

 

[Harbinger273]

Youth will be a factor in wiskys success. But I think the bigger factor may be the use of Performance enhancers by numerous players. I have suspected this recently. The size of the o linemen and the linebackers is most egregious.

 

[JerryDennard]

Steroids for sure.

 

[Hawkman34]

You must have read that wrong. All of their guys were 5th year seniors and have not had a freshman or sophomore take a snap all year. Iowa is the only team that has underclasman playing. Nice try though.

Our QB is a sophomore for crying out loud!

Not sure what you are getting at? Wisc QB is A Soph as well? Is anything I said incorrect?

 

[buckymel]

Youth will be a factor in wiskys success. But I think the bigger factor may be the use of Performance enhancers by numerous players. I have suspected this recently. The size of the o linemen and the linebackers is most egregious.

Or maybe it's something in Wisconsin's milk?

 

[NorthDSMHawk]

Not sure what you are getting at? Wisc QB is A Soph as well? Is anything I said incorrect?

Please refer to post #12. I thought it was laid on pretty thick.

 

[ScoutRefugee]

Wisconsin actually does have beaches and tourism makes up a significant chunk of their economy.

Not the kind of beaches that recruits are interested in. According to the apologists that like to make excuses, anyway.

 

[Hawkman34]

If you guys couldn’t find the sarcasm there you should practice interneting more.

Sorry DSM.....I actually did think about that, but just wanted to make sure. LOL...

 

[BioHawk]

Not the kind of beaches that recruits are interested in. According to the apologists that like to make excuses, anyway.

They would be if they went there, I imagine. But then that would be mainly in the summer. In a lot of ways, Great Lakes beaches are better than ocean beaches (no salt water, for one).

 

[Suterman]

Peavy has left the team. He will not be back.

 

[LeftyLarry]

Peavy has left the team. He will not be back.

Nice kid but not missed on the field.

 

[buckymel]

Peavy has left the team. He will not be back.

Makes me wonder if there had been dramas of some kind.
He was basically dismissed from the team.