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Holy $hit, Ole Miss after game presser

I’ve never been fired, but I can’t imagine crying over losing a job lol. there’s another one waiting for anyone with any kind of work ethic.

Well we also aren't pouring our heart and soul into a program making millions.

I'd be crushed if I lost my job. Can't get it back in the same program.

That said, I'm not sure Jackson Dart wasn't crying after throwing the pick that got overturned though.
 
Well we also aren't pouring our heart and soul into a program making millions.

I'd be crushed if I lost my job. Can't get it back in the same program.

That said, I'm not sure Jackson Dart wasn't crying after throwing the pick that got overturned though.
I’ve poured my heart and soul into my business. I’m still not gonna cry if it all goes away. Im not a tough guy, I’m just not emotional I guess. At the end of the day, dude most likely has generational wealth and his problems are a joke in comparison to most humans on this earth if we’re being honest.
 
The second a "better" opportunity comes up, he's gone. The guy has proven he has zero loyalty to anything or anyone but himself. I'd never want him as my coach because the second he achieves some success and is approached by a "better" program he gone.
 
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The second a "better" opportunity comes up, he's gone. The guy has proven he has zero loyalty to anything or anyone but himself. I'd never want him as my coach because the second he achieves some success and is approached by a "better" program he gone.
This is new in America? Loyalty went out the window decades ago. “Me first” has replaced “In God We Trust” as America’s mantra.
 
I am a big Lane Kiffin fan and would love to have him at Iowa.

I don't what there is to see here, you have a coach that really cares about his team, his players, and wants to win. He is also honest and transparent and he knows that a golden opportunity, one that doesn't come around very often and may never again, slipped away.
Lane Kiffin is a lot of things. Honest is not one of them....
 
The second a "better" opportunity comes up, he's gone. The guy has proven he has zero loyalty to anything or anyone but himself. I'd never want him as my coach because the second he achieves some success and is approached by a "better" program he gone.
Lets look at his career:

after the typical analyst type route, he ends up at USC as WR coach and then the OC.
Then gets the offer to be a HEAD COACH in the NFL for the Raiders. Kind of a huge step up, although he wasn't ready and it was a terrible job
Gets fired, then takes the job at Tennessee. Ok, now he is employed, ok move right?
Then, he gets his dream offer to be the head coach of USC even though they were under sanctions from the Pete Carrol regime. Went to school in California, coached in California, and LA is a lot different than Knoxville. Blame him all you want but it is a leap that most people would have taken and hard to blame him for, even though he could have won in Knoxville easier.
Gets fired, then takes job as OC at Alabama. Ok, now he is employed again, ok move right? Had lots of success.
After a few seasons, wants to be head coach again and takes FAU job. Maybe he should have held out for a bigger name job, or, maybe some look at it as a demotion. Either way, he made that program into something out of nothing and did a great job in what would appear to be a very humbling experience.
Gets offer to be head coach of Ole Miss. Let's see, hmmm, should he remain loyal to FAU or take an SEC job? Not a hard choice there. And has turned them into a contender.

By all counts, he can identify talent, recruit that talent and then coach that talent. Also, it appears he has matured greatly over the years as well. Age and humility will do that to you.
 
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Lets look at his career:

after the typical analyst type route, he ends up at USC as WR coach and then the OC.
Then gets the offer to be a HEAD COACH in the NFL for the Raiders. Kind of a huge step up, although he wasn't ready and it was a terrible job
Gets fired, then takes the job at Tennessee. Ok, now he is employed, ok move right?
Then, he gets his dream offer to be the head coach of USC even though they were under sanctions from the Pete Carrol regime. Went to school in California, coached in California, and LA is a lot different than Knoxville. Blame him all you want but it is a leap that most people would have taken and hard to blame him for, even though he could have won in Knoxville easier.
Gets fired, then takes job as OC at Alabama. Ok, now he is employed again, ok move right? Had lots of success.
After a few seasons, wants to be head coach again and takes FAU job. Maybe he should have held out for a bigger name job, or, maybe some look at it as a demotion. Either way, he made that program into something out of nothing and did a great job in what would appear to be a very humbling experience.
Gets offer to be head coach of Ole Miss. Let's see, hmmm, should he remain loyal to FAU or take an SEC job? Not a hard choice there. And has turned them into a contender.

By all counts, he can identify talent, recruit that talent and then coach that talent. Also, it appears he has matured greatly over the years as well. Age and humility will do that to you.
Great summary. And it proves my point. The minute he gets a better offer, he takes it.

No thanks.
 
Great summary. And it proves my point. The minute he gets a better offer, he takes it.

No thanks.
And that makes him different than what coach exactly?

KF: Pitt --> Iowa --> Maine --> Cleveland/Baltimore --> Iowa
HF: Baylor --> Arkansas --> SMU --> North Texas --> Iowa

All coaches move around until they find a destination job, whatever matters to them. And most coaches will climb the ladder until they get a head coaching position, but then when they get fired, they have to start over again as a coordinator or head coach of a lower division school, if they get a shot at all.

I would imagine if LK had not been fired by USC he would still be there. He may still be at TN if USC had never offered him a job as well.
 
Lets look at his career:

after the typical analyst type route, he ends up at USC as WR coach and then the OC.
Then gets the offer to be a HEAD COACH in the NFL for the Raiders. Kind of a huge step up, although he wasn't ready and it was a terrible job
Gets fired, then takes the job at Tennessee. Ok, now he is employed, ok move right?
Then, he gets his dream offer to be the head coach of USC even though they were under sanctions from the Pete Carrol regime. Went to school in California, coached in California, and LA is a lot different than Knoxville. Blame him all you want but it is a leap that most people would have taken and hard to blame him for, even though he could have won in Knoxville easier.
Gets fired, then takes job as OC at Alabama. Ok, now he is employed again, ok move right? Had lots of success.
After a few seasons, wants to be head coach again and takes FAU job. Maybe he should have held out for a bigger name job, or, maybe some look at it as a demotion. Either way, he made that program into something out of nothing and did a great job in what would appear to be a very humbling experience.
Gets offer to be head coach of Ole Miss. Let's see, hmmm, should he remain loyal to FAU or take an SEC job? Not a hard choice there. And has turned them into a contender.

By all counts, he can identify talent, recruit that talent and then coach that talent. Also, it appears he has matured greatly over the years as well. Age and humility will do that to you.
Entering the Saban school of rehabilitating coaches was a necessary step in reviving his career. The FAU job was a stepping-stone job ... lower-stakes and gives him more room to learn and experiment.
 
And that makes him different than what coach exactly?

KF: Pitt --> Iowa --> Maine --> Cleveland/Baltimore --> Iowa
HF: Baylor --> Arkansas --> SMU --> North Texas --> Iowa

All coaches move around until they find a destination job, whatever matters to them. And most coaches will climb the ladder until they get a head coaching position, but then when they get fired, they have to start over again as a coordinator or head coach of a lower division school, if they get a shot at all.

I would imagine if LK had not been fired by USC he would still be there. He may still be at TN if USC had never offered him a job as well.
KF certainly had "better" opportunities from the sounds of it in the mid- and late-2000s. Matt Campbell has had better opportunities. Dabo Swinney turned down NFL and other colleges (including Bama according to rumors). Greg Schiano turned down the Michigan job to stay at Rutgers. I'm sure there are plenty others.

There's nothing wrong with a young coach trying to grow his career by climbing the ranks of better jobs. The difference is that Kiffin seems to jump immediately at the brightest shiniest name that comes along every time. He coached Tennessee ONE year before jumping ship for USC. He coached three seasons at FAU before jumping at the Ole Miss gig.

You like him, good for you. I don't, partly because of the little regard he seems to have for the players and schools that entrust their program to him, by splitting so soon after being hired. He also just seems like a doosh to me.
 
KF certainly had "better" opportunities from the sounds of it in the mid- and late-2000s. Matt Campbell has had better opportunities. Dabo Swinney turned down NFL and other colleges (including Bama according to rumors). Greg Schiano turned down the Michigan job to stay at Rutgers. I'm sure there are plenty others.

There's nothing wrong with a young coach trying to grow his career by climbing the ranks of better jobs. The difference is that Kiffin seems to jump immediately at the brightest shiniest name that comes along every time. He coached Tennessee ONE year before jumping ship for USC. He coached three seasons at FAU before jumping at the Ole Miss gig.

You like him, good for you. I don't, partly because of the little regard he seems to have for the players and schools that entrust their program to him, by splitting so soon after being hired. He also just seems like a doosh to me.
Kiffin was treated very shabbily by USC. Those Trojan assholes fired him on the tarmac of LAX upon returning from a loss at Az. A bullshit move….like they consulted Bob Bowlsby on how NOT to fire a coach and then decided that’s the way we are gonna do it. USC athletic department administration was a shit show at that time, too.
 
I am a big Lane Kiffin fan and would love to have him at Iowa.

I don't what there is to see here, you have a coach that really cares about his team, his players, and wants to win. He is also honest and transparent and he knows that a golden opportunity, one that doesn't come around very often and may never again, slipped away.
Are you talking about the guy who committed 12 recruiting violations in one year and told early enrollees at Tennessee not to go to class so they could transfer?
 
KF certainly had "better" opportunities from the sounds of it in the mid- and late-2000s. Matt Campbell has had better opportunities. Dabo Swinney turned down NFL and other colleges (including Bama according to rumors). Greg Schiano turned down the Michigan job to stay at Rutgers. I'm sure there are plenty others.

There's nothing wrong with a young coach trying to grow his career by climbing the ranks of better jobs. The difference is that Kiffin seems to jump immediately at the brightest shiniest name that comes along every time. He coached Tennessee ONE year before jumping ship for USC. He coached three seasons at FAU before jumping at the Ole Miss gig.

You like him, good for you. I don't, partly because of the little regard he seems to have for the players and schools that entrust their program to him, by splitting so soon after being hired. He also just seems like a doosh to me.
I understand what you are saying, although, I don't think anyone was under the guise that he was going to stay at FAU for the remainder of his career and that the Ole Miss job was a good jump.

The TN-USC thing is certainly up for debate. I just put myself in his shoes in that if I was a football coach, and I got hired by a really good program like NC State or Pitt or something but then there was a change at Iowa and they called me and I felt like this was my one chance to go and coach at the school that I love, I would have done it too.

I think for the jobs that he didn't get fired from, he left the programs and/or departments in better shape than when he got there.
 
I understand what you are saying, although, I don't think anyone was under the guise that he was going to stay at FAU for the remainder of his career and that the Ole Miss job was a good jump.

The TN-USC thing is certainly up for debate. I just put myself in his shoes in that if I was a football coach, and I got hired by a really good program like NC State or Pitt or something but then there was a change at Iowa and they called me and I felt like this was my one chance to go and coach at the school that I love, I would have done it too.

I think for the jobs that he didn't get fired from, he left the programs and/or departments in better shape than when he got there.
Do folks here thinkKidfin would be a “good fit” at Iowa? I’d be surprised…I feel a lot Alford vibes in him…
 
Kiffin was treated very shabbily by USC. Those Trojan assholes fired him on the tarmac of LAX upon returning from a loss at Az. A bullshit move….like they consulted Bob Bowlsby on how NOT to fire a coach and then decided that’s the way we are gonna do it. USC athletic department administration was a shit show at that time, too.
Didn't the clown just lose 63-21 to a middling ASU team. After barely surviving the year before going 6-6 with a team full of Carroll recruits and preseason #1. The big mouth clown, bad mouthed the AD, deflated footballs vs opponents, got punched by and assistant, then quit on team prior to bowl game.
Ya real shabby treament for the life long loser that fails upward because his dad was a supposed genius.
You want an awful program hire this arse clown. Who spends more time being a smart arse on SM than coaching his team.
 
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Speaking of Ole Miss, I've been hearing they are our likely opponent in the ReliaQuest Bowl in Tampa. I hope not. They are ranked in the Top Ten in both Total Offense and Total Defense. Just another year that our meaningless victories prompt the conference to match us up with a SEC team that will blow our doors off.
 
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Speaking of Ole Miss, I've been hearing they are our likely opponent in the ReliaQuest Bowl in Tampa. I hope not. They are ranked in the Top Ten in both Total Offense and Total Defense. Just another year that our meaningless victories prompt the conference to match us up with a SEC team that will blow our doors off.
I'm not sure about that. Ole Miss brought in a lot of portal players. I could see a lot of them, especially the defensive front, sitting out a non-play off game.
 
Speaking of Ole Miss, I've been hearing they are our likely opponent in the ReliaQuest Bowl in Tampa. I hope not. They are ranked in the Top Ten in both Total Offense and Total Defense. Just another year that our meaningless victories prompt the conference to match us up with a SEC team that will blow our doors off.
This will be a complete toilet bowel ... Ole Miss mercenaries are not going to play in that game and the few talented guys Iowa will not either. The Valley vs SE Polk game rewatch would be better than this mess.
 
This will be a complete toilet bowel ... Ole Miss mercenaries are not going to play in that game and the few talented guys Iowa will not either. The Valley vs SE Polk game rewatch would be better than this mess.

This is why it’s only a matter of time before playoffs are 24 teams
 
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