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Hotel Workers Strike...

Should it be unlawful for a union to protest/picket outside of residential properties?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 45.5%
  • No

    Votes: 6 54.5%

  • Total voters
    11

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Lost in all the coverage about the Longshoremen, the UniteHere! hotel workers strike is ongoing. I dodged it while I was in Hawaii but it's a permanent picket line now.

Thinking about this situation, I believe that this sort of activity should be unlawful at a hotel. A hotel isn't just a workplace. Under most state laws, a hotel is the "residence" of all the guests.

Work stoppage? That's fine. But a picket line harassing guests? That's not fine. This is not a factory or a loading dock. We're talking about people's (temporary) homes!

And there are surrounding hotels that are being disrupted and they have nothing to do with this dispute. That shouldn't be allowed to happen.

Who's with me on this?
 
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You’re such a dolt.

Let me ask you this:

Should the union be allowed to yell and scream and blow whistles and airhorns if they're picketing a hospital? Should the union be allowed to block ambulances trying to bring patients to the ER?

How about at the airport? Should the union be able to block passengers trying to catch a flight? And block flight crews?

Why or why not?
 
Let me ask you this:

Should the union be allowed to yell and scream and blow whistles and airhorns if they're picketing a hospital? Should the union be allowed to block ambulances trying to bring patients to the ER?

How about at the airport? Should the union be able to block passengers trying to catch a flight? And block flight crews?

Why or why not?
Should you be allowed to yell and scream at teenagers going to their OBGYNs? You know…like the entire history of the pro-life movement has done?
 
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Should you be allowed to yell and scream at teenagers going to their OBGYNs? You know…like the entire history of the pro-life movement has done?

Nope. That should be unlawful, too.

Protest all you want, but you can't harass customers.

SCABS? Maybe. But not customers.
 
I would also like to point out that many of the properties at the Hilton Hawaiian Village (and surrounding non-Hilton properties) are timeshares, not hotels. That makes them even MORE residential.
 
I hope the union goes on strike at your mom's nursing home.
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The picketing has had an impact not just outside the Hilton, but the surrounding neighborhood. And some don’t like it.

“Every morning it starts at 7 in the morning and starts the loud noise, on Saturday, Sunday, every morning. And it goes constantly until ten o’clock. I mean nonstop,” said Waikiki resident Ken Simon.

Simon’s apartment faces the hotel.

“I would support them and everybody else would too if they would stop all this torture, this noise,” he said.

Simon added that if the striking workers just marched back and forth in front of the hotel, “We’d probably march with them.”


 
The picketing has had an impact not just outside the Hilton, but the surrounding neighborhood. And some don’t like it.

“Every morning it starts at 7 in the morning and starts the loud noise, on Saturday, Sunday, every morning. And it goes constantly until ten o’clock. I mean nonstop,” said Waikiki resident Ken Simon.

Simon’s apartment faces the hotel.

“I would support them and everybody else would too if they would stop all this torture, this noise,” he said.

Simon added that if the striking workers just marched back and forth in front of the hotel, “We’d probably march with them.”



What is the noice ordinance in that locality? My guess is they are following the noise ordinance.
 
Union rights and rules are federal in nature. Federal law shouldn't give them the right to do this if it adversely affects people's homes.

Yes but protest laws would be local.

The picketing itself and not the work stoppage would be considered a protest and probably subject to local and state laws.
 
Yes but protest laws would be local.

The picketing itself and not the work stoppage would be considered a protest and probably subject to local and state laws.

Which is why we need to reform the federal laws specific to a union strike so there are no more Ken Simons.
 
Union rights and rules are federal in nature. Federal law shouldn't give them the right to do this if it adversely affects people's homes.
Local rules should be in place for this. If not, they might want to consider that.
 
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