How do Iowa fans feel about the Big Ten's "special exception" for Michigan?

[ChiTownLion]

"Wednesday afternoon, Bruce Feldman of FOX Sports reported the Big Ten had approved Michigan's waiver request to allow Rudock to transfer within the conference and be eligible right away for one final season."


RT @NYCDoctorJoe: Why did B1G make exception for Rudock transfer? Just curious.
RT @GerryDiNardo: Because it was right thing 2 do especially in the day of student athletes rights.

PSU board has some questions.

 

[ichawk24]

Re: How do Iowa fans feel about the Big Ten's "special exception" for

It wasn't a special exception. The B1G created a process to prevent bad feelings between schools. Kirk Ferentz said he would allow him to go anywhere. The committee reviewed and approved.
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[SLarew]

Re: How do Iowa fans feel about the Big Ten's "special exception" for

Doesn't bother me at all. Iowa doesn't plAy Michigan in regular season and doubtful they ll play in BIG championship game
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[J_Heater]

Re: How do Iowa fans feel about the Big Ten's "special exception" for


What special exception?

Is it the one created in your mind because you have penis envy of Michigan athletics?

 

[DrMazenblue]

Silly Nit. The Big Ten Charter specifies that Michigan must be favored at all times, and Penn State must be screwed over at all times. I thought every Penn State fan understood that by now?

Originally posted by ChiTownLion:
"Wednesday afternoon, Bruce Feldman of FOX Sports reported the Big Ten had approved Michigan's waiver request to allow Rudock to transfer within the conference and be eligible right away for one final season."


RT @NYCDoctorJoe: Why did B1G make exception for Rudock transfer? Just curious.
RT @GerryDiNardo: Because it was right thing 2 do especially in the day of student athletes rights.

 

[gryzz14]

Doesn't bother me. Hopefully Michigan lets Higdon come to Iowa for his senior year to study astrophysics, once we get that masters program to lure him back.

You took Higdon and JR, what other players do you want? Seriously, though, the prospect of having another year of a possible quarterback controversy if Beathard does not do well is less desirable than not having a solid backup, so the large majority of fans do not care. Except for one poster, who I hope did not do something drastic to himself once he learned the news. He hasn't posted since.

 

[St_Henry_Buckeye]

Yeah somehow I think psu has more important things to worry about than a qb transferring. If only they had been as interested in the dirty laundry in their own program.

 

[vincebrookins]

The only problem I have with this is when Jake is the starting quarterback in Superbowl LI, his school will be listed as michigan.

 

[ThatsFootball]

Originally posted by ChiTownLion:
"Wednesday afternoon, Bruce Feldman of FOX Sports reported the Big Ten had approved Michigan's waiver request to allow Rudock to transfer within the conference and be eligible right away for one final season."


RT @NYCDoctorJoe: Why did B1G make exception for Rudock transfer? Just curious.
RT @GerryDiNardo: Because it was right thing 2 do especially in the day of student athletes rights.

I'm still more curious as to why the NCAA let PSU off the hook by reducing sanctions for the football program.

 

[CoachoftheFuture1]

After Wisconsin beats Kentucky and MSU to win the NCAA basketball tournament, Bo will explain how in-conference transfers work. At least that's what Uthoff told me.

 

[Lone Clone]

SIAP, but I've read quite a bit of the conversation here (and elsewhere) about Rudock, and I've not seen an explanation of how he fits under the grad transfer rule.

He must not be going to med school. In order to be eligible next fall, he has to be doing graduate work in a program not offered by Iowa. The last I checked, Iowa still had a med school.

 

[GarryO37]

Originally posted by Lone Clone:
SIAP, but I've read quite a bit of the conversation here (and elsewhere) about Rudock, and I've not seen an explanation of how he fits under the grad transfer rule.

He must not be going to med school. In order to be eligible next fall, he has to be doing graduate work in a program not offered by Iowa. The last I checked, Iowa still had a med school.

Med schools have different programs within them. It wouldn't be too hard.

 

[iahawkeyes17]

Originally posted by Lone Clone:
SIAP, but I've read quite a bit of the conversation here (and elsewhere) about Rudock, and I've not seen an explanation of how he fits under the grad transfer rule.

He must not be going to med school. In order to be eligible next fall, he has to be doing graduate work in a program not offered by Iowa. The last I checked, Iowa still had a med school.

JR won't be in med school next year. Probably won't be until fall of 2016 if he gets accepted somewhere, which sounds likely. Been told back in the day how it is possible to be first year law student and play sports (ex Reynolds Sr on iowa womens bball team) but with med school lot tougher. Though I'm sure there maybe a few cases it there but pretty rare especially to be a QB on Big 10 program. Sure he'll find something some random program UM has that Iowa doesn't.

 

[hexumhawk]

Don't really care other than he would have been a good back up QB. He basically lost us two games last year (ISU and Neb) and almost Pitt.

They finally have the right starter and couldn't be happier.

With that said, I don't think our team will be great next year unless they get some magic.

 

[DavenportHawk8]

Originally posted by hexumhawk:

Don't really care other than he would have been a good back up QB. He basically lost us two games last year (ISU and Neb) and almost Pitt.

They finally have the right starter and couldn't be happier.

With that said, I don't think our team will be great next year unless they get some magic.

Yep Agreed, he cost us 2 games and you could argue a 3rd (Wisky game he was HORRIBLE in the 1st half). HE finally picked it up in the 2nd half after we had spotted them a 13pt lead.

He is a good QB, but the problem isn't with his mechanics or anything physical, its all mental with him. If he throws an INT, its game over. HE will not force the ball downfield and he will check down to the underneath stuff every time. I don't know if the kid is a perfectionist, but dang he missed some wide open receivers last year and instead dropped it off for an easy 4-5yd gain.

 

[illhawkdvv]

The rule says it's alright to transfer as long as it doesn't help the team that the player is transferring to.

 

[Hawks2405]

There is no ill-will towards Rudock and I think most people hope that he does well at Michigan. He is an extremely smart guy and he represented the program really well. Regardless of which camp you were in I think you have to agree that there was probably friction between players on the team regarding the QB controversy last year. Rudock was a game manager that didn't take a lot of risks. I think the breaking point for him was the game against Nebraska where he supposedly had receivers wide open downfield in the 2nd half and he just completely missed them. He was a conservative QB at Iowa. In my opinion, the two plays from Beathard that stood out for most Iowa fans is the throw to Powell against Ball State in the corner of the endzone and the 3rd down play at Pittsburgh where he threw a laser to complete the first down while getting drilled by a DL. Both of those throws were NFL caliber throws and the bottom line is that Rudock couldn't have made either. At this point under Ferentz we just can't afford to have a game manager as we need someone that will elevate the position and the skill players around him. I'm not saying that Beathard will be successful but they had to try something different and give the keys to the car to Beathard. The ceiling is higher with Beathard and we couldn't let him transfer. It was pretty clear that the competition wasn't truly open last year and the coaching staff did a terrible job of handling the whole situation. Here's to hoping that Beathard can have a good season. I'm sure that a certain faction of Iowa fans can't wait for Rudock to have a great season at Michigan so they can tear into everyone else for wanting Beathard. Harbough is a great coach and definitely more skilled at developing QBs compared to the Iowa coaching staff so I won't be shocked if Rudock has a good season and improves his play but that doesn't mean that things would have been different at Iowa.





This post was edited on 4/3 2:44 PM by Hawks2405

 

[HRiscool]

Originally posted by Hawks2405:
There is no ill-will towards Rudock and I think most people hope that he does well at Michigan. He is an extremely smart guy and he represented the program really well. Regardless of which camp you were in I think you have to agree that there was probably friction between players on the team regarding the QB controversy last year. Rudock was a game manager that didn't take a lot of risks. I think the breaking point for him was the game against Nebraska where he supposedly had receivers wide open downfield in the 2nd half and he just completely missed them. He was a conservative QB at Iowa. In my opinion, the two plays from Beathard that stood out for most Iowa fans is the throw to Powell against Ball State in the corner of the endzone and the 3rd down play at Pittsburgh where he threw a laser to complete the first down while getting drilled by a DL. Both of those throws were NFL caliber throws and the bottom line is that Rudock couldn't have made either. At this point under Ferentz we just can't afford to have a game manager as we need someone that will elevate the position and the skill players around him. I'm not saying that Beathard will be successful but they had to try something different and give the keys to the car to Beathard. The ceiling is higher with Beathard and we couldn't let him transfer. It was pretty clear that the competition wasn't truly open last year and the coaching staff did a terrible job of handling the whole situation. Here's to hoping that Beathard can have a good season. I'm sure that a certain fraction of Iowa fans can't wait for Rudock to have a great season at Michigan so they can tear into everyone else for wanting Beathard. Harbough is a great coach and definitely more skilled at developing QBs compared to the Iowa coaching staff so I won't be shocked if Rudock has a good season and improves his play but that doesn't mean that things would have been different at Iowa.


This post was edited on 4/2 11:53 PM by Hawks2405

There shouldn't be ill-will toward Rudock. He did what was asked of him. CJB and Sokol had more talent. The swan dive head coach went with his gut and his ego kept him from admitting the truth to himself. Kirk has chased off more QBs in his time than any coach in recent memory.

 

[Suterman]

I liked Jake Rudock a lot and I wish him well. Sunshine is our QB and Rudock will be playing for a different team. I'm sick of the whole thing. Go Sunshine!!

 

[hawkssox1]

Originally posted by Suterman:
I liked Jake Rudock a lot and I wish him well. Sunshine is our QB and Rudock will be playing for a different team. I'm sick of the whole thing. Go Sunshine!!

+1

 

[Cougar63]

Originally posted by HRiscool:

Originally posted by Hawks2405:
There is no ill-will towards Rudock and I think most people hope that he does well at Michigan. He is an extremely smart guy and he represented the program really well. Regardless of which camp you were in I think you have to agree that there was probably friction between players on the team regarding the QB controversy last year. Rudock was a game manager that didn't take a lot of risks. I think the breaking point for him was the game against Nebraska where he supposedly had receivers wide open downfield in the 2nd half and he just completely missed them. He was a conservative QB at Iowa. In my opinion, the two plays from Beathard that stood out for most Iowa fans is the throw to Powell against Ball State in the corner of the endzone and the 3rd down play at Pittsburgh where he threw a laser to complete the first down while getting drilled by a DL. Both of those throws were NFL caliber throws and the bottom line is that Rudock couldn't have made either. At this point under Ferentz we just can't afford to have a game manager as we need someone that will elevate the position and the skill players around him. I'm not saying that Beathard will be successful but they had to try something different and give the keys to the car to Beathard. The ceiling is higher with Beathard and we couldn't let him transfer. It was pretty clear that the competition wasn't truly open last year and the coaching staff did a terrible job of handling the whole situation. Here's to hoping that Beathard can have a good season. I'm sure that a certain fraction of Iowa fans can't wait for Rudock to have a great season at Michigan so they can tear into everyone else for wanting Beathard. Harbough is a great coach and definitely more skilled at developing QBs compared to the Iowa coaching staff so I won't be shocked if Rudock has a good season and improves his play but that doesn't mean that things would have been different at Iowa.


This post was edited on 4/2 11:53 PM by Hawks2405

There shouldn't be ill-will toward Rudock. He did what was asked of him. CJB and Sokol had more talent. The swan dive head coach went with his gut and his ego kept him from admitting the truth to himself. Kirk has chased off more QBs in his time than any coach in recent memory.

Define "chased off".

 

[HRiscool]

If you were a Hawkeye I would answer you.

 

[delmond]

Re: How do Iowa fans feel about the Big Ten's "special exception" for

Just one point to make: If Jake felt he was the better QB, why didn't he stay and WIN the job back. Why, because he knew all along that CJB was and is the more talented of the two. KF just was too stubborn to admit that his pick for the position wasn't the correct pick. Good luck to JR, but the Michigan faithful will get really tired and very quickly of the check down King.
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[FG86]

Re: How do Iowa fans feel about the Big Ten's "special exception" for

Originally posted by delmond:
Just one point to make: If Jake felt he was the better QB, why didn't he stay and WIN the job back. Why, because he knew all along that CJB was and is the more talented of the two. KF just was too stubborn to admit that his pick for the position wasn't the correct pick. Good luck to JR, but the Michigan faithful will get really tired and very quickly of the check down King.
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Or he just knows once KF pegs you a starter at QB, it is almost impossible to change that. He'd have to have the qb coach squarely in his corner, arguing to change starters....like KOK did for Stanzi, but for some reason, I don't see GD standing up to KF.

 

[redman21]

If Cody Sokol was so much better than Jake then why did he end up at La Tech and not an a powerhouse school?

 

[txhawk I]

Re: How do Iowa fans feel about the Big Ten's "special exception" for

Originally posted by delmond:
Just one point to make: If Jake felt he was the better QB, why didn't he stay and WIN the job back. Why, because he knew all along that CJB was and is the more talented of the two. KF just was too stubborn to admit that his pick for the position wasn't the correct pick. Good luck to JR, but the Michigan faithful will get really tired and very quickly of the check down King.
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It wasn't up to Jake. Daddy took the ball and went home, Jake just followed him.

 

[ThatsFootball]

Re: How do Iowa fans feel about the Big Ten's "special exception" for

Originally posted by txhawk I:

Originally posted by delmond:
Just one point to make: If Jake felt he was the better QB, why didn't he stay and WIN the job back. Why, because he knew all along that CJB was and is the more talented of the two. KF just was too stubborn to admit that his pick for the position wasn't the correct pick. Good luck to JR, but the Michigan faithful will get really tired and very quickly of the check down King.

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It wasn't up to Jake. Daddy took the ball and went home, Jake just followed him.

I think your confusing your Jakes.

 

[txhawk I]

Re: How do Iowa fans feel about the Big Ten's "special exception" for

Originally posted by ThatsFootball:

Originally posted by txhawk I:

Originally posted by delmond:
Just one point to make: If Jake felt he was the better QB, why didn't he stay and WIN the job back. Why, because he knew all along that CJB was and is the more talented of the two. KF just was too stubborn to admit that his pick for the position wasn't the correct pick. Good luck to JR, but the Michigan faithful will get really tired and very quickly of the check down King.

Posted from Rivals Mobile

It wasn't up to Jake. Daddy took the ball and went home, Jake just followed him.

I think your confusing your Jakes.

Not at all.

 

[ThatsFootball]

Re: How do Iowa fans feel about the Big Ten's "special exception" for

Originally posted by txhawk I:

Originally posted by ThatsFootball:

Originally posted by txhawk I:

Originally posted by delmond:
Just one point to make: If Jake felt he was the better QB, why didn't he stay and WIN the job back. Why, because he knew all along that CJB was and is the more talented of the two. KF just was too stubborn to admit that his pick for the position wasn't the correct pick. Good luck to JR, but the Michigan faithful will get really tired and very quickly of the check down King.


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It wasn't up to Jake. Daddy took the ball and went home, Jake just followed him.

I think your confusing your Jakes.

Not at all.

Any more info on it?

 

[J_Heater]

Re: How do Iowa fans feel about the Big Ten's "special exception" for

Originally posted by FG86:

Originally posted by delmond:
Just one point to make: If Jake felt he was the better QB, why didn't he stay and WIN the job back. Why, because he knew all along that CJB was and is the more talented of the two. KF just was too stubborn to admit that his pick for the position wasn't the correct pick. Good luck to JR, but the Michigan faithful will get really tired and very quickly of the check down King.

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Or he just knows once KF pegs you a starter at QB, it is almost impossible to change that. He'd have to have the qb coach squarely in his corner, arguing to change starters....like KOK did for Stanzi, but for some reason, I don't see GD standing up to KF.

I'll take option 3. Neither one of you have a fricken clue what you are talking about.

 

[delmond]

Re: How do Iowa fans feel about the Big Ten's "special exception" for

So heat dawg since you are obviously of superior intelligence, pray tell what your opinion is since we don't know squat. KF loyalists such as yourself must have viewed another football team and QB than we did. So GFY.
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[BuddyRydell]

Re: How do Iowa fans feel about the Big Ten's "special exception" for

Originally posted by delmond:
So heat dawg since you are obviously of superior intelligence, pray tell what your opinion is since we don't know squat. KF loyalists such as yourself must have viewed another football team and QB than we did. So GFY.

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You seriously don't know what you're ever talking about. You would do very well just to shut up, READ, listen to the coaches and the few that know something on here (me) and LEARN.
Read coach Whites interview and then go back and read my posts about the changes I said would be made to the running game, the TE's, etc.. and then don't doubt me again.
You have no idea what was said between the coaches and the QB;s and who wanted what. Just pure conjecture, so there is no sense in placing blame.
It's over, get over it. Move on. And the next time you THINK you have an intelligent thought, just let it go. Because it isn't.

 

[OldTownPepe]

I think it's good for Rudock, good for Iowa, and good for Michigan. Rudock gets the experience of going to two great Big Ten Universities, Iowa gets rid of the annoying, distracting "quarterback controversy", and Michigan gets an experienced backup quarterback. I doubt if Harbaugh will use him as a starter, but who knows?
I think DiNardo has it right, and I wish the best of luck to all.

 

[txhawk I]

Re: How do Iowa fans feel about the Big Ten's "special exception" for

Originally posted by ThatsFootball:

Originally posted by txhawk I:

Originally posted by ThatsFootball:

Originally posted by txhawk I:

Originally posted by delmond:
Just one point to make: If Jake felt he was the better QB, why didn't he stay and WIN the job back. Why, because he knew all along that CJB was and is the more talented of the two. KF just was too stubborn to admit that his pick for the position wasn't the correct pick. Good luck to JR, but the Michigan faithful will get really tired and very quickly of the check down King.


Posted from Rivals Mobile

It wasn't up to Jake. Daddy took the ball and went home, Jake just followed him.

I think your confusing your Jakes.

Not at all.

Any more info on it?

yes, there is.

 

[delmond]

Re: How do Iowa fans feel about the Big Ten's "special exception" for

Dbag Rudedell/Foley sucks. STFU

Your Momma run your bath yet you POS
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[Hawk_4shur]

Originally posted by OldTownPepe:
I think it's good for Rudock, good for Iowa, and good for Michigan. Rudock gets the experience of going to two great Big Ten Universities, Iowa gets rid of the annoying, distracting "quarterback controversy", and Michigan gets an experienced backup quarterback. I doubt if Harbaugh will use him as a starter, but who knows?
I think DiNardo has it right, and I wish the best of luck to all.

+1, yup, you bet, totally agree. Good luck JR, good luck CJ.

Could this be a win-win? Could this work out for everyone??

Nah, somebody got screwed and it's somebody fault.

 

[HRiscool]

Originally posted by OldTownPepe:
I think it's good for Rudock, good for Iowa, and good for Michigan. Rudock gets the experience of going to two great Big Ten Universities, Iowa gets rid of the annoying, distracting "quarterback controversy", and Michigan gets an experienced backup quarterback. I doubt if Harbaugh will use him as a starter, but who knows?
I think DiNardo has it right, and I wish the best of luck to all.

I hope so. Over the last 16 years we've had a QB controversy about 8 of them. Of course that's probably true for most schools. A position as important as QB is going to have lots of controversy no matter the school.

 

[BuddyRydell]

Re: How do Iowa fans feel about the Big Ten's "special exception" for

Originally posted by delmond:
Dbag Rudedell/Foley sucks. STFU

Your Momma run your bath yet you POS

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Why do you keep refering to me as a Point Of Sale?