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How good is Cassiopi?

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I don't know much about this kid, but to me, he is the most entertaining heavy I've seen wrestle for Iowa, ever. Banach was before my time. Someone in the know, could Cassiopi stun the world and win it all in March? Who would be the stylistic mismatches standing in his way? I'm guessing Steveson and possibly cassar if he returns. Has her ever wrestled Parris?

Thanks in advance.
 
He’s beaten Parris in freestyle, in dominating fashion. I think he can get 2nd behind Steveson if Cassar isn’t healthy.
 
IMO Tony is raw and still very young from a physical perspective, he has just begun to get some of his college strength and has not touched his man strength yet which is scary. His talent level is at or above the top guys at the weight and he is maturing rapidly.

The Banach’s were freakish Big Cass will be also if he stays on this trajectory. I believe he can beat anybody at the weight class this year and what’s more important I think he believes he can beat anybody.

Tony has some very good offense from Neutral and top positions, for a big big guy he also moves really well and this is improving. Bobby T has gotten him dialed in and is doing a fantastic job of coaching for what I can see, they will be ready for a title run come March!
 
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Banach only wrestled at Hwt but weight was 218-220 and wrestled unlimited. Tab Thacker weighed over 400 pounds and theres a great photo somewhere of him and Lou wrestling. Lou was one of the greatest and will always be a fan favorite..he was the first in a long line of Hwts including John Ostendorf (Big O) ect.
 
I don't know much about this kid, but to me, he is the most entertaining heavy I've seen wrestle for Iowa, ever. Banach was before my time. Someone in the know, could Cassiopi stun the world and win it all in March? Who would be the stylistic mismatches standing in his way? I'm guessing Steveson and possibly cassar if he returns. Has her ever wrestled Parris?

Thanks in advance.
Tony beat Parris at Midlands last year. And yes, he has the ability to win Nationals this season.
 
Best part of Big Cass' wrestling style is that he attacks the legs and doesn't get caught shooting from long range and getting crushed and stuck underneath bigger guys. he attacks on a lot of re-shots...which is unusual for HWTS....he drops from his over under pummel to the leg lift single with ease and as he matures even more physically these moves will be even more effective.... when he goes upper body , i would love to see him incorporate an occasional foot sweep just to catch the forward lumbering plodders and even the occasional lazy good guy who gets caught flat footed...it would also serve as a set up for some separation for his leg attacks.... but that's just 1 man's opinion.... We love watching him wrestle and truly think he could win it all if he hits his peak at Nationals.
 
cass really good, steveson well cass will have to prove to me since gable has handled him before,could happen.
 
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Tony beat Parris at Midlands last year. And yes, he has the ability to win Nationals this season.
I don’t believe Tony and Parris have ever met in folk. They wrestled in free style - I believe after their senior year of high school. Iirc it was a tech fall...something like 10-0.
 
I don’t believe Tony and Parris have ever met in folk. They wrestled in free style - I believe after their senior year of high school. Iirc it was a tech fall...something like 10-0.
Could be a faulty memory. Could have sworn Tony beat him in a fairly high-scoring match. Can’t find his match by match results at the moment and don’t have time to look. Maybe Andre can list his matches from Midlands.
 
Could be a faulty memory. Could have sworn Tony beat him in a fairly high-scoring match. Can’t find his match by match results at the moment and don’t have time to look. Maybe Andre can list his matches from Midlands.

They haven’t met in folk. Cass best him pretty easy in Free but Parris has made a leap in both styles IMO.
 
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I don’t think Cass can beat Gable or a healthy Cassar right now.

Cass will be fighting for 3rd with Paris, but it is hard to say how he matches up right now. Last year’s version of Paris, I think Cass could beat, but as Chief notes Paris appears to have made some significant improvements. That is a matchup I’m really looking forward too.

Also, expect Gable to be very chippy when he wrestles Cass.
 
I love Big Cass, he's a skilled active big man. He looks so much physically stronger this year. I look forward to seeing how he matches up with guys like Steveson and Kirkvelt throughout his career. I am a bit concerned that his height could hold him back a bit, but I tend to be a glass half-empty type FWIW.
 
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I love Big Cass, he's a skilled active big man. He looks so much physically stronger this year. I look forward to seeing how he matches up with guys like Steveson and Kirkvelt throughout his career. I am a bit concerned that his height could hold him back a bit, but I tend to be a glass half-empty type FWIW.
being short can also cause problems for guys he wrestles too. What I loved seeing is his hips. He has great hips and being short and great hips will make shooting on his very difficult.

great rider, good on bottom, pinner, great defense and a snatch single. This all adds up to being a great heavyweight.
 
It’s been a while since the Hawks weren’t at least solid at Hwt, Stoll, Bobby T, Danimal, Matt Fields, Blake Rasing, etc but to me Tony is just a more exciting big guy to watch. Stoll house seems like a good dude, but he was typically my potty break match, his style is slow and rarely exciting. Tony wrestles with grit and hustles. He improved by leaps and bounds from his redshirt year, 7th at Midlands, to now, Midlands champ beating guys that hammered him a year ago. I do agree however, that he’ll have a hard time getting past Gable and a healthy Cassar. Both those guys are total packages skill wise and they have Cass in the size department.
 
IMO Tony is raw and still very young from a physical perspective, he has just begun to get some of his college strength and has not touched his man strength yet which is scary. His talent level is at or above the top guys at the weight and he is maturing rapidly.

The Banach’s were freakish Big Cass will be also if he stays on this trajectory. I believe he can beat anybody at the weight class this year and what’s more important I think he believes he can beat anybody.

Tony has some very good offense from Neutral and top positions, for a big big guy he also moves really well and this is improving. Bobby T has gotten him dialed in and is doing a fantastic job of coaching for what I can see, they will be ready for a title run come March!
As usual well said Grip. I like Tony a lot and his potential ceiling is very high. I want to see him against some more of the top guys before I just put him in the top 4 in March. I was a little concerned how easy Gremmel got to his legs for quick takedowns. Having said that he came right back with several of his own takedowns, but that first period definitely has me pumping the brakes a tad. I couldn't be happier with his progress to this point. Beating my expectations for sure.
 
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We will find out over next 60 days. High ceiling. HWT with 2 highly ranked dudes seem to be a battle of a single TD. In regulation or OT. Inches
 
Here are the currently wrestling(expecting Cassar to be healthy when it matters) 285 tiers IMHO:

Tier 1: Cassar(healthy) and Steveson. These 2 have the perfect combination of size, strength and speed for their body types. The only thing that has really separated them is their gas tank differential. I think Steveson is the most diversely technical talent at the weight. He just hasn't seemed to have the gas tank to keep the throttle open. If he can get his conditioning to a top level, I could see him separating from Cassar.

Tier 2: Parris, Cass and Wood. Parris has gained the right amount of size and, more importantly, confidence. He was a raw as you could get coming into a DI program. He and Cass are the only 2 currently wrestling with the potential to reach Tier 1(Kerkvliet and Schultz may also be able to once they officially start). I see no reason to comment on Cass. You all have been able to follow his talent enough to assess him on your own. Wood has struggled a bit this year, but he has also wrestled the toughest 285 schedule so far. He has lost to Cassar and Steveson, but he has also lost to Orndorff and Thomas. Neither of those guys are "bad" losses, but they aren't what you should see from a Tier 2 guy. If he regains his form from the end of last season, he is still Tier 2, but he is on the fringe of Tier 3 currently.

Tier 3: Stencel,Hillger and Hall. All 3 are likely to AA and have the talent to knock off a Tier 2 guy on the right day. They can also lose to a Tier 4 guy on the wrong day. Stencel is the most wide open 285 I have seen for his body style. As such, he can pin just about everyone. However, this does make him prone to mistakes. Hillger is a very athletic big man who does everything well, but not elite. Hall is exceptionally sound in his positioning. This makes him "Tony Nelson"esque in that he likely takes matches to OT tied 1-1.

Tier 4: Orndorff, Gremmel and Thomas. These guys are the fringe AA types that could medal with the right draw. They could snipe Tier 3 and even Tier 2 on an off day.

Best of the rest: Hokit, Isley, Heino and Slavikouski. The guys could knock off a tier 3 or 4 type guy, but I don't see them winning enough matches to reach the podium.
 
He's going to be joy to watch at HWT. for the next 4 years. He's absolutely top tier, but I wouldn't expect a National Title out of him quite yet, though he is certainly capable. Lot of good Big Boys out there, but he is without question one of them.
 
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Total brain fart, apparently. Tony looked great in that imaginary win, FWIW.

You're not the only one. I would have sworn I watched him beat him at Midlands as well. If WrestleStat shows unofficial matches (Redshirt), why doesn't it have all the unofficial matches from last year. It shows three matches from Midlands, but he wrestled more than that there last year. It doesn't show any matches from day 2 (12/30/2018) and he wrestled at least two that day. It doesn't show his win over Parris or his loss to Heino. WrestleStat is either incomplete, or showing some unofficial matches that shouldn't be shown.

Edit: I was wrong, see below post, but WS still has some, but not all his Midlands matches.

Edit again: I was forgetting that what Andegre posted only shows common opponents, so it was not incomplete. I have apologized to him in a post further down the thread.
 
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Would you give us play by play of this match?

Play-by-play is Big Cass overpowered him, and hammered him good. I'm too lazy to find last year's paperwork to see the score, but memory tells me he beat him comfortably. I think Parris has improved greatly since then, but Tony has gotten better too.
Might have been the 7th Place match at Midlands, I don't remember for sure, but I remember him beating him there.

Edit: I guess I'm losing my mind. Parris was 6th and Tony 7th. Maybe I was thinking about him beating Nevills, but it was Aaron Nevills, not Seth, so no big deal, except Nevills wrestled back to 4th with a good draw. It was Stencil that stomped Parris, then Parris MFF out to 6th. Jennings beat him on the front side.
 
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You're not the only one. I would have sworn I watched him beat him at Midlands as well. If WrestleStat shows unofficial matches (Redshirt), why doesn't it have all the unofficial matches from last year. It shows three matches from Midlands, but he wrestled more than that there last year. It doesn't show any matches from day 2 (12/30/2018) and he wrestled at least two that day. It doesn't show his win over Parris or his loss to Heino. WrestleStat is either incomplete, or showing some unofficial matches that shouldn't be shown.

Edit: I was wrong, see below post, but WS still has some, but not all his Midlands matches.
Nope, WrestleStat is accurate, here's what shows up on Track:


285 Champ. Round 1 - Tony Cassioppi (Iowa) received a bye No Yes
285 Champ. Round 2 - Tony Cassioppi (Iowa) over Duece Rachal (Illinois) (Fall 2:20) Yes Yes
285 Champ. Round 3 - Tony Cassioppi (Iowa) over AJ Nevills (Fresno State ) (Dec 12-8) Yes Yes
285 Quarterfinals - Jere Heino (Campbell) over Tony Cassioppi (Iowa) (MD 11-3) Yes Yes
285 Cons. Round 6 - Tony Cassioppi (Iowa) over Andrew Gunning (North Carolina) (Dec 5-1) Yes Yes
285 Cons. Round 7 - Matt Stencel (Central Michigan) over Tony Cassioppi (Iowa) (Fall 0:43) Yes Yes
285 7th Place Match - Tony Cassioppi (Iowa) over Trent Hillger (Wisconsin) (M. For.) No Yes

Everything except for the bye show up on WrestleStat:

https://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/50650/cassioppi-anthony/profile

I just confirmed with the brackets, Cass is up-to-date.
 
Nope, WrestleStat is accurate, here's what shows up on Track:


285 Champ. Round 1 - Tony Cassioppi (Iowa) received a bye No Yes
285 Champ. Round 2 - Tony Cassioppi (Iowa) over Duece Rachal (Illinois) (Fall 2:20) Yes Yes
285 Champ. Round 3 - Tony Cassioppi (Iowa) over AJ Nevills (Fresno State ) (Dec 12-8) Yes Yes
285 Quarterfinals - Jere Heino (Campbell) over Tony Cassioppi (Iowa) (MD 11-3) Yes Yes
285 Cons. Round 6 - Tony Cassioppi (Iowa) over Andrew Gunning (North Carolina) (Dec 5-1) Yes Yes
285 Cons. Round 7 - Matt Stencel (Central Michigan) over Tony Cassioppi (Iowa) (Fall 0:43) Yes Yes
285 7th Place Match - Tony Cassioppi (Iowa) over Trent Hillger (Wisconsin) (M. For.) No Yes

Everything except for the bye show up on WrestleStat:

https://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/50650/cassioppi-anthony/profile

I just confirmed with the brackets, Cass is up-to-date.

My apologies. I totally forgot last night that what you posted only has common opponents. I am getting old and my brain fails me more all the time. I should probably just shut up sometimes.
 
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Nope, WrestleStat is accurate, here's what shows up on Track:


285 Champ. Round 1 - Tony Cassioppi (Iowa) received a bye No Yes
285 Champ. Round 2 - Tony Cassioppi (Iowa) over Duece Rachal (Illinois) (Fall 2:20) Yes Yes
285 Champ. Round 3 - Tony Cassioppi (Iowa) over AJ Nevills (Fresno State ) (Dec 12-8) Yes Yes
285 Quarterfinals - Jere Heino (Campbell) over Tony Cassioppi (Iowa) (MD 11-3) Yes Yes
285 Cons. Round 6 - Tony Cassioppi (Iowa) over Andrew Gunning (North Carolina) (Dec 5-1) Yes Yes
285 Cons. Round 7 - Matt Stencel (Central Michigan) over Tony Cassioppi (Iowa) (Fall 0:43) Yes Yes
285 7th Place Match - Tony Cassioppi (Iowa) over Trent Hillger (Wisconsin) (M. For.) No Yes

Everything except for the bye show up on WrestleStat:

https://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/50650/cassioppi-anthony/profile

I just confirmed with the brackets, Cass is up-to-date.
Yeah -- on further contemplation, it was the Nevills match I was confusing with Parris. No idea why. But if you guys could have seen the Parris match. . . .
 
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