Seriously. Imagine if we didn’t have them up to this point and someone came along and tried to start that as a fashion trend. No way would it catch on. How much longer are we gonna play dress up with these things?
How long before we as a society realize how stupid neck ties are?
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Hey you’re talking to a bunch of people who want Ben McCollum to take over.
I like wearing a tie. That said, our company has mostly abandoned that expectation favoring a blazer instead.
Years ago, I worked for a company primarily making tractor cabs. When I first started all the foremen wore ties. I always thought it was dangerous as they might get caught in a press or other machinery. Evidently, their insurance company thought the same way and it stopped. And as a result, management, other than outside sales people, no longer had to wear them either.
I still wear ties to church although it appears that many people don't wear their "Sunday best" anymore.
I still wear ties to church although it appears that many people don't wear their "Sunday best" anymore.
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The guy on the left looks like Arthur from Peaky Blinders.
He does!
Maybe I’ll start dressing like that when I turn 60. Shake things up a bit. Nobody would know what to make of you and everyone would give you space.
3,2,4,5,1,6 - M2From the ‘50s…who knew?
M1’ers molest collies and have to follow YouTube instructional videos just to tie a half-Windsor.
I wish capes would become a trend so I don’t feel so self conscious about wearing mine.
I'm down with bow ties. Only two kinds of people wear bow ties. Wholesome nerds. Or serial killers. Not much land in the middle.
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I’ve been to a wedding and two funerals in the last 6 months.
Last time I wore a tie was a tux with a bow tie over a year ago for an American Cancer Society black tie event. Outside something like that I simply don’t see people wearing ties anymore.
Last time I wore a tie was a tux with a bow tie over a year ago for an American Cancer Society black tie event. Outside something like that I simply don’t see people wearing ties anymore.
Haven’t worn a tie since 2012.
Will wear only again on 3 occasions if needed, my children’s weddings, however I’m hoping at least one of them chooses a destination wedding on a beach. 🏖️
Will wear only again on 3 occasions if needed, my children’s weddings, however I’m hoping at least one of them chooses a destination wedding on a beach. 🏖️
Wear a tie for weddings and funerals for sure and events that require one like the Kentucky Derby if you enjoy dressing up for the fillies on Friday (SGC Day -Breast Cancer Awareness) and the Derby on Saturday with some colored scheme with your outfit to match your partner.
But I do like to have a nice tie and shirt to go with a pair of pants and sports blazer of some kind with color or patterns. Add that with a nice pair of shoes and you’ve got a good look compared to the slobs that attend events these days. We are becoming such a lazy, fat, unkept society, it’s sad to see.
But I do like to have a nice tie and shirt to go with a pair of pants and sports blazer of some kind with color or patterns. Add that with a nice pair of shoes and you’ve got a good look compared to the slobs that attend events these days. We are becoming such a lazy, fat, unkept society, it’s sad to see.
I always asked my students early in the year, if they had a way to go back in time to get rid of one person, who would it be? As an example, I told them I'd go back to find the person who came up with the idea of neckties and waste him quick. Not surprisingly, 95% or so every hear said Hitler (not the alleged one currently in the White House).
What is a tie anyway? What is the purpose? Did some random dude just want a pointer going downward to point at his dick?
History
[edit]Origins
[edit]See also: Cravat (early)
The necktie that spread from Europe traces back to Croatian mercenaries serving in France during the Thirty Years' War (1618–1648). These mercenaries from the Military Frontier, wearing their traditional small, knotted neckerchiefs, aroused the interest of the Parisians.[2] Because of the difference between the Croatian word for Croats, Hrvati, and the French word, Croates, the garment gained the name cravat (cravate in French).[3] Louis XIV began wearing a lace cravat around 1646 when he was seven and set the fashion for French nobility. This new article of clothing started a fashion craze in Europe; both men and women wore pieces of fabric around their necks. From its introduction by the French king, men wore lace cravats, or jabots, which took a large amount of time and effort to arrange. These cravats were often tied in place by cravat strings, arranged neatly and tied in a bow.
International Necktie Day is celebrated on October 18 in Croatia and in various cities around the world, including in Dublin, Tübingen, Como, Tokyo, Sydney and other towns.[4]
1710–1800: stocks, solitaires, neckcloths, cravats
[edit]In 1715, another kind of neckwear, called "stocks" made its appearance. The term originally referred to a leather collar, laced at the back, worn by soldiers to promote holding the head high in a military bearing. The leather stock also afforded some protection to the major blood vessels of the neck from saber or bayonet attacks. General Sherman is seen wearing a leather stock in several American Civil War-era photographs.
Stock ties were initially just a small piece of muslin folded into a narrow band wound a few times around the shirt collar and secured from behind with a pin. It was fashionable for men to wear their hair long, past shoulder length. The ends were tucked into a black silk bag worn at the nape of the neck. This was known as the bag-wig hairstyle, and the neckwear worn with it was the stock.
The solitaire was a variation of the bag wig. This form had matching ribbons stitched around the bag. After the stock was in place, the ribbons would be brought forward and tied in a large bow in front of the wearer.
Sometime in the late 18th century, cravats began to make an appearance again.[where?] This can be attributed to a group of young men called the macaronis (as mentioned in the song "Yankee Doodle"). These were young Englishmen who returned from Europe and brought with them new ideas about fashion from Italy. The French contemporaries of the macaronis were the 'petits-maîtres' and incroyables.
1800–1850: cravat, stocks, scarves, bandanas
[edit]At this time, there was also much interest in the way to tie a proper cravat and this led to a series of publications. This began in 1818 with the publication of Neckclothitania, a style manual that contained illustrated instructions on how to tie 14 different cravats. Soon after, the immense skill required to tie the cravat in certain styles quickly became a mark of a man's elegance and wealth.[5] It was also the first book to use the word tie in association with neckwear.
It was about this time that black stocks made their appearance. Their popularity eclipsed the white cravat, except for formal and evening wear. These remained popular through the 1850s. At this time, another form of neckwear worn was the scarf. This was where a neckerchief or bandana was held in place by slipping the ends through a finger or scarf ring at the neck instead of using a knot. This is the classic sailor neckwear and may have been adopted from them.
1860s–1945: bow ties, scarf/neckerchief, the ascot, the long tie
[edit]With the Industrial Revolution, more people wanted neckwear that was easy to put on, was comfortable and would last an entire workday. Neckties were designed to be long, thin, and easy to knot, without accidentally coming undone. This is the necktie design still worn by millions.
Academic tailors Castell & Son (Oxford) Limited, which opened in 1846 in Oxford, takes credit for creating the first modern style necktie in 1870.[6]
In 1903, Theodore Roosevelt became the first US president to wear the modern long necktie in a presidential portrait.[7][8]
By this time, the sometimes complicated array of knots and styles of neckwear gave way to neckties and bow ties, the latter a much smaller, more convenient version of the cravat. Another type of neckwear, the ascot tie, was considered de rigueur for male guests at formal dinners and male spectators at races. These ascots had wide flaps that were crossed and pinned together on the chest.
In 1922, a New York tie maker, Jesse Langsdorf, came up with a method of cutting the fabric on the bias and sewing it in three segments.[9] This technique improved elasticity and facilitated the fabric's return to its original shape. Since that time, most men have worn the "Langsdorf" tie.[10] Yet another development during that time was the method used to secure the lining and interlining once the tie had been folded into shape.
I think dress codes are dumb in general, but I'm an IT nerd, don't need to play Ken and Barbie to sit at a computer and do my job. I just think it's annoying that I have to play dress up to go to some event because the C-Suite knobs actually pay attention to that shit. It's like bitch, I look like a homeless person in all of these "high level meetings" while working remote and that's fine.
Grown ass adults acting all excited because they can wear shorts on Friday is just pathetic. It makes no difference, I want to be comfortable, **** your suits. I just want to drape myself in velvet.
Grown ass adults acting all excited because they can wear shorts on Friday is just pathetic. It makes no difference, I want to be comfortable, **** your suits. I just want to drape myself in velvet.
I have no dress code for my job, but I draw the line at men wearing shorts. Even some women. Like, dude, I do not want to see those hairy ass legs. Put some leg sleeves on.
I was in shop class in jr high were we were using the wood lathe. The guy next to me was wearing a tie. And it got caught. It pulled his head/neck down to the shield and the tie tore which released him. Nasty gash. Very lucky.
I'm probably in the minority in this but that stuff in an office setting really doesn't bother me, I just don't care at all. It's very easy for me to ignore all of that.
I have self awareness and know it bugs other people for some reason so I don't show off the Chewbacca's, but that's me being courteous to my fellow humans. If it were up to me everyone could show up in speedos, I don't give a **** as long as you can do your job. I'm tired of the dickheads who dress up like they're competent but are completely worthless and do nothing but make my life harder.
I'm with you on about everything there. I do not care if people wear collars, short sleeve, jeans. I just don't like shorts on men 😅.
Also sweatpants. Have some self respect.
The General Manager is obese and every friday wears black yoga pants and a Chiefs hoodie. It's gross AF, but I can't complain bc HR and she's the boss. So ya... I hate it.
Pretty much the only people I ever see wearing ties are old fat guys.
Fit people look good in anything.
For the record I can’t remember the last time I wore a tie. When I got my job 16 years ago? Can’t recall wearing one since then.
I'm in a tough spot because I'm self conscious about my wolfman gene but also was raised in a household that shaving anything other than your face as a man turned you gay. So apologies in advance, but sometimes a hairy bro has to let the dawgs out without having to risk turning gay to do it.
In the medical profession ties are unsanitary. They rarely get washed and flop around all over the place. I quit wearing them many years ago. I just wear scrubs that get washed after each use. I wear scrubs without my white coat, even in the office. My patients don’t seem to mind.
Hasn’t this horse pretty much left the barn? Office dress used to mean show up in a coat and tie and immediately hang your coat up or throw it over the back of your chair. Now it seems office workers who would have worn neck ties with a dress shirt and slacks in the past are wearing khaki pants, with a polo/golf shirt bearing the company logo. Banks are the first example that come to mind.
