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How many did Lunardi get right????

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could someone with time go through and compare the real brackets to what he had in his. Time to reveal just what he does know or not. Could committee members be secretly feeding him info? I guess Jerry Palm also. Thanks
 
could someone with time go through and compare the real brackets to what he had in his. Time to reveal just what he does know or not. Could committee members be secretly feeding him info? I guess Jerry Palm also. Thanks

When you stop to think about it which general basketball fan could not get 90-95% of the bracket right? All these guys are really predicting is the last 4-6 teams in/out on a 68 team bracket with 30+ auto bids. So you miss on 2 of those teams you get 66 of 68!
 
When you stop to think about it which general basketball fan could not get 90-95% of the bracket right? All these guys are really predicting is the last 4-6 teams in/out on a 68 team bracket with 30+ auto bids. So you miss on 2 of those teams you get 66 of 68!


Try it some time. If you have all day every day and obsess with it, you probably still miss quite a few more than 2. To think he does not have exclusive knowledge,be it contractual, or just a good old boys deal is laughable.
 
If you are talking doing 1 bracket a hour before it gets announced, most who follow College hoops pretty well could get most of the 68 right. Seeding is where it gets iffy.

I assume you are going to use espn, cbs sports, etc...as a basis for those picks? How about if you just analyzed the season from what you observed, with access to scores/schedules/recaps of the games, no blogs, special luminardati rantings, etc.

On the other hand, if it is really that predictable, based on RPI mainly, why do we even have a committee? They obviously adhere to a set of measurements based on some combo of the various ratings. The subjective observations from the committee do not appear to weigh into the equation very heavily. Think about it, if the "eye test" or other intangible measure of some teams were considered, do you still believe someone such as lune dog can interpret that , add it to his algorthym, and amazingly be spot on with not only picks, but seedings?

Either way, wake up folks. The phrase "I saw it on the internet, it has to be true" applies to mainstream tv as well, sports related or otherwise.
 
Dance Card is the holy grail of selection. They were 100% correct and have been the most accurate historically.
 
I don't even watch this crap anymore. These guys have the best jobs in sports. The question is, "How do you get one of those jobs?"
 
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One half of the NCAA Tournament teams get an
automatic bid for winning their conference tourney.

So 50% of your work is done for you. Then you go
to the five power conferences and look at won/loss
records and RPI. So the Big Ten got 7 teams in the
tournament. As a previous poster stated, you really
are talking about the four or five teams on the bubble.

Bottom Line: Lunardi and Palm are not at the genius
level.
 
When you stop to think about it which general basketball fan could not get 90-95% of the bracket right? All these guys are really predicting is the last 4-6 teams in/out on a 68 team bracket with 30+ auto bids. So you miss on 2 of those teams you get 66 of 68!


Thinking the same thing I know a few years ago only team he missed was SMU he had in, but anybody that watches basketball and had to do it themselves had everyone's record and resume and got paid a lot to do it i would atleast only miss 5 every year at the most. And have quite a few seeds right. Same with anyone who watches basketball. I know the year we were last 4 in he had us as a 10 seed. But I thought we would be playing in the play in games and was right. Man would that be a fun job too!!

I think when he first started doing it he did really well and that's how he got popular but last 4 years or so he's done a poor job for being nicknamed "Joey brackets" and when ESPN talks to him they act like his word is 100 percent.Lately he's messed up a lot of seed and teams then complains about it. Maybe he just overthinks it now, because when he first started he was on the money.

BTW Iowa getting a number 1 seed does that mean we were first four out of the tournament? If so they had us probably in before we lost to Indiana and would have only needed to beat Indiana to get in, crazy! Makes that game hurt worse but Indiana was on fire while we only had a few guys that showed up and play and played well.

I say if Jok gets lazy with no hustle like i saw against Indiana bench him so these freshman/sophmores get experience, if we go far it will help us next year and show the players they are a good team.
 
One half of the NCAA Tournament teams get an
automatic bid for winning their conference tourney.

So 50% of your work is done for you. Then you go
to the five power conferences and look at won/loss
records and RPI. So the Big Ten got 7 teams in the
tournament. As a previous poster stated, you really
are talking about the four or five teams on the bubble.

Bottom Line: Lunardi and Palm are not at the genius
level.
Lunardi most of just missed Cuse then? Because he was sure they were in he said which hassel the guy from Iowa on ESPN said they are not in and bet a cuse fan dinner on it.

He missed im sure a lot of seeds, i actually think we almost got in due to teams we beat winning their conference tourney. Also 2-0 vs teams in the B10 championship game.
 
I say if Jok gets lazy with no hustle like i saw against Indiana bench him so these freshman/sophmores get experience, if we go far it will help us next year and show the players they are a good team.

I agree that this is a good idea. However, Fran will ride his Senior like a dead horse. Good or bad, Jok will play 30-35 mins every game until we lose.
 
One half of the NCAA Tournament teams get an
automatic bid for winning their conference tourney.

So 50% of your work is done for you. Then you go
to the five power conferences and look at won/loss
records and RPI. So the Big Ten got 7 teams in the
tournament. As a previous poster stated, you really
are talking about the four or five teams on the bubble.

Bottom Line: Lunardi and Palm are not at the genius
level.
Exactly!
 
could someone with time go through and compare the real brackets to what he had in his. Time to reveal just what he does know or not. Could committee members be secretly feeding him info? I guess Jerry Palm also. Thanks
I mean go through the bracket including the seed. If the team is not there, he got it wrong. Of course anyone could pick 65 or 66 of the 68 teams in the tourney. If he knows what teams in each regional then he has inside info!
 
I assume you are going to use espn, cbs sports, etc...as a basis for those picks? How about if you just analyzed the season from what you observed, with access to scores/schedules/recaps of the games, no blogs, special luminardati rantings, etc.

On the other hand, if it is really that predictable, based on RPI mainly, why do we even have a committee? They obviously adhere to a set of measurements based on some combo of the various ratings. The subjective observations from the committee do not appear to weigh into the equation very heavily. Think about it, if the "eye test" or other intangible measure of some teams were considered, do you still believe someone such as lune dog can interpret that , add it to his algorthym, and amazingly be spot on with not only picks, but seedings?

Either way, wake up folks. The phrase "I saw it on the internet, it has to be true" applies to mainstream tv as well, sports related or otherwise.

Joe? Is that you? I always wondered what you did with your life after the brackets were set.
 
I do this myself as a hobby, and it really isn't time consuming, mainly to prove that Lunardi isn't any more knowledgeable than a fan. Obviously you can't help but not be somewhat influenced by what talking heads are saying as you watch games. But, as others have said, 32 are automatic, and about another 30-32 are pretty much no-brainers by the time championship week concludes. I picked 67 out of 68. The only one I didn't get is that I had California making it instead of Marquette.
 
It wasn't very hard this year. I had 68/68 picked, with 36 seeded on the right line (3 of 4 play in teams - had Marquette instead of Providence), and only 3 off by more than 1 seed (all off by 2 seeds).

Basically, if you pay attention to the RPI, then actually pull up the resumes to compare, it's easy to get pretty close.
 
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