I agree with this. Mansell waiting in the wings definitely played in to this decision. I believe the coaches have a good feeling about his potential.
You have failed to convince me. The number 2 and 3 guys could get exactly the same practice reps without regard to redshirt status. Therefore practice reps is not a valid argument in this discussion. Actual playing time is the main advantage of removing the redshirt, but Nate got very little of that. So you are left with more of a mental advantage in giving Nate the title of heir apparent. Was a year of ego stroking worth a year of eligibility? We will never know, but I tend to discount that concept.
That's simply an artificial barrier you are raising. A coach can make any decision he wants with how to practice his redshirt players.
Probably, considering you can't articulate an actual reason for your position. A redshirt doesn't limit your practice time, or your access to training facilities or you ability to study the playbook or film. Its simply an administrative designation. It's not a real barrier to anything the coach may want to do in practice. Therefor, practice is an invalid point. Make a better case for your position, I'm not entertaining your unsupported arguments from authority.
This makes zero sense. You can rip the redshirt off at any moment. So your backup could get exactly the same preparation time with whatever unit the coach likes no matter the redshirt status. And we are only considering 2 QBs in the Stanley situation. Kirk could have kept Nate's redshirt on and still prepared him exactly as he did with it removed. If Nate was actually needed, he could have taken the field and been in exactly the same situation as if the redshirt was removed from the start. My guess is Kirk planned to get Nate more reps throughout the year, thus giving Nate more preparation for this year. But that didn't happen, therefore with hindsight, there is very little to argue that removing the redshirt was beneficial.
I didn't recall that Nate was forced into service for the ND state game, but that would be a good argument. The practice angle is not. Nor is your comparison on the 2nd and third string QB's from this year. Nate was 2nd before burning the redshirt. He could have been prepared exactly the same in practice. Practice can be run anyway the coach wants with regard to preparing a redshirt backup. If Kirk decided Mansell was the next best QB, of course he could be getting the reps you assume go to Wiegers, there is nothing that prevents that action. If I'm not comprehending how things work on the practice field, it's because it hasn't been articulated yet.
Why are you making this like pulling teeth? I asked you to explain what I have wrong. You and others here aren't able to do that yet. All you want is for me to bow to your authority. You will need to make a stronger case about how the redshirt effects practice preparation.
Its been stated numerous times by coaches and past players, the advantages of being involved in actual game prep, and not simply running the scout team. I can guarantee you that if Stanley wanted to redshirt last year, he would have. Why do we feel the need to keep these kids here for five years? If the kid is ready to contribute, let him play! And yes, the backup QB is a very important job. He's ONE play away from being the starter. He must be ready. If the guy is good enough to play right away, let him. This years true freshmen playing, AJ Epenesa, Wirfs, Hankins, ISM, Stone, B Smith, Cooper, that I know of. I believe there are 10 who have played. Should we have redshirted all of those guys? We have two years still to replace Stanley. Heck we may have the guy, in Mansel, or whoever we bring in next.
