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I hope Ferentz doesn't go all-in with Daniels again now

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Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he's back as another option.

But, we need plenty of Wadley/Canzeri when healthy.
 
That would be completely stupid. They make a great one two punch. We've seen the movie before though.
 
Yeah I like this kid but he just gets too many carries. Would love to have seen Mitchell get some more this game. Daniels had something like a 3.4 avg today against one of the worst D's in the country. He also offers nothing in the pass game.
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he's back as another option.

But, we need plenty of Wadley/Canzeri when healthy.

Huh, where is that coming from?

Wadley didn't get carries later in the game because he was dinged. There is nothing nefarious going on here with the coaches. Had he been healthy, he would have continued to be getting touches.
 
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He just had too many carries today against a bad D that went for 2 yds or less. A good D will make things very hard for Iowa to score points with that kind of output.
 
Wadley was hurt, geniuses.

Don't think OP was saying Wadley should have gotten the carries that Daniels got late in the game think he was just saying Wadley and Canzeri should get most all the carries going forward.
 
Good Lord.

You geniuses know who came out of camp as our #1 back?

Sorry, I have seen nothing out of Daniels to show he should have ever been our #1. Our RB play has been less than stellar in recent years. Consistently getting 2 or 3 yards puts a lot of pressure to block well play after play after play. And that has been a big reason we have not finished drives in previous years. 1 penalty and the 2 or 3 yards at a crack isn't gonna get it done. It also doesn't exactly strike fear into the opposing D.

I was more than aware that Wadley was dinged at the end. Didn't look very serious though. When Wadley or Canzeri get bigger chunks, it puts concern into the D. Our Offense needs that threat.

I am saying this coaching staff has shown a preference for physical plodders overs explosive RB's, and that has been to our detriment IMO.
 
He ran with an attitude today..thought he did well. Love the problem we have with 4 backs
 
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Again I like Daniels he is a hard dedicated worker but the Iowa run game struggles when he is in a lot of the time. Telling stat for this game is after Wadley went down Daniels had 14 carries for 42yds for only a 3.0 avg per attempt. Plus Iowa had two drives stall out when Daniels failed to pick up a 3rd and 1 and a 3rd and 2. It puts more pressure on the Iowa O because D's know he isn't a threat on the outside nor is he a threat in the pass game.
 
This is silly. Wadley might not be out. Canzeri was cleared today and should get a chance to prepare all week. Daniels looked much healthier today and made some great moves. He can also bulldoze. Derrick Mitchell made a great reception in the flat out of the backfield early in the game and he's also had some great carries this year behind our offensive line..
 
To be fair, Wadley had very few touches in the 2nd half last week as well.

To anyone paying attention, it's clear that the coaching staff trusts Daniels significantly more when it comes to crunch time.

Also, I believe that Morehouse stated that Wadley could have gone back in if needed.
 
Scored 32 rushing TDs, third-most in school history, over three seasons ... Sixth in Hawkeye annals in career rushing yards (2602), with 4.3-yard average on 599 attempts.

Became sixth Iowa player to lead team in rushing yards for three straight seasons ... Joined Iowa football as a walk-on.


who is he?
 
Scored 32 rushing TDs, third-most in school history, over three seasons ... Sixth in Hawkeye annals in career rushing yards (2602), with 4.3-yard average on 599 attempts.

Became sixth Iowa player to lead team in rushing yards for three straight seasons ... Joined Iowa football as a walk-on.

who is he?

I'll take "Players that had as much business being the #1 RB at the University of Iowa as I do" for $500, Alex.
 
Holding calls, phantom or not, derailed more drives today then Daniels inability to run through 2 or 3 unblocked D-lineman/linebackers. I love the problem IOWA has. There was a year when we didn't have ANY RB's healthy when Chandler was the QB and they some how made it work. Like what all 4 bring to the field and hope they can remain healthy the rest of the year. It's a luxury I can get use to.
 
The year Chandler started we still had Fred Russell and he had a good senior season if I remember right. The next season when Tate was in his first year starting was when we had Sam Brownlee as our top option for most of the year.
 
I'm amazed that the inept Kirk Ferentz has somehow stumbled his way into another 9-0 season, both of which are school records at Iowa. He clearly does not know what he is doing and wins games by happenstance. Hopefully he'll listen to the message boards about how to handle his RB's.


If anything, I have been accused of being too pro-KF on this board constantly over the years.

That said, as good as he is at evaluating Offensive Line play, he has been pretty poor at times evaluating skill position play(There are numerous examples of this). QB's and RB's particularly.

You do need to have a power-back, so like said before, I am glad Daniels is back. Like Auger stated above, I do however see drives stall more regularly with Daniels in there. It's no secret that I have been under-whelmed by Daniels at times. They say its because of his ankle. I say in the past it has been more a case of not seeing things well, and then not attacking the defense.


The play that Wadley scored on in the 1st quarter, I don't see Daniels even making it by the LB. That means 7 points compared to needing to execute a bunch more plays well in order to finish the drive successfully. You remember what our problem was last year? Finishing drives. I am fully aware that there were also times that Daniels got more yardage than a smaller back would have. I don't have anything against power backs, I go 100% by what I see on the field. And I would love for Daniels to make me eat my words.

Ideally you have a mix of styles and also keep fresh legs deep into the game/season. Which brings us back to my original statement, which I still stand by.
 
Am I the only one that thought Daniels looked good? Or at least like his old self?

We'll have 4 healthy capable backs next week.
 
Wadley has wiggle that Daniels does not have but Daniels has power that Wadley does not. I thought they bring different attributes to the running game which is awesome.

Keep in mind that a number of Daniels carries were between the tackles and into the teeth of the stacked box. He got a number of 'grinding out the clock carries' that everyone in the house knew were coming as well. It's sometimes hard to get a great carry avg on those unless we get a seam/crease in the defense. Those types of carries allowed Davis/Brian to call an awesome CJ bootleg to ice the game. No one was back side as they were selling out to stuff Daniels.

You gotta love these stat geeks that can only look at a number to draw an all encompassing conclusion instead of understanding the way a game is unfolding and seeing people take on different roles in the pursuit of victory. Here is a star for you -> 9-0. Guess what.... all the gaudy stats TCU put up this year and they are now a one loss team and out of the playoffs again.
 
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I'm pretty happy with any one of the four getting carries. Daniels ran very hard, I think Indiana was just selling out for the run. He is a load once he gets going, but I think Mitchell is actually the best at the short yardage.
 
I'm amazed that the inept Kirk Ferentz has somehow stumbled his way into another 9-0 season, both of which are school records at Iowa. He clearly does not know what he is doing and wins games by happenstance. Hopefully he'll listen to the message boards about how to handle his RB's.

Win or lose, the armchairs coaches gotta display their skillz.
 
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Wadley has wiggle that Daniels does not have but Daniels has power that Wadley does not. I thought they bring different attributes to the running game which is awesome.

Keep in mind that a number of Daniels carries were between the tackles and into the teeth of the stacked box. He got a number of 'grinding out the clock carries' that everyone in the house knew were coming as well. It's sometimes hard to get a great carry avg on those unless we get a seam/crease in the defense. Those types of carries allowed Davis/Brian to call an awesome CJ bootleg to ice the game. No one was back side as they were selling out to stuff Daniels.

You gotta love these stat geeks that can only look at a number to draw an all encompassing conclusion instead of understanding the way a game is unfolding and seeing people take on different roles in the pursuit of victory. Here is a star for you -> 9-0. Guess what.... all the gaudy stats TCU put up this year and they are now a one loss team and out of the playoffs again.
Wadley has far more power relative to Daniels, than Daniels has wiggle relative to Wadley (insert Canzeri's name for Wadley here as well).

I think Wadley was "dinged" with the ankle late in the game so it probably doesn't matter, but MAYBE, just maybe if Wadley had been in there taking all those carries that Daniels had, we don't have to "setup" a bootleg to ice the clock and win the game. Food for thought is all..................

Daniels is just OK. Happy to have him around, but definitely don't want to see him as the workhorse back. He did make a nice cut here and there yesterday, but all in all he's a shuffler, and he's not breaking long runs that are there for the taking. It is what it is. And Saturday it was good enough for a big fat W. All is OK at the Iowa running back spot.
 
The football ignoramous that thinks Weisman was a good runningback?

You probably think that Jake has a strong arm, too.


There certainly were a bunch of Iowa fans that thought all we had to do was run Weisman 30 times a game and win.

I think Daniels has looked more nimble last couple games. Might be he is recovered from his ankle or maybe just facing easier run defenses. If you compare Daniels vs the RB we just faced (Howard), I think you would say Howard is a more elite RB..better quickness, balance, top end speed.
 
Wadley has wiggle that Daniels does not have but Daniels has power that Wadley does not. I thought they bring different attributes to the running game which is awesome.

Keep in mind that a number of Daniels carries were between the tackles and into the teeth of the stacked box. He got a number of 'grinding out the clock carries' that everyone in the house knew were coming as well. It's sometimes hard to get a great carry avg on those unless we get a seam/crease in the defense. Those types of carries allowed Davis/Brian to call an awesome CJ bootleg to ice the game. No one was back side as they were selling out to stuff Daniels.

You gotta love these stat geeks that can only look at a number to draw an all encompassing conclusion instead of understanding the way a game is unfolding and seeing people take on different roles in the pursuit of victory. Here is a star for you -> 9-0. Guess what.... all the gaudy stats TCU put up this year and they are now a one loss team and out of the playoffs again.

You can call people stat geeks all you want but there is a lot of truth in stats. As someone stated above on the Wadley TD run that was 1 play for 60 plus yds and a TD if Daniels is in there how many more plays does it take and does Iowa even get 7 pts? Last year Iowa had problems scoring and finishing drives and the running game had a lot to do with that. This offense has been a lot more electric because of a change in RB and the skills those RB's have to keep D's honest.

Someone said Daniels had a harder time running because Indiana sold out on the run. Daniels ran for a 3.0 yd avg after Wadley went down against the worst D in the B1G and one of the worst in the country. A good D would shut the run game even more down with Daniels in.
 
They said yesterday that Canzeri was cleared to play. Great that we have enough others to carry the load and still beat Indiana. Hopefully, we will have a completed healed and rested Canzeri back for the final push to 12-0.

Boy, this is fun!
 
I just hope we don't get into a three rb rotation like last year. Tough for a guy to get in a rhythm that way. I think wadley is are best back. My opinion. I'd like to see him get the majority of carries provided he's healthy. Use leshun as a short yardage back or later in the game when we need to wear down a defense.
 
Yeah I like this kid but he just gets too many carries. Would love to have seen Mitchell get some more this game. Daniels had something like a 3.4 avg today against one of the worst D's in the country. He also offers nothing in the pass game.

In my opinion Mitchell is our worst option. To slow and not much burst either. I think Mitchell needs more reps when the game is not on the line. Getting a healthy Canzeri back is big as long as Wadley still gets his carries and Daniels does also. Wadley should get most of the carries imo.
 
I just hope we don't get into a three rb rotation like last year. Tough for a guy to get in a rhythm that way. I think wadley is are best back. My opinion. I'd like to see him get the majority of carries provided he's healthy. Use leshun as a short yardage back or later in the game when we need to wear down a defense.
I am also not in favor of the constant rotation of skill players. Especially running backs. Get your playmaker's on the field and keep them there until they ask to come out to catch their breath.

I'm a huge Wadley fan, and why wouldn't any Hawk fan be. That said, Canzeri was doing GREAT prior to his injury, and he runs hard between the tackles as well, every bit as good as Daniels does, IMO (Wadley is tough in there too - for a lighter dude, he brings it - hits the hole with authority, pretty much every time).

I think Canzeri "deserves" to get the majority of the carries when he's healthy, for 3 reasons. 1. He's earned it. 2. He's playing great. 3. He does a real good job pass blocking/pass catching on 3rd down, the best on the team in that regard (and Mitchell has done a fine job in those regards too - kudos to him).

Absolutely LOVE Wadley, he runs hard and is more explosive than Canzeri as well (not greatly, but certainly he is), he needs to be involved for sure the rest of the year, and he's got 2 more years to shine after that. Great problem to have folks.
 
Fresh legs in November is a great thing to have.

I don't think a RB rotation hurts like a QB rotation can, I see it as way more of a benefit in keeping guys fresh and limiting their hits.

You can also see whom might have the "hot hand" or just have a style that is most effective against a particular D.
 
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