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If All This Sounds Delusional, That’s Because It Is

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Donald Trump is waging war on the American system of government.
On Monday afternoon, his Office of Management and Budget ordered a pause on nearly all grants, loans and other forms of federal assistance, affecting as much as $3 trillion in funds including cash for education, disaster relief and small-business loans, and hundreds of billions of dollars in grants to state, local and tribal governments. Countless organizations, from research universities to women’s shelters, were left adrift, scrambling for answers.
The only real explanation, from the O.M.B. memo, was that this was a necessary step to root out the malign influence of “Marxist equity, transgenderism and green new deal social engineering policies” from government. If this sounds delusional, that’s because it is. But now, it seemed, millions of Americans would have to suffer while the president’s apparatchiks chased down the specters of their fevered imaginations, confident that they’d find the source of their cultural alienation in the disbursement of funds to a veterans’ suicide hotline or free lunch for low-income schoolchildren.
On Tuesday, 23 attorneys general sued the Trump administration in an effort to block the freeze, and a federal judge issued an administrative stay to preserve the status quo until next week, as initial litigation begins to play itself out. Democrats have also condemned the White House, with some Senate Democrats suggesting something like a slowdown of all business if the White House does not relent.
For now, the freeze is, well, frozen. But however this ends, it should be emphasized that Trump has done more than spark a fiscal and political crisis; he has sent us headlong into another constitutional crisis.
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The president of the United States has no legal authority to place a blanket hold on congressional appropriations. It is true that the 1974 Impoundment Control Act creates a process by which the executive can request a rescission of appropriated funds. The law also permits the president to defer spending under a specific set of particular circumstances: to provide for contingencies, for example, or to take advantage of operational efficiencies. Even then, the president must notify Congress with a message that states both the amount and duration of the deferral, as well as the reasons for it.
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Any attempt to impound funds outside of the parameters set out by the act is illegitimate for the simple reason that the Constitution gives Congress the full and unambiguous power of the purse. It is, in fact, the first power enumerated under Article I, Section 8 — “The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States.”
As the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel concluded in its 1988 assessment of the president’s veto power, “There is no textual source in the Constitution for any inherent authority to impound.” Attempts to ground an impoundment power in Article II’s vesting clause and its charge that the president “take care” that the laws are faithfully executed crashes against the fact that it would be “anomalous” for the president to decline “to execute the laws under the claim of faithfully executing them.”
In addition to the plain text and logic of the Constitution, let’s consider its history and purpose as well.
During the fight for ratification, supporters of the Constitution had a simple and effective answer for those opponents who thought the new charter put too much power into the hands of the president.



“The purse is in the hands of the representatives of the people,” James Madison said at the Virginia ratifying convention in 1788, responding to Patrick Henry’s fears of military despotism. “They have the appropriation of all moneys.”
Alexander Hamilton made a similar point while speaking at the New York ratifying convention:
We have heard a great deal of the sword and the purse. Let us see what is the true meaning of this maxim, which has been so much used, and so little understood. It is, that you shall not place these powers either in the legislative or executive, singly; neither one nor the other shall have both, because this would destroy that division of powers on which political liberty is founded, and would furnish one body with all the means of tyranny. But where the purse is lodged in one branch, and the sword in another, there can be no danger.
The aim of the 1787 Constitution was to secure the future of republican government in the United States. And republican political theory of the time insisted, as Madison wrote, on the “separate and distinct exercise of the different powers of government, which to a certain extent, is admitted on all hands to be essential to the preservation of liberty.”
The president may have wide authority to act across a broad assortment of different areas, but he cannot spend any more or less than what Congress mandates without explicit approval from the Legislature. “This power over the purse,” wrote Madison in Federalist No. 58, “may, in fact, be regarded as the most complete and effectual weapon with which any constitution can arm the immediate representatives of the people, for obtaining a redress of every grievance, and for carrying into effect every just and salutary measure.”
To upset this balance of power — to give the president, in effect, the power of the purse — is to unravel the constitutional system in its entirety. A Congress that cannot force the executive to abide by its spending decisions is a Congress whose power of the purse is a nullity and whose spending laws are little more than a batch of recommendations.
In its memo announcing Trump’s freeze, the Office of Management and Budget declared, “Career and political appointees in the executive branch have a duty to align federal spending and action with the will of the American people as expressed through presidential priorities.” Not so fast. The first duty of everyone who serves in the United States government is to the Constitution, which means that career and political appointees have a duty to act according to the law. There is no mechanism by which “the will of the American people” overrides the policies of a previous Congress, signed duly into law by a previous occupant of the White House.
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Put another way, the American system of government is not one in which the people imbue the president with their sovereign authority. He is a servant of the Constitution, bound by its demands. Most presidents in our history have understood this, even as they inevitably pushed for more and greater authority. Not Trump. He sees no distinction between himself and the office, and he sees the office as a grant of unlimited power, or as he once said himself, “I have an Article 2 where I have the right to do whatever I want as president.”
The freeze, then, is Trump’s attempt to make this fanciful claim to limitless power a reality. He wants to usurp the power of the purse for himself. He wants to make the Constitution a grant of absolute and unchecked authority. He wants to remake the government in his image. He wants to be king.
 
Donald Trump is waging war on the American system of government.
On Monday afternoon, his Office of Management and Budget ordered a pause on nearly all grants, loans and other forms of federal assistance, affecting as much as $3 trillion in funds including cash for education, disaster relief and small-business loans, and hundreds of billions of dollars in grants to state, local and tribal governments. Countless organizations, from research universities to women’s shelters, were left adrift, scrambling for answers.
The only real explanation, from the O.M.B. memo, was that this was a necessary step to root out the malign influence of “Marxist equity, transgenderism and green new deal social engineering policies” from government. If this sounds delusional, that’s because it is. But now, it seemed, millions of Americans would have to suffer while the president’s apparatchiks chased down the specters of their fevered imaginations, confident that they’d find the source of their cultural alienation in the disbursement of funds to a veterans’ suicide hotline or free lunch for low-income schoolchildren.
On Tuesday, 23 attorneys general sued the Trump administration in an effort to block the freeze, and a federal judge issued an administrative stay to preserve the status quo until next week, as initial litigation begins to play itself out. Democrats have also condemned the White House, with some Senate Democrats suggesting something like a slowdown of all business if the White House does not relent.
For now, the freeze is, well, frozen. But however this ends, it should be emphasized that Trump has done more than spark a fiscal and political crisis; he has sent us headlong into another constitutional crisis.
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The president of the United States has no legal authority to place a blanket hold on congressional appropriations. It is true that the 1974 Impoundment Control Act creates a process by which the executive can request a rescission of appropriated funds. The law also permits the president to defer spending under a specific set of particular circumstances: to provide for contingencies, for example, or to take advantage of operational efficiencies. Even then, the president must notify Congress with a message that states both the amount and duration of the deferral, as well as the reasons for it.
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Any attempt to impound funds outside of the parameters set out by the act is illegitimate for the simple reason that the Constitution gives Congress the full and unambiguous power of the purse. It is, in fact, the first power enumerated under Article I, Section 8 — “The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States.”
As the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel concluded in its 1988 assessment of the president’s veto power, “There is no textual source in the Constitution for any inherent authority to impound.” Attempts to ground an impoundment power in Article II’s vesting clause and its charge that the president “take care” that the laws are faithfully executed crashes against the fact that it would be “anomalous” for the president to decline “to execute the laws under the claim of faithfully executing them.”
In addition to the plain text and logic of the Constitution, let’s consider its history and purpose as well.
During the fight for ratification, supporters of the Constitution had a simple and effective answer for those opponents who thought the new charter put too much power into the hands of the president.


“The purse is in the hands of the representatives of the people,” James Madison said at the Virginia ratifying convention in 1788, responding to Patrick Henry’s fears of military despotism. “They have the appropriation of all moneys.”
Alexander Hamilton made a similar point while speaking at the New York ratifying convention:

The aim of the 1787 Constitution was to secure the future of republican government in the United States. And republican political theory of the time insisted, as Madison wrote, on the “separate and distinct exercise of the different powers of government, which to a certain extent, is admitted on all hands to be essential to the preservation of liberty.”
The president may have wide authority to act across a broad assortment of different areas, but he cannot spend any more or less than what Congress mandates without explicit approval from the Legislature. “This power over the purse,” wrote Madison in Federalist No. 58, “may, in fact, be regarded as the most complete and effectual weapon with which any constitution can arm the immediate representatives of the people, for obtaining a redress of every grievance, and for carrying into effect every just and salutary measure.”
To upset this balance of power — to give the president, in effect, the power of the purse — is to unravel the constitutional system in its entirety. A Congress that cannot force the executive to abide by its spending decisions is a Congress whose power of the purse is a nullity and whose spending laws are little more than a batch of recommendations.
In its memo announcing Trump’s freeze, the Office of Management and Budget declared, “Career and political appointees in the executive branch have a duty to align federal spending and action with the will of the American people as expressed through presidential priorities.” Not so fast. The first duty of everyone who serves in the United States government is to the Constitution, which means that career and political appointees have a duty to act according to the law. There is no mechanism by which “the will of the American people” overrides the policies of a previous Congress, signed duly into law by a previous occupant of the White House.
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Put another way, the American system of government is not one in which the people imbue the president with their sovereign authority. He is a servant of the Constitution, bound by its demands. Most presidents in our history have understood this, even as they inevitably pushed for more and greater authority. Not Trump. He sees no distinction between himself and the office, and he sees the office as a grant of unlimited power, or as he once said himself, “I have an Article 2 where I have the right to do whatever I want as president.”
The freeze, then, is Trump’s attempt to make this fanciful claim to limitless power a reality. He wants to usurp the power of the purse for himself. He wants to make the Constitution a grant of absolute and unchecked authority. He wants to remake the government in his image. He wants to be king.
The system wasn't set up to be dominated by oligarchs. Who pays you?
 
You wingers have no idea what you have until it's gone.

Problem is the rest of us go down with you fcvks.
Do you know what you are talking about? I have not clue. I'm not a political winger on anything, but you are a wingnut.
 
Do you know what you are talking about? I have not clue. I'm not a political winger on anything, but you are a wingnut.

Why would I be surprised you have no idea if what the government provides is gone you right wingers will suffer along with the rest of us.

And BTW you are a total right winger.
 
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Why would I be surprised if you have no idea if what the government provides is gone you right wingers will suffer along with the rest of us.

And BTW you are a total right winger.
Have you marched in a BLM march? I didn't think so. I have you dolt. The left might pick up steam in the next election, but both parties are in for big surprises due to left and right bullshit.
 
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Have you marched in a BLM march? I didn't think so. I have you dolt. The left might pick up steam in the next election, but both parties are in for big surprises due to left and right bullshit.

So, what now?. Swastikas in the streets?
 
Not from me. I do have a hammer and sickle.
People like you is why Trump is president to the detriment of us all.

A fvcking commie. I've wondered based on your rhetoric.

Well, I'm a 76 year old proud American that's served my country, seen a hell of a lot in life and doesn't have come out of the closet.

I would ask you to elaborate on your "People like you is why Trump is president to the detriment of us all" theory, but I'll leave that up to you. Sounds more like a witticism than an actual accusation.
 
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A fvcking commie. I've wondered based on your rhetoric.

Well, I'm a 76 year old proud American that's served my country, seen a hell of a lot in life and doesn't have come out of the closet.

I would ask you to elaborate on your "People like you is why Trump is president to the detriment of us all" theory, but I'll leave that up to you. Sounds more like a witticism than an actual accusation.
76 huh?
Someone actually older than I.:)
 
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A fvcking commie. I've wondered based on your rhetoric.

Well, I'm a 76 year old proud American that's served my country, seen a hell of a lot in life and doesn't have come out of the closet.

I would ask you to elaborate on your "People like you is why Trump is president to the detriment of us all" theory, but I'll leave that up to you. Sounds more like a witticism than an actual accusation.
We had no choice. In reality, I'm sort of conservative, but get our social issues.

About Trump, we are back to Smoot-Hawley (you might remember that!) which was a huge catalyst for the Depression and WW2. No doubt we have been taken advantage of with Tariffs, but with Smoot-Hawley we were about 24% on tariffs which was a complete disaster and we've risen now to about 18 percent from 3 percent.

Ag will get clobbered. We no longer are kind on soybeans. Corn yes, but there are alternatives.

I have 3 daughters. Trump is a female abuser/user. He's awful and a terrible model. I'll take issues at the Sniffer in Chief (Biden) too.

We needed someone to guide us through the ills of the past 40 years left and right admins. Harris and Tim were no option for middle American which is where the Dems lost the election.

By the way, my son and SIL are both Majors, so don't try and pull the military card. Being a vet doesn't make you special. If you were drafted, many were. If you joined, that's your decision.

I'm also a published military author and had a best seller. My area is WW2. Most of those vets were liberal Roosevelt loving Dems. I grew to greatly admire them. They did nothing more than other generations would have done. What they were thrown in was what was exceptional. They came back highly traumatized.

My favorite uncles were vets. One was a Colonel at the Yalu River when the Chinese arrived. The other was wounded severely in Vietnam. He was in Cambodia as well. 20 years after the war, people except vets and families had moved on. 60k American and a million Vietnamese deaths didn't really matter in the long run. Not saying they didn't matter, but the war didn't matter.

Ironically 2 of my best friends today are Ukrainians who were Soviet Lt. Col officers. One was the lead engineer to rebuild Tan Son Nhut to Soviet standards. 2 of the finest men I ever met as well as my 2 uncles. My dad was ww2 Master Sgt. He was a hothead jerk btw.
 
Hammer and sickle The Communist moniker. WTF is wrong with you.

Got to sign off from this weird shit. JFC.
It was a gift from a Ukrainian military officer. Gave me a uniform and field back.

You need to quit watching Red Dawn.
 
Hammer and sickle The Communist moniker. WTF is wrong with you.

Got to sign off from this weird shit. JFC.
What most RW Americans don't get is that the Soviet "Commies" were thugs first out to use communism to control the masses and make themselves rich. Kind of like the American way.
 
Hammer and sickle The Communist moniker. WTF is wrong with you.

Got to sign off from this weird shit. JFC.
My uncle, the Vietnam vet who was wounded in Cambodia (among other places) doesn't get all the disability he is due because the US Govt says he (and others) were never there.
 
We had no choice. In reality, I'm sort of conservative, but get our social issues.

About Trump, we are back to Smoot-Hawley (you might remember that!) which was a huge catalyst for the Depression and WW2. No doubt we have been taken advantage of with Tariffs, but with Smoot-Hawley we were about 24% on tariffs which was a complete disaster and we've risen now to about 18 percent from 3 percent.

Ag will get clobbered. We no longer are kind on soybeans. Corn yes, but there are alternatives.

I have 3 daughters. Trump is a female abuser/user. He's awful and a terrible model. I'll take issues at the Sniffer in Chief (Biden) too.

We needed someone to guide us through the ills of the past 40 years left and right admins. Harris and Tim were no option for middle American which is where the Dems lost the election.

By the way, my son and SIL are both Majors, so don't try and pull the military card. Being a vet doesn't make you special. If you were drafted, many were. If you joined, that's your decision.

I'm also a published military author and had a best seller. My area is WW2. Most of those vets were liberal Roosevelt loving Dems. I grew to greatly admire them. They did nothing more than other generations would have done. What they were thrown in was what was exceptional. They came back highly traumatized.

My favorite uncles were vets. One was a Colonel at the Yalu River when the Chinese arrived. The other was wounded severely in Vietnam. He was in Cambodia as well. 20 years after the war, people except vets and families had moved on. 60k American and a million Vietnamese deaths didn't really matter in the long run. Not saying they didn't matter, but the war didn't matter.

Ironically 2 of my best friends today are Ukrainians who were Soviet Lt. Col officers. One was the lead engineer to rebuild Tan Son Nhut to Soviet standards. 2 of the finest men I ever met as well as my 2 uncles. My dad was ww2 Master Sgt. He was a hothead jerk btw.

I'm not a military veteran. I won't discuss how I served my country, although it did involve the military and government agencies and foreign countries and agencies within those countries. I was a technical writer and authored manuals and created, sponsored, and managed multiple national projects, and international projects and procurements in my career. (My grammatical skills have deteriorated with the years no doubt as well as the eyesight).

My family has a sterling military history which I won't detail.

So, no need for pretentions.
 
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My uncle, the Vietnam vet who was wounded in Cambodia (among other places) doesn't get all the disability he is due because the US Govt says he (and others) were never there.

That was a terrible period. Rules were thrown out the door. We left the area with who know how many military and innocent civilians, native to their land, dead, maimed, disfigured, and forgotten. Our veterans came back from a war the public turned on. It was ugly.

You obviously are too young to have gone through the period. The country was in a mess. The hold of segregation was being challenged, and state police were being deployed against racial movements. Courts were whirring nonstop with decisions. Ultimately the SCOUTS came down with landmark civil rights decisions. Understand, this wasn't news until it was news. Kennedy Was asssinated. RFK was assassinated. MLK was assassinated. The Vietnam War was on REAL TV, broad with actual, unscrubbed reporting. The type of reporting that sickened the public an exercise that cost this nation 58K(+) fine young men, including a couple of my friends, and left many more

We sent men to the moon after generations of orbit space missions.

VP Agnew resigned to keep from being prosecuted for running a bribery sachem from the White House. Watergate. You have no idea how this nation's pulse was nearly stopped. The difference then vs now is that the importance of Constitutional authority and integrity was not under question. There was a small group of Republicans that stood up and told Nixon to stand down. Literally. Nixon tried the legal maneuverings, including firing AGs. Nixon by these Republican congressmen taking this position never had a chance.

This was a part of that era. Headlines every day. It was a fascinating time and a time much present created much learned history.
 
What most RW Americans don't get is that the Soviet "Commies" were thugs first out to use communism to control the masses and make themselves rich. Kind of like the American way.

Wow1 O.K.

I guess my memories are faulty. Seems like I can still envision the headlines.
 
That was a terrible period. Rules were thrown out the door. We left the area with who know how many military and innocent civilians, native to their land, dead, maimed, disfigured, and forgotten. Our veterans came back from a war the public turned on. It was ugly.

You obviously are too young to have gone through the period. The country was in a mess. The hold of segregation was being challenged, and state police were being deployed against racial movements. Courts were whirring nonstop with decisions. Ultimately the SCOUTS came down with landmark civil rights decisions. Understand, this wasn't news until it was news. Kennedy Was asssinated. RFK was assassinated. MLK was assassinated. The Vietnam War was on REAL TV, broad with actual, unscrubbed reporting. The type of reporting that sickened the public an exercise that cost this nation 58K(+) fine young men, including a couple of my friends, and left many more

We sent men to the moon after generations of orbit space missions.

VP Agnew resigned to keep from being prosecuted for running a bribery sachem from the White House. Watergate. You have no idea how this nation's pulse was nearly stopped. The difference then vs now is that the importance of Constitutional authority and integrity was not under question. There was a small group of Republicans that stood up and told Nixon to stand down. Literally. Nixon tried the legal maneuverings, including firing AGs. Nixon by these Republican congressmen taking this position never had a chance.

This was a part of that era. Headlines every day. It was a fascinating time and a time much present created much learned history.
How do you see then v now?
 
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