If Baylor scores 80+ today does Rhoads get the ax immediately?

[DogBoyRy]

Great point about coaching vacancies. Plus be couple open in big 10 plus be one or two who leaves current school for an upgrade at another power 5 school.

Where else could you have win totals of 3, 2, 2-4 in years 5-7 and still maybe get an 8th year at the school. KFs contract been discussed to no end but really who has the worst contract in the state? Rhoads and his 10 yr extension looking like it lately.

Illinois could change if they can find a recruiting savant but in reality they should keep Cubit (sp). Purdue should give their guy another year or two. Other than that I don't see much change in the Big 10 except Mary and Rugrats. PSU might be a shocker depending on how they finish.
On a somewhat related note if the Texans keep going in the wrong direction Obrian(sp?) will be a great hire in a couple years for someone.

 

[Herkmeister]

Bottom line is Pollard is pretty smart. He knows PR is about the best he can get, he's stuck with some major $$ to him and PR understands what its going to take to get ISU on track - Jucos, transfers, an a occasional legacy like Lazard (feel bad for the kid).
USC's (Cal and Carolina), Miami, and a couple other much higher profile jobs are coming up. Not a good year to be looking for a coach.

I agree and after today Rhoads gave the faithful a little hope.

 

[Lone Clone]

I agree and after today Rhoads gave the faithful a little hope.

Obviously, you didn't watch the game.

 

[Herkmeister]

Obviously, you didn't watch the game.

I saw Baylor go scoreless in the 3rd quarter and an ISU QB play pretty well. I'd say the QB is cause for optimism.

 

[Lone Clone]

Baylor's QB suffered a fracture in a neck bone. Wonder how that will affect them moving forward.

No shit? Wow. That is tough. He was having one hell of a year. The backup is good, and has played a lot because of all the blowouts, and the system is the real point -- didn't miss a beat when RG3 graduated -- but that's a blow.

Hope the kid recovers, obviously. Happened in the fourth quarter with the Bears holding a two-TD lead, so it isn't like he shouldn't have been in the game. But still.

 

[DogBoyRy]

I saw Baylor go scoreless in the 3rd quarter and an ISU QB play pretty well. I'd say the QB is cause for optimism.

ISU could put a jersey on a team manager and play him at qb most years and beat us. It's just one of those karma bs things. With that said the second half Seneca Wallace had in Kinnick was the best half by a QB I've ever seen in college.

 

[Lone Clone]

I saw Baylor go scoreless in the 3rd quarter and an ISU QB play pretty well. I'd say the QB is cause for optimism.

There are a couple of questions. One is whether Rhoads should be retained, which I'm not going to get into right now.

But today's game definitely provided reasons for optimism. Warren continues to excel at RB, and the defense is much improved over last year. Most of the better players on both sides of the ball are underclassmen. Lanning has looked good when he's played.

I'll be surprised if ISU doesn't beat the teasips next Saturday.

 

[DogBoyRy]

There are a couple of questions. One is whether Rhoads should be retained, which I'm not going to get into right now.

But today's game definitely provided reasons for optimism. Warren continues to excel at RB, and the defense is much improved over last year. Most of the better players on both sides of the ball are underclassmen. Lanning has looked good when he's played.

I'll be surprised if ISU doesn't beat the teasips next Saturday.

LC - I usually like your opinion.
You think PR is around next year or does it depend on the finish - wins, competitive, etc?

 

[IamHawkeye]

Sam was really, really struggling. Worst I've ever seen him play, in fact. When Lanning came in, the offense began moving the ball, which kept Baylor off the field. No doubt Baylor lost an edge when they were up 35-0. Cyclones made it easier than it would have been with three early turnovers (and a fourth later). But the Bears didn't let off the gas. ISU's defense played well.

Baylor was missing its best defender. ISU was missing one of its best DL and its best receiver. Also, placekicker had a nightmare of a game -- missed an extra point and put two kickoffs out of bounds.

Baylor has a ton of talent and the defense is better than it's been in past years. Today's game was the most competitive the Bears have played. It will be interesting to see how they do the rest of the year. They still have to play TCU and the two Oklahoma schools, as well as Kansas State and Texas.

TV said Russell of Baylor got hurt during the game, so, depending on the injury, that could factor into future games.

 

[Herkmeister]

There are a couple of questions. One is whether Rhoads should be retained, which I'm not going to get into right now.

But today's game definitely provided reasons for optimism. Warren continues to excel at RB, and the defense is much improved over last year. Most of the better players on both sides of the ball are underclassmen. Lanning has looked good when he's played.

I'll be surprised if ISU doesn't beat the teasips next Saturday.

Good points. I now give PR a chance.

 

[Lone Clone]

LC - I usually like your opinion.
You think PR is around next year or does it depend on the finish - wins, competitive, etc?

I think he definitely could be around next year. I know one is not supposed to mention SOS on this board, so I'll look at it on an individual basis. Here's an objective view of this season.

Beat UNI and Kansas easily.

Lost to Iowa; game was tied and ISU had the ball with 6 minutes remaining. Iowa is unbeaten and knocking on the door of the Top Ten.

Lost at Toledo in two overtimes; 14 turnovers and a blown chip shot field goal at the end of regulation. Toledo is unbeaten and solidly in the Top 20.

Got blown out at Texas Tech. Worst performance of the year, albeit to a good team. Tech's only losses are to TCU and Baylor.

Lost to TCU by 24 after leading most of the first half. TCU is ranked #3 in the nation.

Lost at Baylor by 18 but played competitively after giving up a 35-0 lead and was actually in the game midway through the fourth quarter, trailing by two scores. Baylor is ranked #2 in the nation.

There are not many seniors making key contributions. Some of the brightest talent has two or three more seasons eligiblity after this one.

Remember, the point isn't whether this is the record of a good team. The point is whether this is the record that gets a coach fired. If this were the second or third year of the Rhoads regime, I don't think the subject would even be discussed. But it's year seven.

Personally, I think if ISU loses to Texas next Saturday, it probably means Rhoads is gone. I think beating Texas and one other team probably saves his job; beating Texas and two other teams definitely does.

 

[iahawkeyes17]

There are a couple of questions. One is whether Rhoads should be retained, which I'm not going to get into right now.

But today's game definitely provided reasons for optimism. Warren continues to excel at RB, and the defense is much improved over last year. Most of the better players on both sides of the ball are underclassmen. Lanning has looked good when he's played.

I'll be surprised if ISU doesn't beat the teasips next Saturday.

ISU is only starting 3 under classman on each side of the ball. 4 if you count lanning. Curious to see how he does because we've seen this story before with Richardson and rohach playing as freshman after one good game.

I've never seen some much positivity from a team after losing a game by 18 due to second half performance. Do they forget they were down 35-7 at half?

 

[Lone Clone]

ISU is only starting 3 under classman on each side of the ball. 4 if you count lanning. Curious to see how he does because we've seen this story before with Richardson and rohach playing as freshman after one good game.

I've never seen some much positivity from a team after losing a game by 18 due to second half performance. Do they forget they were down 35-7 at half?

ISU started 9 underclassmen on defense yesterday. Floyd at Safety and Pierson at DE were the only seniors. Also, both kickers (for better or worse) are underclassmen.

You are closer when it comes to the offense. The offense started 6 underclassmen yesterday; switch Lanning for Sam and that makes 7.

I think starting 9 underclassmen on defense and 7 on offense justifies the idea that this is a relatively young team.

No, I didn't forget they were down 35-7 at the half. As a matter of fact, if you read my post, you would know that I said we were down 35-0 at one point. You would also know I specifically said the post wasn't claiming the team was good.

For that matter if you'd read this thread you would know that my post was prompted by comments about whether there was anything about yesterday's game to provide any optimism about the future.

The offense shook off a horrid start -- 3 turnovers had a lot to do with that 35-0 lead -- scored three unanswered TDs to make it relatively close, and held the nation's top offense to 108 total yards in the second half. And while the Bears no doubt lost a lot of their enthusiasm with the big early lead, they certainly didn't take their collective paw off the gas. The starters were in and they were trying to score. They wanted to become the first team to score 60 in six consecutive games.

 

[IACentralHawk73]

There are a couple of questions. One is whether Rhoads should be retained, which I'm not going to get into right now.

But today's game definitely provided reasons for optimism. Warren continues to excel at RB, and the defense is much improved over last year. Most of the better players on both sides of the ball are underclassmen. Lanning has looked good when he's played.

I'll be surprised if ISU doesn't beat the teasips next Saturday.

Texas is one of the games I said at the beginning of the year that ISU would win.

As for Lanning, he's definitely a better option at QB than Richardson, Lanning makes the offense a little more diverse IMO as he seems much more willing to run. Although I'll say if Lanning went anywhere else for college I believe he'd be a tight end.

 

[Herkmeister]

ISU started 9 underclassmen on defense yesterday. Floyd at Safety and Pierson at DE were the only seniors. Also, both kickers (for better or worse) are underclassmen.

You are closer when it comes to the offense. The offense started 6 underclassmen yesterday; switch Lanning for Sam and that makes 7.

I think starting 9 underclassmen on defense and 7 on offense justifies the idea that this is a relatively young team.

No, I didn't forget they were down 35-7 at the half. As a matter of fact, if you read my post, you would know that I said we were down 35-0 at one point. You would also know I specifically said the post wasn't claiming the team was good.

For that matter if you'd read this thread you would know that my post was prompted by comments about whether there was anything about yesterday's game to provide any optimism about the future.

The offense shook off a horrid start -- 3 turnovers had a lot to do with that 35-0 lead -- scored three unanswered TDs to make it relatively close, and held the nation's top offense to 108 total yards in the second half. And while the Bears no doubt lost a lot of their enthusiasm with the big early lead, they certainly didn't take their collective paw off the gas. The starters were in and they were trying to score. They wanted to become the first team to score 60 in six consecutive games.

Good points all. Nicely done.

 

[The_Joker13]

I think he definitely could be around next year.

Lost at Toledo in two overtimes; 14 turnovers and a blown chip shot field goal at the end of regulation. Toledo is unbeaten and solidly in the Top 20.

Got blown out at Texas Tech. Worst performance of the year, albeit to a good team. Tech's only losses are to TCU and Baylor.

Lost to TCU by 24 after leading most of the first half. TCU is ranked #3 in the nation.

Lost at Baylor by 18 but played competitively after giving up a 35-0 lead and was actually in the game midway through the fourth quarter, trailing by two scores. Baylor is ranked #2 in the nation.

There are not many seniors making key contributions. Some of the brightest talent has two or three more seasons eligiblity after this one.

Remember, the point isn't whether this is the record of a good team. The point is whether this is the record that gets a coach fired. If this were the second or third year of the Rhoads regime, I don't think the subject would even be discussed. But it's year seven.

Personally, I think if ISU loses to Texas next Saturday, it probably means Rhoads is gone. I think beating Texas and one other team probably saves his job; beating Texas and two other teams definitely does.

Lol, is that a typo?

 

[Lone Clone]

Lol, is that a typo?

No. It was a mistake. Meant penalties, not turnovers. Good catch.