Watching the reverse gif of her pointing at her finger, putting her arm down and walking backwards away from CC would be instant gold.
If LSU played an ineligible player, what would the repercussions be?
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Their major is their sport. They are getting the best training they can to become pros just like the rest of us in our crappy jobs.
Our positions are similar. I disagreed with some of your hyperbole in the previous post.
I have wished for years that the NBA and NFL would develop a decent minor league system to give players that have no interest in college a choice. But now with NIL, that ship has sailed.
But without football and basketball, the other sports really don't have a chance. Iowa has seemingly unlimited money and they cut swimming? And even if women's basketball and wrestling could pay for themselves, will any teams be left for them to play?
It really is an incredibly complex situation - and one that should be avoided. I would prefer the current system be improved - not dismantled.
I don't WANT football and basketball to become professional, but I do agree that is the likely path.
I hope I’m wrong but I feel strongly if Angel were ineligible the powers that be at LSU would intervene to make it so it never happened and we would be none the wiser for it.
I think this is a slippery slope best left alone. The only concrete info out there is that LSU informed the Wooden Award committee that Resse was not eligible for their specific requirements, which are different than academic requirements of the NCAA, school, or conference. There is no way LSU is going to, probably legally even can't, release that info to the public or media. I know there's a lot of speculation out there, but it's just that.
Gotcha. Thanks for clarification. I agree, I don’t think we’re too far off.
I suspected your disagreement was largely due to my hyperbole. I can do that from time to time. I do think it’s a travesty that: 1) a large percentage of elite athletes in those sports have to pretend to be college students, and 2) universities have to perform academic gymnastics to maintain that facade. But I get the motivations for both parties. And I also am hesitant to paint with too broad a brush: there a some elite athletes who I’m sure are legitimate students, and as I’ve said, the vast majority of the rest certainly are. Degree programs are unquestionably valuable to them.
What do I want. As you say, it’s complex. I was on the Kinnick field after Houghtlin’s kick beat Michigan. I was in Carver after the basketball team returned from the regional final in ‘87. Cherished memories and experiences. I want to experience things like that again, and possibly even bigger ones. But at the same time, I want a system that best serves its primary stakeholders, and I have to admit that I’m pretty insignificant there as a stakeholder in terms of my personal wants and needs. The real stakeholders here are the athletes (and as you point out, ALL, not just revenue generating), and the universities. Perhaps you could make the argument that the status quo does the best job of serving the majority, but I don’t think there’s an argument that the best of the best are grossly underserved. As I’ve said, it makes no sense for many of them to align themselves with an institute of higher learning, and I believe it dilutes the mission of the university. Although the school obviously profits handsomely from that. Ultimately, I would like a system that serves the needs of all. Maybe that’s not possible.
The other closely associated elephant in the room here is the whole higher education model itself and its future. This is a system that is even worse at serving the needs of its stakeholders (kids taking on six figures of debt for careers that have no chance of providing the return for that investment). I believe this model is on the cusp of being blown up and that we will have other alternatives and far fewer traditional colleges and universities in the future, with obvious repercussions to college athletics. One thing though is that the only certain thing about the future is change. What it will look like is anyone’s guess.
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You might want to look at every colleges base requirements before you get too critical.
I wish someone could quantify the number of elite athletes that have no interest in college, but I think it's less than you think. Taking 12 hours of college classes doesn't seem like a hardship to me, and even if it's annoying or pointless for many kids, I don't think the system should be changed for them. It's easy to be jaded by the "we didn't come here to play school" crowd.
What we have today is the natural extension of a couple of decades of athletic departments making more money that is necessary. Coaches making $10 million. Training facilities better than 4 star hotels or country clubs. I have suggested that "less money" might extend college sports. Not less money coming in, but more money going to the General Fund of the school. A sort of internal "tax", where the bloated athletic departments (like Iowa) have to share a portion of there zillions with the school that made all things possible - use that money to control tuition, for example, for all students. But that was a pipe dream.
As flawed as it is today, I think what we have today is better than the model you suggest, even if it is inevitable.
I know this isn’t the point you’re trying to make here but wanted to point to Iowa’s academic standards for athletes (going back at least 10 years anyway), that all Iowa athletes when Fred Mims was here were required to take at least 14 hours a semester at minimum (even though 12 at minimum is required per NCAA).
If any LSU player was determined to be ineligible, there would probably be a congressional oversight committee to look into all the bad race factors that caused it to happen.
I’m just saying…. That is a tremendously low bar. Gaining 12-18 credits a year doesn’t even put you on pace to graduating in 5 years! Considering many of the athletes are getting their college paid for, that is a travesty.
I guess I'm in the minority here and think that if athletes are representing a university, they should be students with minimum GPAs and courses. Of course, many college will play that in a way that it means very little, but if can't qualify as "student athletes", I think they should enter the NBA developmental league, or whatever it is called.
If LSU played an ineligible player, the repercussions would be that they have to change the school’s name to The Ohio State University. Another repercussion is that the Big Ten Network would then replay all of their wins over and over and talk about how awesome they were.
