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If you’re honest with yourself, there’s not much to be optimistic about in basketball or football.

B-ball will have 14+ losses again this season. Recruiting remains very pedestrian.

Football, pedestrian recruiting and complete failure in the portal. 4-8 is the ceiling next season. Offense still sucks rabies infected moose ass.
On a positive note, I got a new kick ass tattoo this afternoon.

Why is everyone mad? Losing 27-24 seems respectable to me. What did I miss?
 
B-ball will have 14+ losses again this season. Recruiting remains very pedestrian.

Football, pedestrian recruiting and complete failure in the portal. 4-8 is the ceiling next season. Offense still sucks rabies infected moose ass.
Don’t forget wrestling. You have two, poorly dressed baboons gesticulating on the mat as Cael sucks away your soul.
 
B-ball will have 14+ losses again this season. Recruiting remains very pedestrian.

Football, pedestrian recruiting and complete failure in the portal. 4-8 is the ceiling next season. Offense still sucks rabies infected moose ass.
It's like eating store brand saltine crackers with nothing on them, and nothing to wash it down.
 
If you Lower your standards then both sport teams look pretty good. Both are around average to above average vs their B1G/P5 peers.
 
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If you Lower your standards then both sport teams look pretty good. Both are around average to above average vs their B1G/P5 peers.
This is exactly what we are: 25-35th ranked team in the country. Not going to win anything meaningful, won’t really lose to bad teams. Problem is in the 12-team playoff era that leads to apathy pretty darn quick if we no longer have anything to play for. At least playing in the Big 10 West we knew we could earn a birth to the conference championship, that doesn’t exist anymore.
 
This is exactly what we are: 25-35th ranked team in the country. Not going to win anything meaningful, won’t really lose to bad teams. Problem is in the 12-team playoff era that leads to apathy pretty darn quick if we no longer have anything to play for. At least playing in the Big 10 West we knew we could earn a birth to the conference championship, that doesn’t exist anymore.
I think that Iowa football is still a decent name brand and can be salvaged once The Captain beats the record / steps down. We have not been relevant in basketball in 40 years….
 
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B-ball will have 14+ losses again this season. Recruiting remains very pedestrian.

Football, pedestrian recruiting and complete failure in the portal. 4-8 is the ceiling next season. Offense still sucks rabies infected moose ass.
I’m actually somewhat optimistic about the men’s hoops team this year.
 
B-ball will have 14+ losses again this season. Recruiting remains very pedestrian.

Football, pedestrian recruiting and complete failure in the portal. 4-8 is the ceiling next season. Offense still sucks rabies infected moose ass.
I dunno..basketball beat the shite outta powerhouse New Hampshire tonight! Riveting stuff!!

I hate hate hate admitting this. I’ve been a die hard fan and hardcore supporter of KF for a long time. But the thread title is correct…there is nothing that has me optimistic that better days or anything exciting is ahead for either sport.
 
15 long years with Fran at the helm. JFC. Why does a coach at Iowa have to run their program down to Lickliter-awful to be considered for replacement?
You answered your own question. Because the administration is afraid of being Lickliter awful. Everyone points to the Davis to Alford transition as the reason to never try again.

I still support that move btw. Iowa basketball had plateaued under Davis but still had life. Alford was THE hot coach. Brought back a lot of energy. It didn’t work obviously but they at least were thinking bigger than top half of the conference.
 
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B-ball will have 14+ losses again this season. Recruiting remains very pedestrian.

Football, pedestrian recruiting and complete failure in the portal. 4-8 is the ceiling next season. Offense still sucks rabies infected moose ass.
4-8 with a lot of luck … this team will be complete dog shit
 
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We live in Iowa, we have basically accepted being mediocre. We used to have great schools but we tossed that away. We used to have great infrastructure, water resources, public spaces - all in our past. Not sure why, but Iowa isn’t the same and we just can’t compete anymore. Unsurprisingly it’s reflected in our athletics because we are a poor state that can’t compete with wealthier locales.
 
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We live in Iowa, we have basically accepted being mediocre. We used to have great schools but we tossed that away. We used to have great infrastructure, water resources, public spaces - all in our past. Not sure why, but Iowa isn’t the same and we just can’t compete anymore. Unsurprisingly it’s reflected in our athletics because we are a poor state that can’t compete with wealthier locales.
People realized they don't absolutely have to live in shit weather four months out of the year.
 
I guess Ames is a tropical paradise???? They have a top 15 football team and a top 5 basketball team. We have shit 1 and shit 2.
Football is all that matters, and they're a flash in the pan.

I'm a bigger basketball fan, FWIW, but football pays all the bills and has a lot more cache'.
 
Fran and Kirk should not be mentioned in the same breathe , Kirk has won Huge Games late , Fran has how many total NCAA Tourney game wins, Fran has had nearly 2 Decades . Fran should have been fired long ago, Kirk has reached the same point as Fry did late in His tenure, I would hope for everyones sake at the end of next Season He turns over the keys to a Younger hungry Coach , Iowa has the built success and program success in football of a top 30 Program , Fry and Kirk built that , Fran has done absolutely nothing to even be compared to Iowa football . Beth needs to get the next 2 hires right .
 
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You answered your own question. Because the administration is afraid of being Lickliter awful. Everyone points to the Davis to Alford transition as the reason to never try again.

I still support that move btw. Iowa basketball had plateaued under Davis but still had life. Alford was THE hot coach. Brought back a lot of energy. It didn’t work obviously but they at least were thinking bigger than top half of the conference.
That’s awesome. We had a bad hire once 20 years ago, so now we’ve learned our lesson - never get rid of a coach who doesn’t finish dead last for multiple seasons in a row or isn’t quite 95 years old.
 
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