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I'm for us putting a Haydenesque type beatdown on the Cyclones Saturday

Something like 63-20, 57-3, 51-10 or 59-21. I would even accept a 43-7 or 48-9.

Kirk did piss-pound ISU by a 42-3 margin in 2016 so he has it in him.

Thank Brian. I think we see 45-21 type of ballgame out of the Hawks this Saturday due to Brian scoring it up and the D getting a score.
 
38-21 Hawks. I see a close game at half, but Iowa crushes the Clones manhood by pounding the ball and taking control in the second half. This is usually what happens when Iowa wins anyway.
Wouldn't this assume they actually have manhood? Look no further than their clown AD for their model of "manhood."
 
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yep hawks could win 73-3 but ole kirk takes it easy on them and wins 48-17
 
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38-21 Hawks. I see a close game at half, but Iowa crushes the Clones manhood by pounding the ball and taking control in the second half. This is usually what happens when Iowa wins anyway.
I'm seeing this as a very likely sort of scenario. If it doesn't play out like we're anticipating ... I would otherwise see it as an uncomfortably close affair. A lot will depend on our D (particularly stopping the run) ... and also on our passing game (if we actually have one). If those 2 boxes are both checked ... then I'll quickly become much more confident about the outcome of the game.
 
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"Hope we didn't hurt any of your boyz"
 
38-21 Hawks. I see a close game at half, but Iowa crushes the Clones manhood by pounding the ball and taking control in the second half. This is usually what happens when Iowa wins anyway.

I am actually thinking it might go the other way. In fact... hoping that we can get a lead at half by 14-17. It is a rivalry game but ISU has to shake the rust out that their few plays won't get them prepared for. Then I think the game will be really even in the 2nd half with us being a hair tired/beat up from a hot day against NIU.
 
... A lot will depend on our D (particularly stopping the run) ... and also on our passing game (if we actually have one). If those 2 boxes are both checked ... then I'll quickly become much more confident about the outcome of the game.

Based on the one game we've played, the niu RBs generated ~6ypc on 24 carries -- moroever, all 3 of their RBs were effective and a single long run did not skew the stat. Their OL really did handle our DL and lbs in the run game.
Surprisingly, the passing game stat for Iowa is actually respectable 13 receptions for 143 (11ypc) -- the 2(?) receiver drops have made it appear worse.
 
Based on the one game we've played, the niu RBs generated ~6ypc on 24 carries -- moroever, all 3 of their RBs were effective and a single long run did not skew the stat. Their OL really did handle our DL and lbs in the run game.
Surprisingly, the passing game stat for Iowa is actually respectable 13 receptions for 143 (11ypc) -- the 2(?) receiver drops have made it appear worse.
From what I recall, a lot of those runs were right immediately on the outside of a DE who was crashing in. Do you know who is supposed to have gap responsibility in those cases? Who is suppose to set the edge? I'm surprised that the DE would do that unless he expected that someone else needed to set the edge ... and someone was supposed to fill the gap immediately to the outside of him.

I would imagine that part of what Iowa was doing there was reflective of their desire to take away the QB run. The problem when you're defending a mobile QB who can option to run it himself ... that leaves an extra gap that the defense has to defend. Often, when you have a LB like Josey Jewell ... you just use a LB to spy the QB. However, since we are breaking in newbies at LB and because Phil likely wanted to keep the guys in our base ... we had to make due with adjustments that could be made from our base D.

The bigger worry we should have is that we'd better clean up our run D when defending a mobile QB ... because we're going to face some good ones when we face Maryland. Also, Northwestern's backup QB seems to have decent mobility too.
 
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iSU is going to stack the box more than NIU did. We are going to have to go to the air more in the first half to counter that. Stanley and the we corps are going to have to step it up. 2nd half, the Hawks ground game will break out. ISU is starting a freshman center and maybe at mlb.
 
38-21 Hawks. I see a close game at half, but Iowa crushes the Clones manhood by pounding the ball and taking control in the second half. This is usually what happens when Iowa wins anyway.
If it's close at the half, I'll go with ISU. Cyclones will be playing their first half of football -- reasonable to think they'll have some kinks similar to those the Hawks had in the first half last week. If Iowa can't jump out to a significant advantage, I don't like Iowa's chances to win.
 
I really don't know what to think. It seems like the potential for Iowa to be really good on both offensive and d lines is there and if that's the case then that usually means a good season for Iowa.
That said middle LBer is one of the most concerning areas for Iowa and I think ISU is really well equipped to exploit that flaw. I suspect Montgomery is going to run the ball well. I think there will be a lot of bending and hopefully not much breaking. It may me the type of game where ISU moves the ball well but I'm hoping that Iowa forces them to grind and eventually either the d-line makes a play or forces a mistake to kill the drive.
 
If it's close at the half, I'll go with ISU. Cyclones will be playing their first half of football -- reasonable to think they'll have some kinks similar to those the Hawks had in the first half last week. If Iowa can't jump out to a significant advantage, I don't like Iowa's chances to win.
That fantasy worked out well for NIU, didn't it?
 
If Iowa can't jump out to a significant advantage, I don't like Iowa's chances to win.

Are you talking about the same Iowa team that has outscored it's last 3 opponents by 79 points in the 2nd half, and an Iowa St team that is net -7 points in the 2nd half their last 4 games? Just wondering.
 
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If it's close at the half, I'll go with ISU. Cyclones will be playing their first half of football -- reasonable to think they'll have some kinks similar to those the Hawks had in the first half last week. If Iowa can't jump out to a significant advantage, I don't like Iowa's chances to win.

Except statistically Iowa is best in the 2nd half, particularly the 4th Quarter. Was the case last season and certainly was last Saturday.
 
As much as I appreciate the sentiments...I suspect this is going to be a really tough game for Iowa.

The lines must "crush kill destroy" Saturday. Keep Stanley clean to find receivers, plow holes early and often for the running game. Then on defense, the Iowa d-line must get to Kempt all game long while not allowing Montgomery to bust loose.

For Iowa to win, they must win both trenches all game long.
 
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I think this is the year of the beatdown for Iowa State for a few reasons.

First of all, Kyle Kempt has not shown that he is the kind of QB who can hit gaps in zone coverage like Jacob Park did last year, consistently. ISU’s staff smartly dumbed down the offense to hide his weaknesses, particularly with throws that take arm strength like posts and outs for example, and added lots of horizontal components like throwing in the flat to Montgomery or throwing WR screens. ISU’s offense slowed down a lot and turned quite a few contests into defensive slugfests they often won by a possession or two by not turning the ball over.

Considering Iowa’s defensive prowess here, the goal in this game is for Iowa’s defense to simply do what it takes to stop David Montgomery and ultimately just build a lead in the beginning stages of the game. Do that and Iowa State will fold big time. I think Iowa has the personnel advantage big time to stop ISU’s running game and the only reason its considered by some to be a toss up is simply due to Montgomery being an outstanding back. If this team has to pass first it will result in lots of turnovers and sacks for Iowa.

On offense, we need to have consistency in the run game to blow it open. Lima and the ISU Dline are very overrated - I thought that big 12 OC’s made big mistakes in not sticking consistently with the run games in several contests as they racked up good YPC numbers. Our interior line clearly showed improvement and consistency against NIU and our OC showed the inventiveness on O to punish NIU’s gap schemes too.
 
Well sure, if I have a choice I'll take the Hawks getting a 50+ point win.

Don't see it happening. More likely it's a 10 point game either way.

But if you're handing out wishes I'm open to a winning Powerball ticket.
 
This game is so weird. The mental side of things is fascinating. This was 44-41 in OT last year and there were maybe 500 total yards yesterday? A few fresh faces on both teams, but also a lot of experience back.
 
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