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Immigrants Arrested at Phoenix Greyhound Station (NYC Fugitives)

Thanks. You actually came through. They are looking after their interests, and there's no surprise there. I seriously doubt they care about the $98B that has nothing to do with the border, or any other of the details that make the bill a failure.
Always an excuse. This was better than nothing by a long ways. Most of the items in there were Republican demands. The puppet Speaker demanded border addressed for Ukraine bill and now they pull this. The border is just a prop for them and we just screwed our ally. This The Republican way.
 
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LOL. You're missing the point. YOUR PARTY has been crying about the border since Biden took over. HERE IS YOUR PARTY'S CHANCE to fix it. Nope. Can't do it. This is what you've been begging for. A Republican created bill. Biden will sign it. Dear Leader says no. This isn't going to pass for only one reason - Donald Trump cares more about himself than the border. He cares more about himself than ANYTHING or ANYONE. Most of us know this. You're going to vote for him anyway. You got conned.

Figure this stuff out...it's not difficult.
The bill they're proposing does nothing to make the border more secure. It's an attempt by Dems to create a talking point that "we tried but Rs don't want to fix the border."

The media will bury the reasons why Rs wouldn't sign on. Simple, repeatable formula.
 
The bill they're proposing does nothing to make the border more secure. It's an attempt by Dems to create a talking point that "we tried but Rs don't want to fix the border."

The media will bury the reasons why Rs wouldn't sign on. Simple, repeatable formula.
The Republican architects of this bill are surely playing a dimension of chess our puny human brains can't comprehend.

This thread is an exercise in MAGA logic.
 
Always an excuse. This was better than nothing by a long ways. Most of the items in there were Republican demands. The puppet Speaker demanded border addressed for Ukraine bill and now they pull this. The border is just a prop for them and we just screwed our ally. This The Republican way.
No, it's not better than nothing. The House gave the Senate a bill to work from 8 months ago that addresses our border. The Senate sabotaged this by tying it to Ukraine, Israel, and all the slush fund provisions amounting to billions of dollars that will have to be borrowed. Meanwhile, Biden created part of the problem with his day one executive orders. If Biden wants to solve the problem, he can ask his buddies in the Senate to work with the House on a specific bill like the one they already passed.
 
The Republican architects of this bill are surely playing a dimension of chess our puny human brains can't comprehend.

This thread is an exercise in MAGA logic.
This thread was a report on immigrants involved in the attack on two NYC police officers being arrested in Phoenix after fleeing NY.

Someone turned it into a back and forth on the proposed legislation @Tom Paris
 
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Maybe it's horrible. Maybe it's great. But it came from republicans and democrats, and the mexican border patrol seems to be in favor of it passing. It seems the only people I have heard speak out against it are you and Trump.
The Border Union Rep announced they are for it.

How about we get some feedback from those that actually do patrol the border. There is a difference.
 
The Border Union Rep announced they are for it.

How about we get some feedback from those that actually do patrol the border. There is a difference.
That said, The Speaker not even willing to debate the Bill and possibly add amendments and send it back to the Senate is going to politically hurt the GOP in about nine months.

It’s not like they haven’t shot themselves in the foot many times before.
 
The Border Union Rep announced they are for it.

How about we get some feedback from those that actually do patrol the border. There is a difference.
There's lots of feedback in the news from the rank and file. Most of those news sources are ridiculed here though. That doesn't even include the obvious right wing sources.
 
There's lots of feedback in the news from the rank and file. Most of those news sources are ridiculed here though. That doesn't even include the obvious right wing sources.
There are good things in the bill. The house should try to tweak it, vote, and send it back to the senate. Then Schumer will say DOA.

They won’t because Trump can’t run on it. That much is 100% true. But the bill could have and should have gone further.
 
Brand their foreheads and release them across the border. If caught on US soil again, shoot on sight.
 

Several migrants suspected of attacking 2 NYPD officers reportedly arrested in Arizona​

Local news is now reporting the migrants detained in Phoenix were not the same ones that assaulted the police officers in NYC.
 
No, it's not better than nothing. The House gave the Senate a bill to work from 8 months ago that addresses our border. The Senate sabotaged this by tying it to Ukraine, Israel, and all the slush fund provisions amounting to billions of dollars that will have to be borrowed. Meanwhile, Biden created part of the problem with his day one executive orders. If Biden wants to solve the problem, he can ask his buddies in the Senate to work with the House on a specific bill like the one they already passed.
You have gone deep down the rabbit hole. You've been spiralling downward for awhile but I think you might be at the bottom of the hole.
 
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There are good things in the bill. The house should try to tweak it, vote, and send it back to the senate. Then Schumer will say DOA.

They won’t because Trump can’t run on it. That much is 100% true. But the bill could have and should have gone further.
The number of good things in the bill are far outweighed by the bad. So-called aid to Ukraine is 4 times more than US border security. Putting in triggers than can be ignored by the POTUS is just asinine. The trigger levels themselves are asinine.
 
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Democrats own the border crisis 100%. No legislation is required, joe biden and his executive orders are the root cause and could be reversed immediately. Leftist policy encourages not only illegal migration but also physical violence as well. Nonwonder the police association union endorsed trump yesterday.
 
I think they should be released on the White House grounds.
They were “released” by a NYC DA…..nothing to do with the Feds….but dont let facts interfere with your agenda driven story. This issues=e is a State of NY problem and will resolved at that level.
You are just not very smart most of the time, Finance. However, you are agenda driven. How’s Vladimir doing today?
 
You don't have a clue as to what party I belong to, even though it's been stated numerous times.

My party isn't in charge of anything at the federal level.

It's a horrible bill. If you think differently, please point out the section of the bill that's good, and tell us why it's good. Section or page number will do. Cutting and pasting from media reports will just prove you don't know what you are talking about.

It's horrible, it's not even close to great, some republicans are idiots, some democrats are idiots, and it provides the border patrol with a significant increase in pay...

The bill they're proposing does nothing to make the border more secure. It's an attempt by Dems to create a talking point that "we tried but Rs don't want to fix the border."

The media will bury the reasons why Rs wouldn't sign on. Simple, repeatable formula.

No, it's not better than nothing. The House gave the Senate a bill to work from 8 months ago that addresses our border. The Senate sabotaged this by tying it to Ukraine, Israel, and all the slush fund provisions amounting to billions of dollars that will have to be borrowed. Meanwhile, Biden created part of the problem with his day one executive orders. If Biden wants to solve the problem, he can ask his buddies in the Senate to work with the House on a specific bill like the one they already passed.

Typical. Just it’s bad but no specifics as to why this particular bill won’t improve the immigration system. It’s Trumpism speech. Brilliant.

I’m actually aware of many elements within the bill that will improve the immigration situation. You have to start somewhere unless your plan is just to obstruct.

Perhaps it’s time to pivot to bipartisan collaboration. The alternative is pure political theater and inaction. The adults in the room recognize the necessity of compromise while the simpletons wail and insist on unilateral control and that’s not happening.
 
It's horrible, it's not even close to great, some republicans are idiots, some democrats are idiots, and it provides the border patrol with a significant increase in pay...

Obsession!
 
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