In Lickliter news...
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Izzo loved him some Todd Lickliter.
Hey Tom, if Lick was so great why didn't you put him on your staff when he became avalable ?
Hey Tom, if Lick was so great why didn't you put him on your staff when he became avalable ?
Wow..I dont even remember Jeff Peterson playing for Iowa. That is how bad that era was.
What did Lick do to piss of Ill HS coaches?
What did Lick do to piss of Ill HS coaches?
I'm probably misremembering what actually occurred, but I always thought there was something personal between David Palmer and Lickliter. Seemed as though he rode the bench for a number of games and then, when given a chance, strung together two or three pretty darn good games, and then returned to the bench and got very little playing time.
Lick hated talent. Palmer got a chance and scored 20 or more in consecutive games and looked decent. Then he was benched and hardly played after that. He couldn't run off Freeman fast enough. He was an absolute program killer.
Lick also inherited Tyler Smith but didn’t even bother to talk or meet with him and of course Tyler left.
You mean the guy that delivered our last btt championship and highest NCAA seed since 87 in his second to last season? No. Not saying alford wasn't an ass or that we were in great spot after 07 but Lick is the guy who gutted the program. Alford didn't run off Tony Freeman who was a good player or let John Lick on team (not to mention play him!!!). If Gatens wasn't local lick wouldn't have even landed him. Yes, Lick is an okay guy but dreadful basketball coach and recruiter post Stevens
I thought about putting T Smith in there, but my thought was that he was gone regardless. Knowing how Smith’s career played out, probably a blessing for Iowa.
2 things that didn't help Lick was first his staff he assembled was inexperienced especially when he Stevens didn't come to IC and lacked the necessary recruiting relationships. Granted Lavell Jordan is now the Butler HC but he spent time on Beilen's staff at Michigan after being at Iowa. The second is he made zero effort to connect with the AAU coaches and have any sort of relationships with them which in today's age of college bball is a must do.
Lick actually somehow someway seems to be turning it around. Won a couple of non con games, split with Southern Illinois at Southern, who was undefeated, and now beat the purple kitty cats. Who would have thought?
UNI (who Iowa is definitely afraid to play,) is unimaginably horrible since Green got hurt, and went Ofer from three. He is not turning anything around.
I wouldn't say afraid to play, just doesn't want a home and home.
Uh, yes he is. They aren’t winning the conference or anything but they were 0-18 in the league last year. He’s won 4 game so far this year and he’s 2-1 in the league. Tough shit for UNI that Green is out. They should still be better than Evansville.
Lickliter was good for some laughs and head scratching decisions. Running off Freeman was the 1st red flag.
During LIckliter's last year, I remember watching multiple games Iowa would score less than 20 points in a half playing slow ball. Even at slow pace, they still managed to be down 20 points at the half. Lickliter B-ball teams were good for a 2nd half snooze...you wouldn't miss anything but the other team playing scrubs to rest their team for next opponent. Lil Lick was the only guy in B1G that made Cully Payne look like a legit B1G PG in comparison.
Poor Gatens got the shaft for most of his career. He was only B1G player on the squad at the end. Give Gatens and his Father credit...they threatened to transfer and brought LIck down..Barta was going to stick with Lickliter another season.
Izzo came out in support of Lickliter after he was fired...lost all respect for Izzo...he basically said Iowa fans should be happy with Lickliter because that was all the better the program could be.
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During LIckliter's last year, I remember watching multiple games Iowa would score less than 20 points in a half playing slow ball. Even at slow pace, they still managed to be down 20 points at the half. Lickliter B-ball teams were good for a 2nd half snooze...you wouldn't miss anything but the other team playing scrubs to rest their team for next opponent. Lil Lick was the only guy in B1G that made Cully Payne look like a legit B1G PG in comparison.
Poor Gatens got the shaft for most of his career. He was only B1G player on the squad at the end. Give Gatens and his Father credit...they threatened to transfer and brought LIck down..Barta was going to stick with Lickliter another season.
Izzo came out in support of Lickliter after he was fired...lost all respect for Izzo...he basically said Iowa fans should be happy with Lickliter because that was all the better the program could be.
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My God, this guy is still coaching Division I? Wtf was Evansville thinking?
Yeah, after listening to Izzo in that presser - you would have thought one of his family members had passed away!
I too lost all respect for Izzo after that...
Why? Do you feel he gave his all at Iowa. I saw a guy who made no effort recruiting or try to develop relationship with his players. He freaking mailed it in
I don't wish him bad luck, but IF Lickliter were a Ninja, he would have done hari kari suicide and returned the buyout money after reviewing the coaching job he gave Iowa fans.
The last 7 minutes were competitive, 15-11. A sign of good coaching, they didn't give up!
It's hard to believe that in a basketball crazy state like Indiana that Evansville is so bad. I think their decline started when they canned the shirt jerseys and went mainstream with actual jerseys. One would think there is still plenty of talent left in the state even after Purdue, Indiana, Notre Dame, Butler and others get theirs.
That about what it looks like.Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!!!
I understand where you are coming from but Iowa made him a very rich man and he buried the basketball program.
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Well, to be fair, he said it would take seven years to turn it around at Iowa. Maybe it will take longer at Evansville. Keep eating those jellybeans and running off your best player every year........
I met him once at an AAU tournament in Houston at Westfield High right after he got the job. Seemed to be a decent guy. I asked him if he bought Alfords house. He just laughed. But one of the assistants he brought with him was clearly out of his league. The same day I met Tubby Smith who I believe had just got hired by Minnesota
He not only thoroughly pissed off the AAU in Iowa, he also alienated the Chicago School coaches with the way he treated Freeman, especially Gene Pingatore, who was a legend in Illinois.
