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In San Francisco, a Sinking Skyscraper and a Deepening Dispute

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The developers of the luxurious Millennium Tower laid out the risks and potential defects of the 58-story building in minute detail when its apartments went on sale seven years ago.

The color and texture of the marble and granite hallways “may not be completely uniform,” said a disclosure statement given to potential buyers. The streets below the tower could be “congested and noisy,” and the landscaping in the common areas could change, subject to availability of certain species of plants.

But the 21-page disclosure document left out what owners of units in the buildings now say was a crucial detail: that the building had already sunk more than eight inches into the soft soil by the time it was completed in 2009, much more than engineers had anticipated.

“If they had disclosed the defect, I would have never bought here,” said Jerry Dodson, the owner of a two-bedroom apartment on the 42nd floor that he bought with his wife for $2.1 million. “Never was there a hint that the building was sinking beyond design.”

The Millennium Tower, which its developers say is the largest reinforced concrete building in the western United States, has now sunk about 16 inches and is leaning six inches toward a neighboring skyscraper. The building’s tilt has become a public scandal, a dispute that has produced a wide-eyed examination of whether or not San Francisco’s frenetic skyscraper-building spree was properly monitored by city authorities. In a city bracketed by two major earthquake fault lines, the possibility of engineering flaws generates particular unease.

“This is the first sentinel telling us maybe we should be a little more careful,” said Nicholas Sitar, a professor of civil engineering at the University of California, Berkeley, who specializes in how buildings respond to earthquakes. “Any time you have a tall structure leaning, you have to start looking very carefully.”

As the scandal has unfolded in recent weeks, Senator Dianne Feinstein, a former mayor of San Francisco, wrote to the current mayor, Edwin M. Lee, expressing concern about the number of buildings like Millennium Tower that are not anchored in bedrock.

Mr. Lee responded that he had instructed city officials to amend the city’s earthquake safety plan to require a review of soil conditions and mandatory earthquake evaluations during property sales. At a hearing on Thursday convened by a Board of Supervisors committee, city officials said the Millennium Tower situation had caused them to reassess the way buildings are vetted.

The building spree in San Francisco has taken place for the most part in an area that used to be part of San Francisco Bay, land created using dredged soil as well as piles of detritus from the 1906 earthquake.

Professor Sitar calls the soil conditions “very challenging” for engineers, especially when compared to the Manhattan schist that anchors New York’s skyscrapers.

“For a long time you didn’t see very tall structures in San Francisco,” Professor Sitar said. With advances in engineering and by studying responses of buildings in earthquake zones, he said, engineers have grown more confident. “Is that confidence warranted? To some extent it is. At that the same time, there has to be an abundance of caution.”

Outside the living room of Mr. Dodson’s apartment is a panorama of this new San Francisco, the collection of skyscrapers that are partly a byproduct of the technology boom and the foreign money pouring into luxury condominium buildings. The Millennium Tower sits across from the Salesforce Tower, which when completed will be the tallest structure in San Francisco.

Mr. Dodson is helping to organize a number of the owners of the more than 400 units to demand compensation from the developers, Millennium Partners.

“City officials have said it’s at a critical point right now,” Mr. Dodson said of the building. He said the sewage connections to the building may no longer function properly if it continues to sink. And engineers fear that the building’s high-speed elevators may fail if the building tilts farther, he said. He fears that if it continues to tilt, it may become unlivable.

A government agency, the Transbay Joint Powers Authority, that is building a transportation hub next to the Millennium Tower said the sinking and tilt of the building are due “exclusively to the deficient foundation system” of Millennium Tower.

Millennium Partners, after a long period of silence, told reporters this week that while their own removal of groundwater had been responsible for the initial sinking of the building, the subsequent sinking was caused by the digging next door at the transportation hub.

Chris Jeffries, a founding partner of Millennium Partners, blamed the “reckless behavior” of the Transbay Joint Powers Authority.

At the hearings on Thursday, city officials were asked why correspondence with the engineers of the Millennium Tower project had disappeared from files. A city official replied that they were not required to keep them.

Hanson Tom, the city’s principal engineer, said that at the time Millennium Tower was being constructed the developers had not agreed to a review by outside experts on the soil conditions or the foundations of the building and that the city had no laws to compel them to conduct these reviews.

The city was not prepared to assess the structural integrity of the Millennium Tower because it was one of the first skyscrapers erected in the business district, officials said.

“We didn’t have anything in place from a regulatory perspective on how to deal with buildings of this nature,” said Ronald Tom, the deputy director of the city’s department of building inspection.

The city now relies on outside experts to verify the structural integrity of proposed skyscrapers because they do not have the technology to verify the computer models used by developers.

But the hearing on Thursday did not clarify why city officials had declared the building safe for occupancy despite the problems with the foundation. Aaron Peskin, the San Francisco supervisor who called Thursday’s hearing, said the inquiry would continue in the coming weeks.

The tilting tower has produced introspection among engineers in part because when the building was completed the developers received at least nine awards for “excellence in structural engineering,” among other citations.

Mr. Dodson’s wife, Pat, said one of the possible solutions proposed by an engineer who homeowners have consulted is to lessen the weight of the building by lopping off the top 20 floors.

Today, the only beneficiaries of the Millennium Tower appear to be the armies of lawyers mobilizing for what is expected to be years of litigation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/23/u...column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
 
Cool! A snapshot of what things will look like when we 'eliminate' regulations and just let the free market, combined with a bunch of lawyers dictate our building codes and engineering safety assessments!

America's own Leaning Tower of Pisa. They need to put an Italian Bistro in that place, so it can be America's Leaning Tower of Pizza. GREAT marketing opp!
 
Cool! A snapshot of what things will look like when we 'eliminate' regulations and just let the free market, combined with a bunch of lawyers dictate our building codes and engineering safety assessments!

America's own Leaning Tower of Pisa. They need to put an Italian Bistro in that place, so it can be America's Leaning Tower of Pizza. GREAT marketing opp!

Trump said yesterday that he wants to remove many of the regulations, but not EPA or Safety

Just repeating what he said..
 
Trump said yesterday that he wants to remove many of the regulations, but not EPA or Safety

Just repeating what he said..

Depends on your definition of 'safety'.

For example, IF the farm tiling around Iowa were to pose a greater flood 'safety' risk (although it does not appear to), then it's safety related. But you'll have people arguing forever on whether it's a 'safety issue' or not...
 
Depends on your definition of 'safety'.

For example, IF the farm tiling around Iowa were to pose a greater flood 'safety' risk (although it does not appear to), then it's safety related. But you'll have people arguing forever on whether it's a 'safety issue' or not...

Oh I'm not saying he's going to follow through what he said. In fact, I'm certain it's just gibberish to get elected.
 
Sounds like a local issue. At the very most a state issue.

I don't understand why people want the Feds involved with everything.

State and local governments should have their own building codes and that is where it should end.

That goes for education also. If you don't like your schools get involved or move. If you think the solution is a few billion dollars worth of pencil pushers in Washington than I just laugh at you.
 
Sounds like a local issue. At the very most a state issue.

I don't understand why people want the Feds involved with everything.

State and local governments should have their own building codes and that is where it should end.

That goes for education also. If you don't like your schools get involved or move. If you think the solution is a few billion dollars worth of pencil pushers in Washington than I just laugh at you.


Well, such stereotyping and shallow thinking seems to fit in well with your usual poor assessment of most situations that you've demonstrated on here.
 
Well, such stereotyping and shallow thinking seems to fit in well with your usual poor assessment of most situations that you've demonstrated on here.

If you don't want to trust local and state agencies I am fine with that. Get rid of all of them and have everything go through the Feds.

If you don't trust the local and state agencies but you still want to keep them I will continue to laugh.
 
Sounds like a local issue. At the very most a state issue.

I don't understand why people want the Feds involved with everything.

I don't think 'regulations' implies just Federal. Simply pointing out that a lack of oversight/regulation in this case is a snapshot of what things may look like if we naively presume 'free market principles' can fix everything.
 
I don't think 'regulations' implies just Federal. Simply pointing out that a lack of oversight/regulation in this case is a snapshot of what things may look like if we naively presume 'free market principles' can fix everything.

But people jump all over trump for wanting to end federal duties because the boogie man will come. Truth is state and local safeguards are already in place. Getting rid of redundancy is a good and necessary thing. We don't have the money.
 
But people jump all over trump for wanting to end federal duties because the boogie man will come. Truth is state and local safeguards are already in place. Getting rid of redundancy is a good and necessary thing. We don't have the money.

That works for some things, but when the externalized costs of something are borne by people out of the local area or state, it practically has to be a federally regulated element. In this case, the Leaning Tower of Pizza, it is probably more appropriate to be a local/state reg.
 
That works for some things, but when the externalized costs of something are borne by people out of the local area or state, it practically has to be a federally regulated element. In this case, the Leaning Tower of Pizza, it is probably more appropriate to be a local/state reg.

Did the Feds look at this building? Should they have? Do they have experts better than the locals that live there? Would it have help if the Feds looked?

What is your solution or do you just want to continue incompetence at the local stay level but continue to pay them so we can all have jobs?

Seems to me builders should have insurance to ensure the structure is save for X amount of years and if that time period has passed tough shit. If they couldn't afford this type of insurance than don't build.

If the local and state guys were out of their league when this plan came through it is on them to get help and don't just white wash it through.

I fail to see how more money solves this when making people do their jobs would.
 
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I have turned down several construction projects because of my personal fears of the stability of the soil, etc. In spite of the assurance that the city approved the site for construction. It's just not worth the risk. I've seen million dollar homes slide 80' down hillsides after heavy rains.
Building a skyscraper in a notorious earthquake zone? The term "dick-brained" comes to mind. Followed closely by "bankrupt".
 
The first major earthquake in that area the skyscrapers will come tumbling down like dominoes with that skyscraper being the first to fall. Time to tear it down because it is a safety hazard now.
 
Cool! A snapshot of what things will look like when we 'eliminate' regulations and just let the free market, combined with a bunch of lawyers dictate our building codes and engineering safety assessments!

America's own Leaning Tower of Pisa. They need to put an Italian Bistro in that place, so it can be America's Leaning Tower of Pizza. GREAT marketing opp!
We need a regulation on not building skyscrapers that sink?
 
You're sayings SF has less stringent building codes than Iowa City? Hard to believe.

Soils are covered in the uniform building code Chapter 29, pages 468 - 476. 700 pages in the Uniform Building Code.

Yes, this is a totally unregulated area.

:rolleyes:;):p
 
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We need a regulation on not building skyscrapers that sink?

You need a regulation on proper soil analysis to ensure it'll support the building weight. If not, then you need to dig/drill down to bedrock to put in concrete supports that will funnel most of the building's weight/mass directly into the solid bedrock.

That regulation doesn't need to 'require' anything more than an independent engineering analysis from a licensed firm; the civil engineers will determine which analyses are appropriate to the area. But, maybe they do need more stringent regs in that area....all these builders need to do is declare bankruptcy, and every owner in the building is left high and dry.
 
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