Sounds like not much gained for the established starters, but worthwhile to establish where some others are at with their development. It would seem Holloway and Wilcke could only benefit from getting matches up at there new weights. I'm guessing we don't hear much more clamoring on this board for St. John to be Iowa's starter at 165. As stated it's pull the Bull shirt or Gunther all year. I gotta imagine Brands must absolutely lose his mind on Meyer behind closed doors. How he is at the level he is at and has such a seemingly lackadaisical offensive attitude is beyond me.