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Iowa kids aren’t buying the red state agenda

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Linn-Mar High School juniors Briana Clymer (left) and Dragon Zheng attend a student-led walkout at Linn-Mar High School in Marion, Iowa, on Wednesday, March 1, 2023. Students from schools across the state walked out to protect anti-LGBTQ+ legislation working its way through the Iowa Legislature. (Jim Slosiarek/The Gazette) Linn-Mar High School juniors Briana Clymer (left) and Dragon Zheng attend a student-led walkout at Linn-Mar High School in Marion, Iowa, on Wednesday, March 1, 2023. Students from schools across the state walked out to protect anti-LGBTQ+ legislation working its way through the Iowa Legislature. (Jim Slosiarek/The Gazette)

Individual acts of civil disobedience can be more powerful than a protest drawing hundreds of people, especially now when social media can deliver the message to a massive audience.

That’s what happened Sunday when three Iowa high school seniors received recognition for being Governor’s Scholars, which included getting a photo taken with Gov. Kim Reynolds and Lt. Gov. Adam Gregg.

One student, identified as Newton senior Leo Friedman by the Des Moines Register, walked on stage wearing T-shirt proclaiming, “I Read Banned Books.” Another Newton Senior, identified by the Register as Marin Pettigrew, sported a shirt that said, “Public Money for Public Schools.”

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Davenport West senior Clementine Springsteen, a transgender woman who wore a transgender flag tie to the ceremony, shook Reynolds’ and Gregg’s hands and paused for the photo. Then, as she began to walk away, Springsteen shouted “Trans rights are human rights!”

Fact check: True.

The governor has signed bills denying gender-affirming care to transgender kids, even with parental permission, and barring them from using bathrooms corresponding to their gender identity. She has pushed for banning books and transferring hundreds of millions of dollars in public money to private schools.

She had little reaction to the students. But Reynolds didn’t look as pleased as her photo on those anti-trans koozies.

Of course, within hours, videos of the students were everywhere.

But there have also been some of those big protests. In March, hundreds of students in more than 40 Iowa school districts walked out of classes to protest Republicans anti LGBTQ agenda. Last month, dozens of students came to the Capitol to protest a bill that would permit guns secured in vehicles in school parking lots.




So what’s up with these kids? Don’t they know these bills are supposed to keep them safe and protect their innocence?


Well, these kids aren’t buying it. For one thing, they know what’s happening in their schools far better than the governor, GOP lawmakers and even their parents. They know their transgender classmates are not a threat. They know that school shootings are.


They know their teachers are not focused on sinister liberal indoctrination or any of the other crackpot caricatures of public education created by Reynolds her allies.


Those are culture war relics created and clung to by older Iowans fearful of the future. But the future belongs to these kids, and they’re not interested in old fears. They’re going to live in the real world, not the fake one conjured up by conservatives to win elections and grab power.


It’s too bad they may not live in Iowa. Republicans are burning up the state’s future with their fire and brimstone agenda. Many will want to work in jobs that are shaping the economy now, for companies that won’t be interested in locating in a state where diverse talent can’t be found, and where some of its employees don’t feel safe.


But maybe some of these kids will stay and continue to remind us that marching backward isn’t going to get us where we need to go. Hate will not make Iowa great. They’ll keep sending that message any way they can. And we need to listen.

 
Rural America is dying everywhere.

Iowa metro areas seem to be doing well.

What states they moving to in your opinion?
Minnesota is one, and other States where womens' rights are protected.

Cities in Iowa, specifically DM area, are also growing. Not sure why Dim Kim doesn't take a long term approach to promoting the Waterloo/CF, CR/IC, Davenport/Bettendorf areas.

But when you have such a stranglehold on the voting electorate, she really has no motivation to change her playbook.
 
Minnesota is one, and other States where womens' rights are protected.

Cities in Iowa, specifically DM area, are also growing. Not sure why Dim Kim doesn't take a long term approach to promoting the Waterloo/CF, CR/IC, Davenport/Bettendorf areas.

But when you have such a stranglehold on the voting electorate, she really has no motivation to change her playbook.
Is rural Minnesota booming ?

Isn’t Minneapolis having an exodus?

I doubt a dozen people left Iowa because they might want an abortion down the road.
 
Is rural Minnesota booming ?

Isn’t Minneapolis having an exodus?

I doubt a dozen people left Iowa because they might want an abortion down the road.
It isn't specifically about having an abortion, it's about having autonomy over your body in deciding when you have kids, what kind of birth control you have access to, what kind of medical care you receive. If you want to make it about abortion, most women don't roll in for an abortion on a whim. There are lots of reasons an abortion may be considered. Taking that control from the individual is something we haven't seen for 50 years in this country. Young people are the most mobile in our society. A lot of young women will make choices about where they decide to start their careers and eventually families on the ability to have autonomy over their body. States like Iowa will lose a lot of highly educated young women.
 
Is rural Minnesota booming ?

Isn’t Minneapolis having an exodus?

I doubt a dozen people left Iowa because they might want an abortion down the road.
College grads from Iowa are moving to the TCs for high paying jobs. With a Democratic Governor and two US Senators is no coincidence.

My sisters two children graduated from Iowa and now live in Eden Prairie and Woodbury. They love it there.
 
It isn't specifically about having an abortion, it's about having autonomy over your body in deciding when you have kids, what kind of birth control you have access to, what kind of medical care you receive. If you want to make it about abortion, most women don't roll in for an abortion on a whim. There are lots of reasons an abortion may be considered. Taking that control from the individual is something we haven't seen for 50 years in this country. Young people are the most mobile in our society. A lot of young women will make choices about where they decide to start their careers and eventually families on the ability to have autonomy over their body. States like Iowa will lose a lot of highly educated young women.
Are all these things, including abortions, something that the vast majority (as in 95+%) of highly-educated young women are struggling with in Iowa?..............................



That's a rhetorical question, btw, but you can say yes if you want to continue the argument. ;)
 
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It's why younger, highly educated adults will, and are, fleeing this State.

They don't want to be Mississippi North.
If they're worried that public schools not being able to properly groom young children or hide their sexuality from their parents, left them leave.
 
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Btw, I'll make this really simple for everyone.

Major cities, certainly outside Iowa, are great attractions and each have their charms.............but how many of you have ever heard the expression "too many cooks in the kitchen"?


And that's why you don't live in major cities or even their suburbs.

You're welcome, America. :D



(like I said, it's really that simple)
 
I doubt a dozen people left Iowa because they might want an abortion down the road.
Idaho has, perhaps, the most restrictive abortion laws in the country and is hemorrhaging OB/GYNs. Hospitals in smaller communities are being forced to drop obstetrical services completely, forcing women to drive long distances to get the care they need and putting their health and the health of the unborn at risk if there's an emergency.

So - you know - it's not necessarily the people who want or need abortions that will be the problem. I would have thought that would be "obvious".
 
Is rural Minnesota booming ?

Isn’t Minneapolis having an exodus?

I doubt a dozen people left Iowa because they might want an abortion down the road.
Even if they did, that just means the plan is working. If you want to be a liberal whackadoo go live in the people's republic of California.
 
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Is rural Minnesota booming ?

Isn’t Minneapolis having an exodus?

I doubt a dozen people left Iowa because they might want an abortion down the road.
As I sincerely doubt old folks move from Iowa because of its taxes! Altho I am sure there are some who do, the vast majority of older Iowans leave the state for three reason...1) December, 2) January, and 3) March.
Youth leaves Iowa because of low wages and strained potential in employment. Some come back....most do not.
The folks running the state the past decade or so, have really dropped the ball and lost their way for all of us. . (And the folks that has been in charge recently are Republicans and conservative social agendists.) These folks speak of the past as sacred and hallowed...not as something that is merely transitionary. Iowa has generally done things the right way in my lifetime....the past decade has been more than a little concerning to me. Iowa will not flourish under its current philosophy and leadership. Iowans May feel comfortable about the way things are going, but they need to remember the growing pains and emotional edges they physically felt and experienced as they grew into their adulthood. “Comfortable” is not always a good thing.
 
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College grads from Iowa are moving to the TCs for high paying jobs. With a Democratic Governor and two US Senators is no coincidence.

My sisters two children graduated from Iowa and now live in Eden Prairie and Woodbury. They love it there.
I know 4 people that left Minneapolis because of the huge jump in crime.

So there.

Point is rural areas are dropping regardless of politics and urban areas are flourishing.

Maybe they left because they eventually want to cut their kids genitals off before they turn 18 and didn’t want you to know the truth.

Maybe the Iowa democrats would have planned a billion dollar entertainment district in Rudd Iowa to save rural areas and the hikes on me.

Waukee and Ankeny are planning to build their third high schools soon. Maybe they didn’t get the memo.

If a Republican farts we can bet the farm three posters here will say they are moving.

Roflamo they are Democrat tourists. Eden Praire and Woodbury are whiter and more middle class than anything you will find in Iowa. Diversity is fine as long as we are all white and doing well.
 
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Lol I don't follow your posts enough to know or care. Come on now.

Besides that doesn't tell me anything about what you do for a living other than that you don't care enough to leave Iowa for a "better job", right now.............
I'm a bottle washer in the biotech industry my friend. Low paid and underappreciated. If you got a gig and want evil monkeys made, I'm your guy.
 
Minnesota is one, and other States where womens' rights are protected.

Cities in Iowa, specifically DM area, are also growing. Not sure why Dim Kim doesn't take a long term approach to promoting the Waterloo/CF, CR/IC, Davenport/Bettendorf areas.

But when you have such a stranglehold on the voting electorate, she really has no motivation to change her playbook.

Kim hates the few urban counties in Iowa where economic growth is actually happening because they consistently don’t support the GOP at the polls. And now in their infinite wisdom they have reformed the property tax laws such that growing counties and cities services and infrastructure can’t continue to grow at the same pace as their populations and economic base does. Eventually that will make those areas less likely to attract new businesses and younger professionals and the pace of economic development will taper off and wither. Because of spitefulness, nothing more.
 
A non-insignificant number of people identify as LGBTQ. Do I think it's as high as reported at 20%? No, but I think it's enough to move the needle where those leaving due to that are above replacement level in the population from a volume perspective.

Access to abortion and medical care is a significant number. Couple the two together and the loss will be noticeable although after your Governor gets her way, an Iowa public education will only offer the job skills necessary to work at a gas station making breakfast pizza and refilling the nacho cheese machine and may limit the ability to leave.
 
Are young people really moving out of state in droves like everyone says? If so please link this information.

Also when I graduated college in 2011 a lot of the young people that were from Iowa were moving to Des Moines. Personally I think this is still the case compared to moving out of state in droves.
 
Are young people really moving out of state in droves like everyone says? If so please link this information.

Also when I graduated college in 2011 a lot of the young people that were from Iowa were moving to Des Moines. Personally I think this is still the case compared to moving out of state in droves.
 
Btw, I'll make this really simple for everyone.

Major cities, certainly outside Iowa, are great attractions and each have their charms.............but how many of you have ever heard the expression "too many cooks in the kitchen"?


And that's why you don't live in major cities or even their suburbs.

You're welcome, America. :D



(like I said, it's really that simple)
LOL wut?
 
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