Iowa -Notre Dame article

[Hawkeye_311]

To be fair though last few years Fry's OOC wasn't as strong. 70s, 80s and early 90s you look at most every school and they put todays teams non conference to shame. 92' Iowa is insane Iowa played in Kickoff classic vs NC St, Colorado, Miami FL & ISU. But after that season from 93-98' when Hayden retired it started dwindling down like most other schools who were scheduling less and less multiple power 5 teams. Iowa played ISU 6x, Oregon in 94' & Arizona in 96' & 98'.

In 2000 Iowa played Kansas State in KC, at Nebraska and Iowa State. Pretty sure those game were scheduled when Hayden was still the coach.

 

[JoelBittner]

In 2000 Iowa played Kansas State in KC, at Nebraska and Iowa State. Pretty sure those game were scheduled when Hayden was still the coach.

2000 - P5 teams
KSU - 11-3
Nebraska 10-2
ISU - 9-3

Hayden is a man. A manly man. A superman. A man who doesn't cry. A man who sees Iowa as equal to any team in the FBS. The REAL savior of Iowa football. No one compares to him.

 

[MepoDawg#]

3rd option scheduling them in the OOC: happenin or not happenin?

As my post says the next time Iowa plays ND it’ll be in a bowl game or when they join the B1G so obviously I meant they won’t work out an agreement to play in regular season.

 

[rchawk]

I have posted this before and the article mentions it was a "rumor." Not true on the it only being a rumor. Iowa and ND wanted a 2 game series in Chicago for a ton of reasons including proximity and amount of alumni in the Midwest. The proposal was night games one year with Iowa the home team and broadcast on ABC and one year ND the home team carried by NBC. But due to the new Big 10 schedule with 9 games Iowa needs at least 2 of 3 OOC home games. Barta went to Pollard and asked for a 2 year hiatus to which Pollard said no and he would sue to ,keep the game under a specific performance theory as well as seek an injunction to prevent the Iowa-ND game due to claimed "irreparable harm" to ISU. So Barta backed out as he didn't want the political fall out of Iowa-ISU litigation as will as Barta was getting enough bad publicity. Those are all facts according to the Iowa foundation and a lawyer buddy who's father is a ND Trustee. So ND then went to Wisconsin for the game. But make no mistake both Iowa and ND wanted the game. Period. Thanks Pollard.

I had no idea, thanks Kujawa. No doubt a two game hiatus would cause "irreparable harm" for ISU so I can see Pollard's point. Iowa could have two games against Notre Dame but instead got two games against the clowns.

When the contract renewal comes up, don't renew it. Screw them and the pig they rode in on.

 

[KujawaFan]

I will respond to a couple posts. I would not have posted it unless i heard it from BOTH the Iowa foundation AND the son who was in my wedding who’s father is a ND trustee. Now a couple things to address. From I believe “don’t drink,” who said we could have done a buyout with ISU. I do not know what the liquidated buyout is in the Iowa and ISU contract even if there is one regardless. But not even the point. Pollard was going to try in force the contract under a specific performance theory of recovery which means the remedy to ISU would be the Iowa game is played. An example would be of Eye or PsychoTwins overlooked my fries, I could ask for specific performance meanin they would have to redo my fries not that I get money back. Pollard also threatened with an injunction. Political fallout would have been bad for Barta as many even Iowa fans want to keep the game.

Now at to IllHawk or whatever it was to say ND didn’t want to play Iowa cause they only play teams where they want to recruit. That is the dumbest thing I have ever read. So wouldn’t play Iowa but will play Wisconsin? U serious Clark? And ND recruits nationally and generally their biggest base is Chicago where the 2 games were to take place. If it was based on recruiting outside of California, why don’t they play in Florida? But regardless it is what it is.

Bottom line I don’t care if people believe what I know. ISU cannot lose this game as they cannot get any other home and home with a P5 team. Did I see the last P5 team not named Iowa to see Trice was Minnesota in 1989? And Pollard will do whatever to keep Iowa including threats. Plus who would Pollard troll if he didn’t have Iowa, Akron, SD St, UNi? And what would CF have to talk about or Randy to write about?

 

[iahawkeyes17]

You just admitted for the majority of his tenure he played some stiff OOC competition. He also beat the creampuffs during his time. Can ya say those things about the current regime?

Hayden also lost to some creampuffs too he wasn't immune to bad losses as much as well all love him. We all remember the game at Tulsa in 97'. My point is and was almost all power 5 teams played tougher non conference games in 70s and 80s and come 90s and beyond started scheduling some what easier games, Iowa included with basically every other team. Back then 6 home games was the norm now with 7 it changes things and all the $ involved. Point and case SEC 13 of 14 teams in 16' played 3 non power 5 teams in non conference and 11 of 14 last season. I love Hayden as much as the next but with Iowa's current scheduling of 9 conference with 3 non conference games plus the ISU conundrum I bet it wouldn't look much different if he was the coach or someone else.

 

[Wasnt-drunk-didnt-troll]

I will respond to a couple posts. I would not have posted it unless i heard it from BOTH the Iowa foundation AND the son who was in my wedding who’s father is a ND trustee. Now a couple things to address. From I believe “don’t drink,” who said we could have done a buyout with ISU. I do not know what the liquidated buyout is in the Iowa and ISU contract even if there is one regardless. But not even the point. Pollard was going to try in force the contract under a specific performance theory of recovery which means the remedy to ISU would be the Iowa game is played. An example would be of Eye or PsychoTwins overlooked my fries, I could ask for specific performance meanin they would have to redo my fries not that I get money back. Pollard also threatened with an injunction. Political fallout would have been bad for Barta as many even Iowa fans want to keep the game.

Now at to IllHawk or whatever it was to say ND didn’t want to play Iowa cause they only play teams where they want to recruit. That is the dumbest thing I have ever read. So wouldn’t play Iowa but will play Wisconsin? U serious Clark? And ND recruits nationally and generally their biggest base is Chicago where the 2 games were to take place. If it was based on recruiting outside of California, why don’t they play in Florida? But regardless it is what it is.

Bottom line I don’t care if people believe what I know. ISU cannot lose this game as they cannot get any other home and home with a P5 team. Did I see the last P5 team not named Iowa to see Trice was Minnesota in 1989? And Pollard will do whatever to keep Iowa including threats. Plus who would Pollard troll if he didn’t have Iowa, Akron, SD St, UNi? And what would CF have to talk about or Randy to write about?

I know nothing of lawyering or how legal matters work but I really do appreciate you trying to walk me through it. I'm still a little confused though, so if you have a moment I would really appreciate more information. Am I reading this correctly that if Barta tried to back out Pollard wouldnt have been able to go after him financially he would have somehow been able to force the game through the court system? Contracts get broke every day that seems odd they could do that here. (I got lost in the fry thing other than to pick up the clown fan works a BK) Is it likely Pollard would have "won" and we would have had to hold the contract? Tia.

 

[KujawaFan]

No worries buddy. There are certain cases that if simple money is not considered an adequate remedy (money is considered a case in law) then equitable (non law) remedies can be sought by the aggrieved party. A couple equitable remedies are specific performance and injunctions. So in this case, a claim by ISU for speciific performance would allege money is an insufficient remedy and that the game be played. An injunction claim by ISU would allege irreparable harm and ask the Court block the Iowa-ND game. I don’t think Pollard would have been successful on either front but he knows Iowa would not want to get into litigation with ISU over a football game. So he played that card.

 

[iahawkeyes17]

No worries buddy. There are certain cases that if simple money is not considered an adequate remedy (money is considered a case in law) then equitable (non law) remedies can be sought by the aggrieved party. A couple equitable remedies are specific performance and injunctions. So in this case, a claim by ISU for speciific performance would allege money is an insufficient remedy and that the game be played. An injunction claim by ISU would allege irreparable harm and ask the Court block the Iowa-ND game. I don’t think Pollard would have been successful on either front but he knows Iowa would not want to get into litigation with ISU over a football game. So he played that card.

With teams backing out of games like Michigan just did with Arkansas to play ND where they just gave some $ to get out of the game I'd doubt most ADs would go this route as you explained. However if there was ever one to do this I could totally see Jamie Pollard being the one especially being the Iowa-ISU game.

 

[Hawkeyeinsoutherncalifornia]

So I guess I am a halfwit? What a bout a full wit?

It's not difficult to comprehend. Sure Iowa fans want to play Notre Dame. Just like fans of 100 or more schools.

It is an Iowa fan dream with little base in reality. If we were to visit the recent history of other message boards, those schools want to play Notre Dame too. Sure Gary Barta could make a call, He may have already done so. After being on hold he's told thanks but no thanks.

I'm not an ND fan, I don't like them. But every time some half-wit asks "Why don't we schedule Notre Dame?" I know he's a half-wit.

 

[Wasnt-drunk-didnt-troll]

No worries buddy. There are certain cases that if simple money is not considered an adequate remedy (money is considered a case in law) then equitable (non law) remedies can be sought by the aggrieved party. A couple equitable remedies are specific performance and injunctions. So in this case, a claim by ISU for speciific performance would allege money is an insufficient remedy and that the game be played. An injunction claim by ISU would allege irreparable harm and ask the Court block the Iowa-ND game. I don’t think Pollard would have been successful on either front but he knows Iowa would not want to get into litigation with ISU over a football game. So he played that card.

Thank you. That seems like something that you could fairly accurately put a dollar amount to so it's odd they would be able to do that.

 

[KujawaFan]

Wasn’t Drunk - to be clear, I agree with you and do NOT think Pollard would have been successful but the fallout to Barta and Iowa would have been quite severe. All ISU fans want/need the game. A good percentage of Iowa fans want the game. And every news outlet and sports media source in the State wants the game. Keep in mind at the end of the day am AD is really just a glorified politician that raises money. Hiring coaches is a tiny percentage of what they do.