Exactly. Yet the delusionites that still support our incompetent staff somehow think they found a real gem here in this kid. No, we were his only offer so we got him. The excuses they make for this staff are just unreal. Fact is, this staff sucks all the way around.Originally posted by Auger:
I don't understand some of the fans on here. When people are making a big deal about how many stars a guy has they say they don't pay attention to that they pay attention to who has offered the kid. Well this kid sits in one of the most highly recruited regions in college football from FCS schools to FBS schools and nobody has offered him until 2hrs ago. Now he is the steal of the class? Just face it this staff sucks at recruiting and this program is going south.
Thank you! Obviously this is no garauntee that he will be a stud, but posters need to give credit to the staff for once.Originally posted by crHawkeye92:
An article just came out about Eric Graham. Apparently, once he achieved a qualifying ACT score, he received interest from Iowa, Notre Dame, Kentucky, Mississippi St, and Toledo. Here's a quote from his coach:
"I think Eric is going to be a very good fit for the Big Ten," Sims
said. "He's about 5-10, 200 pounds, and is very athletic and explosive.
He's run a sub 10.9 in the 100 (meter dash) and just does some things
that you don't see people do a whole lot. He can hit full speed in his
first two steps and just being that big and powerful with that kind of
quickness, it makes you a very dangerous runner."
You can read the full article here: https://iowa.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1733534
Vellllly intellllestingOriginally posted by crHawkeye92:
An article just came out about Eric Graham. Apparently, once he achieved a qualifying ACT score, he received interest from Iowa, Notre Dame, Kentucky, Mississippi St, and Toledo. Here's a quote from his coach:
"I think Eric is going to be a very good fit for the Big Ten," Sims
said. "He's about 5-10, 200 pounds, and is very athletic and explosive.
He's run a sub 10.9 in the 100 (meter dash) and just does some things
that you don't see people do a whole lot. He can hit full speed in his
first two steps and just being that big and powerful with that kind of
quickness, it makes you a very dangerous runner."
You can read the full article here: https://iowa.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1733534
I agree. I have been very critical about this staff and their ability to recruit. When I saw last night that Higdon was making an announcement this morning it was clear he was flipping and I expected either there would be no RB in this class or we would "steal" another UNI or such level recruit at the last minute. I am pleasantly surprised to see that the staff had a back up plan and had brought Graham in last weekend for a visit. Sounds like he was a late qualifier and although the level of competition was a lower level, that's not the kid's fault. He still excelled and looks to be very athletic. There are in fact "diamonds in the rough" out there and we won't know for awhile but it's possible they found one with Graham.Originally posted by SWIowahawks:
Thank you! Obviously this is no garauntee that he will be a stud, but posters need to give credit to the staff for once.Originally posted by crHawkeye92:
An article just came out about Eric Graham. Apparently, once he achieved a qualifying ACT score, he received interest from Iowa, Notre Dame, Kentucky, Mississippi St, and Toledo. Here's a quote from his coach:
"I think Eric is going to be a very good fit for the Big Ten," Sims
said. "He's about 5-10, 200 pounds, and is very athletic and explosive.
He's run a sub 10.9 in the 100 (meter dash) and just does some things
that you don't see people do a whole lot. He can hit full speed in his
first two steps and just being that big and powerful with that kind of
quickness, it makes you a very dangerous runner."
You can read the full article here: https://iowa.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1733534
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For what? Getting a kid nobody else offered?Originally posted by SWIowahawks:
Thank you! Obviously this is no garauntee that he will be a stud, but posters need to give credit to the staff for once.Originally posted by crHawkeye92:
An article just came out about Eric Graham. Apparently, once he achieved a qualifying ACT score, he received interest from Iowa, Notre Dame, Kentucky, Mississippi St, and Toledo. Here's a quote from his coach:
"I think Eric is going to be a very good fit for the Big Ten," Sims
said. "He's about 5-10, 200 pounds, and is very athletic and explosive.
He's run a sub 10.9 in the 100 (meter dash) and just does some things
that you don't see people do a whole lot. He can hit full speed in his
first two steps and just being that big and powerful with that kind of
quickness, it makes you a very dangerous runner."
You can read the full article here: https://iowa.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1733534
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Would you rather Iowa had just sat back and picked up a fallback rb from UNI? At least they signed someone who is athletic with potential. Does it mean that he's going to pan out? I don't know, but I'm trying to be somewhat optimistic.Originally posted by ThatsFootball:For what? Getting a kid nobody else offered?
And I'm trying to be somewhat realistic. Iowa is going to have a hard time competing for the middle of the pack in the B1G if they continuously must rely on diamonds in the rough kids that no other power 5 conferences offer.Originally posted by crHawkeye92:
Would you rather Iowa had just sat back and picked up a fallback rb from UNI? At least they signed someone who is athletic with potential. Does it mean that he's going to pan out? I don't know, but I'm trying to be somewhat optimistic.Originally posted by ThatsFootball:For what? Getting a kid nobody else offered?
Originally posted by Hawkeye2222:
getting a 1st Team All State out of Alabama is not a fall back recruit and if he is a fall back Iwill take a 1st team All State in Alabama. at the last minute
Well considering this board is full of people saying the staff sucks for no having a back up plan. This was set into motion a while ago. They know what they are doing, even if the results aren't exactly what they/we would like them to be.Originally posted by ThatsFootball:
For what? Getting a kid nobody else offered?Originally posted by SWIowahawks:
Thank you! Obviously this is no garauntee that he will be a stud, but posters need to give credit to the staff for once.Originally posted by crHawkeye92:
An article just came out about Eric Graham. Apparently, once he achieved a qualifying ACT score, he received interest from Iowa, Notre Dame, Kentucky, Mississippi St, and Toledo. Here's a quote from his coach:
"I think Eric is going to be a very good fit for the Big Ten," Sims
said. "He's about 5-10, 200 pounds, and is very athletic and explosive.
He's run a sub 10.9 in the 100 (meter dash) and just does some things
that you don't see people do a whole lot. He can hit full speed in his
first two steps and just being that big and powerful with that kind of
quickness, it makes you a very dangerous runner."
You can read the full article here: https://iowa.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1733534
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So might any other 2* with no other offers. But when your program is banking on diamonds in the rough every year you are not in a good spot IMO.Originally posted by SWIowahawks:
Well considering this board is full of people saying the staff sucks for no having a back up plan. This was set into motion a while ago. They know what they are doing, even if the results aren't exactly what they/we would like them to be.Originally posted by ThatsFootball:
For what? Getting a kid nobody else offered?Originally posted by SWIowahawks:
Thank you! Obviously this is no garauntee that he will be a stud, but posters need to give credit to the staff for once.Originally posted by crHawkeye92:
An article just came out about Eric Graham. Apparently, once he achieved a qualifying ACT score, he received interest from Iowa, Notre Dame, Kentucky, Mississippi St, and Toledo. Here's a quote from his coach:
"I think Eric is going to be a very good fit for the Big Ten," Sims
said. "He's about 5-10, 200 pounds, and is very athletic and explosive.
He's run a sub 10.9 in the 100 (meter dash) and just does some things
that you don't see people do a whole lot. He can hit full speed in his
first two steps and just being that big and powerful with that kind of
quickness, it makes you a very dangerous runner."
You can read the full article here: https://iowa.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1733534
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For the record I have been critical of the staff but this one might be a good one.
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Ray Kinsella approves.Originally posted by Lumas Etima:
Can we call him "Moonlight"?
Been trying to put context to no other offers but people don't wanna see it. There are reasons things like that happen. There are plenty of fall back recruits that could have been much worse or wasted scholarships. I'm growing optimism after watching his tape and hearing some of these other comments about what has transpired.Originally posted by ThatsFootball:
So might any other 2* with no other offers. But when your program is banking on diamonds in the rough every year you are not in a good spot IMO.Originally posted by SWIowahawks:
Well considering this board is full of people saying the staff sucks for no having a back up plan. This was set into motion a while ago. They know what they are doing, even if the results aren't exactly what they/we would like them to be.Originally posted by ThatsFootball:
For what? Getting a kid nobody else offered?Originally posted by SWIowahawks:
Thank you! Obviously this is no garauntee that he will be a stud, but posters need to give credit to the staff for once.Originally posted by crHawkeye92:
An article just came out about Eric Graham. Apparently, once he achieved a qualifying ACT score, he received interest from Iowa, Notre Dame, Kentucky, Mississippi St, and Toledo. Here's a quote from his coach:
"I think Eric is going to be a very good fit for the Big Ten," Sims
said. "He's about 5-10, 200 pounds, and is very athletic and explosive.
He's run a sub 10.9 in the 100 (meter dash) and just does some things
that you don't see people do a whole lot. He can hit full speed in his
first two steps and just being that big and powerful with that kind of
quickness, it makes you a very dangerous runner."
You can read the full article here: https://iowa.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1733534
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For the record I have been critical of the staff but this one might be a good one.
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The problem with this is they didn't offer him, neither did any other schools.Originally posted by final_flashx:
So if the kid ended up choosing Kentucky over us, then people would still be saying, "we suck at recruiting"...... obviously this kid was a fallback recruit after losing Higdon, but he might end up being pretty good looking at the film and measurables. Of course we're not gonna know until he actually steps foot on campus.
Correct. Maybe his transcripts weren't enough? Someone tweeted he was going to take the ACT a third time so there might be even more to it.Originally posted by ThatsFootball:
The problem with this is they didn't offer him, neither did any other schools.Originally posted by final_flashx:
So if the kid ended up choosing Kentucky over us, then people would still be saying, "we suck at recruiting"...... obviously this kid was a fallback recruit after losing Higdon, but he might end up being pretty good looking at the film and measurables. Of course we're not gonna know until he actually steps foot on campus.
I agree with this.Originally posted by SWIowahawks:
Correct. Maybe his transcripts weren't enough? Someone tweeted he was going to take the ACT a third time so there might be even more to it.Originally posted by ThatsFootball:
The problem with this is they didn't offer him, neither did any other schools.Originally posted by final_flashx:
So if the kid ended up choosing Kentucky over us, then people would still be saying, "we suck at recruiting"...... obviously this kid was a fallback recruit after losing Higdon, but he might end up being pretty good looking at the film and measurables. Of course we're not gonna know until he actually steps foot on campus.
The state of Iowa football recruiting is why I'm not jumping off a bridge about this recruit. The fact that some of these other high profile schools atleast took an interest in him the last few weeks tells me he is no slouch. After losing Higdon at the last minute, this is a win for Iowa recruiting unfortunately.
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Our future coach including but not limited to Bret Bielema.Originally posted by SWIowahawks:
Ok now what should we discuss? CJ or Rudock, Kirk Ferentz's pay, or Paul Rhoads claiming he got the top in state recruit from Iowa for the third year in a row according to rivals (not true)?
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Hey, I still agree with you. I'm just holding out some hope.Originally posted by ThatsFootball:
And I'm trying to be somewhat realistic. Iowa is going to have a hard time competing for the middle of the pack in the B1G if they continuously must rely on diamonds in the rough kids that no other power 5 conferences offer.Originally posted by crHawkeye92:
Would you rather Iowa had just sat back and picked up a fallback rb from UNI? At least they signed someone who is athletic with potential. Does it mean that he's going to pan out? I don't know, but I'm trying to be somewhat optimistic.Originally posted by ThatsFootball:For what? Getting a kid nobody else offered?
Nope. Just a kid that was offered the night before signing day after the staff knew they would not sign any of there initial targets. A player that has his rivals recruiting profile created this morning because before today one didn't exist. Now after the story being that he qualified a month ago he is taking his ACT test again. There are a lot of strange things going on here before we start penciling Eric Graham on the Iowa roster.Originally posted by Hawkeye2222:
getting a 1st Team All State out of Alabama is not a fall back recruit and if he is a fall back Iwill take a 1st team All State in Alabama. at the last minute
Sign me up.Originally posted by ThatsFootball:
Our future coach including but not limited to Bret Bielema.Originally posted by SWIowahawks:
Ok now what should we discuss? CJ or Rudock, Kirk Ferentz's pay, or Paul Rhoads claiming he got the top in state recruit from Iowa for the third year in a row according to rivals (not true)?
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Oh bullcrap. There is a Corrections Officer here that just squatted 608 in a competition over the weekend. It's very doable. And he weighs 180ish.Originally posted by Sandow:
Originally posted by thejazzcat:
Watch the film. This is not a 4.71. This is a helluva pick-up on signing day. Of course that doesn't fit certain narratives.Originally posted by Sandow:
I believe the 4.4 40 about as much as the 600 lb squat. Total crap. Another site lists him as 5'8 190 with a 4.71 40. Under the radar, blah, blah, blah. Recruiting failure plain and simple. I he had any talent he wouldn't be coming here.
Pleasant surprise
Look at the competition he is playing against. If he is such a talent, then why did we just notice him today? Like I said, the 4.4 40 and the 600 lb squat are laughable. That squat at that bodyweight is a world record or damn close to it. Everybody looks good on their highlight tape, that's why its called a highlight tape.
There is no doubt that Graham was a fall-back recruit behind Karan Higdon - to claim otherwise is just stupid. That is not to say that Graham won't have a good career, only that Graham received Higdon's scholarship after he de-committed.Originally posted by ChrisVarick:
Nope. Just a kid that was offered the night before signing day after the staff knew they would not sign any of there initial targets. A player that has his rivals recruiting profile created this morning because before today one didn't exist. Now after the story being that he qualified a month ago he is taking his ACT test again. There are a lot of strange things going on here before we start penciling Eric Graham on the Iowa roster.Originally posted by Hawkeye2222:
getting a 1st Team All State out of Alabama is not a fall back recruit and if he is a fall back Iwill take a 1st team All State in Alabama. at the last minute
IMO, this statement pretty much sums up the position of a number of posters. They're view of this recruit has nothing to do with him personally, but rather is defined by their hatred of KF. Rather than objectively considering the possibility that the kid could actually be a good find (which would credit KF) they choose to instead belittle him even if it means painting a false picture (using a 4.7 40 time from when he was 15, for example). I have some problems with KF myself, but I'll be damned if I'm going take it out on a kid by taking potshots that would more correctly be aimed at KF himself.Originally posted by Sandow:
If he had any talent he wouldn't be coming here.
I've seen the same. Our fullback my Junior year squatted 600 and benched 300 by graduation. He also qualified for the finals in the 100 and 110 highs in 1A too. Rare, but not laughable or unbelievable at all.Originally posted by crHawkeye92:
I don't think the 600 lb squat is that laughable. When I was in high school, we had a kid who could squat huge amounts of weight (I don't remember the exact weight, but it was definitely the 500's at least). He was only like 5'9'' but weighed probably close to 200 lbs. It's definitely not a world record.Originally posted by Sandow:
Look at the competition he is playing against. If he is such a talent, then why did we just notice him today? Like I said, the 4.4 40 and the 600 lb squat are laughable. That squat at that bodyweight is a world record or damn close to it. Everybody looks good on their highlight tape, that's why its called a highlight tape.