Just saw a tweet that Iowa jumped to 54? I don't pay for realtime RPI, so have no way of verifying this. 70s sounds more believable at this point.
Iowa RPI bump
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Let's beat Whisky and then talk,
I would say Iowa probably needs to win out and win 2 in the BTT to stand a realistic chance but winning out and 1 win in the big BTT might do it with all the experts in agreement that the bubble is weak. If we lose to Wisky than we have to win the BTT to have a chance.
Perhaps finishing out 1 & 1 and at least getting to B10 conf final game may do it too?
RPI is irrelevant at this point. Iowa needs to win as many as they can and hope for the NIT.
I'll also add, that had Iowa won @ Nebraska, @ Minnesota, and vs Illinois then we could talk about NCAA.
Maybe but our road resume is poor. It depends on who beat in the BTT. We need Top 50 RPI wins. We only have four signature wins at the moment (ISU, Purdue, Mich, & MD) and some pretty bad RPI losses. A win over Wisconsin is vital if we are going to be seriously considered. Until tonight the NIT was a long shot. IMHO We still need to beat PSU and 1 in the BTT to be a lock for the NIT considering our RPI is in the 90s and might only climb to the 80s unless we get another quality road win.
I don't think I've ever agreed with you before. This is awkward.
They need to win the BTT to make the tournament. The highest RPI in the NIT last year was in the 80's.
Clemson (4-12 in ACC) and Pitt (4-12 in ACC) are still considered as being "in" which is sad.
The bubble is very weak, but the hawks are still on the outside looking in.
They have to win at least 4-5 in a row to even be put back into the convo. Their early season losses (UNO & Memphis) are killing them right now. Also doesn't help that UNI who is normally a top 100 win is now hovering around 150.
Iowa missed some golden opportunities in Big Ten Play to solidify their Resume, but they didn't do it. They have to win 5 in a row to get into as a "last 4" I believe. Can it be done? I don't know, but this young squad is playing pretty good. IF they keep sharing the ball and not rely on 1 player, they can do it.
I will take a NIT birth as well, so as long as they win 2-3 down the stretch they will get an NIT birth i believe.
The bubble is very weak, but the hawks are still on the outside looking in.
They have to win at least 4-5 in a row to even be put back into the convo. Their early season losses (UNO & Memphis) are killing them right now. Also doesn't help that UNI who is normally a top 100 win is now hovering around 150.
Iowa missed some golden opportunities in Big Ten Play to solidify their Resume, but they didn't do it. They have to win 5 in a row to get into as a "last 4" I believe. Can it be done? I don't know, but this young squad is playing pretty good. IF they keep sharing the ball and not rely on 1 player, they can do it.
I will take a NIT birth as well, so as long as they win 2-3 down the stretch they will get an NIT birth i believe.
IMO Iowa needs the quality win @UW for the resume.
IF they can win the last two.. I'm guessing it may take a run to the title game to get in. That'd be 21-14, 13-9 in conference games. But yeah, probably depends on exactly who we face in the BTT.
Still an extreme long shot but a win against UW makes it a bit more interesting.
This hurts as much as anything:
Savannah St. - RPI 318
Rio Grande - 311
Stetson - 332
Delaware St. - 331
I don't see why the committee doesn't look at those games and see 40 point wins probably meet the criteria..
Joe Lunardi is stating if Pitt or Clemson win this week it will be enough to bump them up. If Clemson beat FSU today it would of put them in??
I don't give a crap about unbalanced schedules, 4-12 should NEVER be good enough
Bracket Matrix has Georgia Tech as the 4th team out currently and they are one below Iowa in the rpi at 96.
I'm with you.. two more wins to finish the regular season and I think Iowa is in the center of the bubble discussion..
Exactly correct. No one should be considered at 4-12 in their own conference.
If Iowa wins their next 5 games (21 wins overall and would get them to the Big 10 championship), their RPI would be in the high 50s. Getting to 20 wins probably isn't good enough, I think they need to win-out until the Big 10 Championship, and even then they might not get in.
We should have swapped those teams for more 150ish teams like Omaha.
I could be wrong, but I think I did test that with RPI forecast awhile back. Now 4-0 against those 150 teams would make huge difference. Probably even4-0 against average of 200-250. Just should not schedule 275+ teams if at all possible
People forget just how bad and erratic we were in November and December. Typical young team, but you can't just say we should have swapped worse teams for slightly better teams and assume that we would have beaten those better teamsz Or that the trajectory of the season might have changed completely because our young team might have lost confidence playing a tougher schedule.
If we would play like last night we win out, we win the tourney title, we win the national title 
according to RPI forecast if we replaced our wins over Kennewaw st and three of the four 300+ teams with home games against buffalo, coastal Carolina, Elon, And Albany and went 3-1 our projected RPI would improve from 98 to 88; suppose that could be a significant amount. 4-0 against those ~150 teams would be RPI of 72. 4-0 against 200-250 central Michigan, Denver, Bradley, Delaware would improve our projected RPI from 98 to 82. So 3-1 vs ~150 pretty similar to 4-0 vs ~225. Basically can't play more than one 300+ team. Actually if we simply didn't play those four +300 games our RPI goes from 98 to 82. That seems weird, I get got getting any credit for beating those teams, but actually penalizing you for playing them seems harsh
It is tough to predict a top 150 team that is willing to play on the road with out requiring a road trip in return.... and especially a year or two ahead of time.
Those schools hurt the RPI, but it is a home game for Iowa. Most FCS schools have a few home games like that.
Those schools hurt the RPI, but it is a home game for Iowa. Most FCS schools have a few home games like that.
That was basically the point of my initial reply, there was no guarantee of 4-0, or even 3-1 against four ~150 teams
You should be >0.500 or within at LEAST one game of 0.500 in your conference (in a really top conference) for consideration. I'd rather see more mid-majors with good records in the NCAAs than a bunch of sub-0.500 power conference teams. 0.500 in conference play should be a primary litmus test, with a few exceptions for teams with high BPIs. But not that many exceptions.....
This is why RPI and BPI are not really 'great' indicators of performance; they look at the whole season, instead of weighting later games higher. Indiana is a perfect example: they were a tourney 'lock' just a week or two ago. They've faded badly and probably won't even make NIT now. But they still rank 'higher' because of better early season performances, which really should 'fade out' as the season goes on, at least if you want the most competitive NCAA tournament teams.......de-emphasize those that limp to the finish line.
