AOG started the season pretty well and I'm guessing the practices dictated around that.
Maybe AH simply wasn't getting the reps with the starters?
Iowa WBB Class of 2026 Recruiting Thread
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Maybe AH simply wasn't getting the reps with the starters?
Actually AH was set to start the season opener, but was sick the week before and missed alot of practices....she had AOG beat out before then.....then AOG got hot played well early on ....
This. Lucy’s own 4-17 shooting and 7 turnover game comes immediately to mind…
Regarding Delaney Gibb: I don’t remember anyone mentioning her assist-to-turnover ratio. She had 124 assists to 134 turnovers = .93 ratio. In fact, looking at ESPN’s NCAA women’s basketball stats, out of the 3,130 women playing D1 basketball this year only five had more turnovers per game than Gibb, who averaged 4.5/game. She had 12 (!) against West Virginia. She has nice offensive numbers but the turnovers look like a problem.
Thing is, Iowa actually has a worse problem than that. Right now Guyton is the only point guard with experience on roster and she has 33 assists and 45 turnovers for a 0.73 ratio.
Stremlow is better: 66 assists, 52 turnovers, 1.27 ratio, but nothing to write home about.
No idea if Iowa will be interested in Gibb or another transfer PG. But if they aren't that means someone on roster or Deal will have to be the primary PG.
You are correct on that ratio.
Now to Braydon's point.
You can sort on GmSc column in the links below. This is the quickest way I know to do an initial eval on a player and the team's they played against or against other players to compare. Maybe someone else has a better website that compares players? If they do, I'd like to hear about it. Usually they are membership based. Suspect HerHoopStats has something better than this at a cost.
Gibb's avg GmSr of 11.4 is just above avg of 10. Amari Whiting (guard) was Gibb's teammate who is in the portal now and her score is 7.6.
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Btw, the GmSc column was hidden on my computer and I had to move the scroll bar to the right to view the last column.
Now compare that to our team today and the team for next season. This comes down to how much of a gamble do you want to place on two knowns and their off season development (Guyton/Stremlow) and one unknown (Deal)?
If Gibb comes available and at a reasonable price, then it may be worth it to try to bring her on board. Of course, this goes without saying that Gibb will need to be evaled against other guards and their strengths/weaknesses/price in the portal. We're just using Gibb as a reasonable example in this comparison.
Lucy's avg GmSr avg is 12. CC's last year was 24.6. CCs avg 4 scores were 19.6, 20.7, 22.8 and 24.6.
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2024-25 Game Log for Lucy Olsen
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Stremlow's avg GmSr is 2.3.
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2024-25 Game Log for Taylor Stremlow
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Guyton's avg GmSr is 2.0.
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2024-25 Game Log for Aaliyah Guyton
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So we can see Lucy is a reasonable benchmark to eval Gibb or any other portal player at her position. Plus, we had terrible TO problems early and mid season. Maybe our changes later in the season could help Gibb lower her AST/TO ratio also?
Thinking this may be another possibility other than Gibb. If we can't get the big splash like we got in Lucy, we need a last resort concept to turn towards. Meaning we want to get someone who would love to come to Iowa to be a part of the player hoopla and at the same time expect no starting role except to earn it. This player needs to be somewhat close to Lucy's avg GmSr than to Gutyon/Stremlow avg GmSr for a reasonable to low cost with major ball handling skills. This would be like an insurance policy concept if we can't pull in another Lucy or better.
Currently I'm not pro or con on Gibb. I just know she is worth more eval and that comes with comparing her against other portal players. This would start at the best bang for the buck without breaking the bank and then dropping down in increments until you reach your bottom ins policy as a last resort to cover a good part of Lucy's position in the portal.
Thinking if all else fails, Addie Deal could be considered an acceptable ins policy already if you can't get it from the portal. Don't think we go into collapse mode if we can't find a comparable replacement for Lucy. I may be wrong, but don't think we are in total desperation that we have to out bid everyone to replace this piece. Putting our NIL at risk of pulling in another position or two. Diligently try, but don't act desperate over it. Meaning we're in a better position now with the incoming '25 class and losing Lucy than we were when we lost CC with its incoming '24 frosh class.
The other thing is Gibb is a LDS member playing at a LDS program. Have no idea about any of their/her strict customs that may interfere with it at a non-LDS program.
Stremlow played 461 mnutes and had 52 turnovers which = a turnover every 8.9 minutes played.
Guyton played 434 minutes and had 45 turnovers which = a turnover every 9.6 minutes played.
Olson played 1026 minutes and had 89 turnovers which = a turnover every 11.5 minutes played.
Stuelke played 838 minutes and had 66 turnovers which = a turnover every 12.7 minutes played.
Affolter played 914 minutes and had 59 turnovers which = a turnover every 15.5 minutes played.
Feurbach played 806 minutes and had 60 turnovers which = a turnover every 13.4 minutes played.
I would conclude that turnovers were a huge negative for this team this year.
Olson, even as the point guard and having the ball in her possession more than others turned the ball over too much.
Stremlow and Guyton turned over the ball the most , but were freshmen.
The sad part really is the upperclass of Stuelke, Feurbach, and Affolter who turned the ball over a ton for being experienced, seasoned veterans. They may not have a long history of starting but they have been playing since grade school and a lot of AAU ball to still have bad turnover rates. Much because they are out of control on offense when they have the ball.
If you look at the freshmen's minutes played versus the upperclassmen minutes played it is about half. Then double the number of turnovers the freshmen committed and it really shows how error prone they were this year.
Jan needs to find a way to correct this issue. She has 2 coaches ( Stamp & Davis) that are dedicated to only the guards play who need to get this improved to a acceptable level.
This is just my opinion.
Guyton played 434 minutes and had 45 turnovers which = a turnover every 9.6 minutes played.
Olson played 1026 minutes and had 89 turnovers which = a turnover every 11.5 minutes played.
Stuelke played 838 minutes and had 66 turnovers which = a turnover every 12.7 minutes played.
Affolter played 914 minutes and had 59 turnovers which = a turnover every 15.5 minutes played.
Feurbach played 806 minutes and had 60 turnovers which = a turnover every 13.4 minutes played.
I would conclude that turnovers were a huge negative for this team this year.
Olson, even as the point guard and having the ball in her possession more than others turned the ball over too much.
Stremlow and Guyton turned over the ball the most , but were freshmen.
The sad part really is the upperclass of Stuelke, Feurbach, and Affolter who turned the ball over a ton for being experienced, seasoned veterans. They may not have a long history of starting but they have been playing since grade school and a lot of AAU ball to still have bad turnover rates. Much because they are out of control on offense when they have the ball.
If you look at the freshmen's minutes played versus the upperclassmen minutes played it is about half. Then double the number of turnovers the freshmen committed and it really shows how error prone they were this year.
Jan needs to find a way to correct this issue. She has 2 coaches ( Stamp & Davis) that are dedicated to only the guards play who need to get this improved to a acceptable level.
This is just my opinion.
Syd was my favorite player, but she would seemingly just hand the ball to the other team at least once a game.
I think playing with CC in years past contributed to the amount of turnovers the first half of this season. CC was always looking, always pushing, and very liberal and loose with the ball. CC could afford to do that because...well, just because. The veterans tried to mimic that approach to basketball and it didn't turn out as well. They learned and adapted by taking care of the ball resulting in less turnovers in the second half of the season. I may be off since this is coming from my untrained bias analysis.
Remember, CC has lots of turnovers too. But I would gladly take those turnovers for the finished product the last 2 years.
Hawks have averaged 14.2 TOs over last 10 games. I'd say we have that under control.
This year's team does, but the freshman still don't.
Guyton has 14 assists and 16 turnovers in the last 10. And if you expand one more game it's 15 assists and 20 turnovers.
Stremlow is a little better at 13 assists and 10 turnovers, but her minutes are also down in that stretch.
Ka$h Alexander who played for Iowa said multiple times on Cory Brada's 'From the Hawkeye of the Storm' program that 14 is their max # of TOs they can live with. Currently the team is at an avg of 16.0 for the season. That's only 1 TO per half more than what was acceptable under Bluder's leadership. CCs last year the avg TOs were 13.8 which is right under the cut off mark that Ka$h Alexander said.
So yes Frosh are going to make TOs at a higher clip than upperclassmen. It's the the nature of the beast with young players getting acclimated to the faster pace when they level up.
During the Clark years the avg TOs were: 14.1 (20-21), 14.1 (21-22), 14.3 (22-23) and 13.8 (23-24)
Again, on average for those 4 years, it's right at the mark Ka$h Alexander said when she played more than a decade before Clark showed up on campus.
So for the Hawks to end up avging 16 TOs with a new coach, new PG, Syd and Hannah having off-season procedures that slowed down their pre-season training and 5 new frosh (4 playing a lot of mins) for ~70% of the season, I'd say it's within a tolerable margin of error considering all of these circumstances. Did I mention that's only 1 TO per half more than what was acceptable under Bluder's leadership?
Since they made excessive TOs at the beginning of the season and came down to only avg 16 TOs/game, that tells you they made some serious progress as a team at the end of the season to bring that number down.
Let's put things into perspective here. Those last 2 years under Bluder you could look at it as a well-oiled machine. It had with many starters playing multiple years and logging many minutes together vs something that could be deemed as the opposite of what was handed to Jan to work with in her 1st year.
So in the grand scheme of things, your statement of "Jan needs to find a way to correct this [TO] issue" was pretty much delivered to you already without you realizing it.
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This team also turned opponents over at high level. Michigan State if I heard right had a season high in the tourney against us and several more ranked teams were over 20 against us including UCLA. Having said that I also believe we need another sort term pg for the uncertainty of development or an injury to either of our trio coming in
I hope they don’t make that mistake and don’t land one, then one goes down with an injury and were in trouble.
I truly get what you're saying, but there is a line there. So for example, when Ava Heiden committed, she remarked on social media about how she felt welcomed and overwhelmed by all of her new follows and positive comments from Hawk fans.
That sounds great. Just think it's important for people to remember comments are not the same thing as contact or interaction.
"Ava, so glad you are a Hawkeye!" is not the same as "Ava, I think you look good in a Hawkeye jersey! When are you coming to Iowa City? How is your leg healing?"
It was obvious that we weren’t really involved, but we were in her “top 16”
Can a teammates catch? But how many turnovers Clark gets every game because teammates can't catch. To serious question cuz I've never seen the girl play. Also could her teammates shoot the ball which also affects assists.
Those numbers seemed to improve once we quit trying to throw 20 lob passes a game. OGs slow feet credited our guards with several, but soccer were just on them for terrible passes.
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- Georgia – Kate Harpring (Guard, Marist School)
- Missouri – Addison Bjorn (Guard/Forward, Park Hill South High School)
- North Dakota – LeeLee Bell (Forward, Minot High School)
- South Dakota – Ashlyn Koupal (Forward, Wagner High School)
- Wisconsin – Natalie Kussow (Guard, Arrowhead High School)
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Well, I'd rather see something like this from our prospects as opposed to photos from the Bowling Green gym.
Woliczko’s dad sharing this is interesting..
Holy crap, could Woliczko and Bjorn play and start on the Iowa team together a possibility some day? Man wouldn’t that be something with a great supporting cast around them?🤞🤞🤞
Woliczko
Bjorn
Deal
Harpring
Heiden
Guyton
Hayes
Houston
Woliczko
Bjorn
Deal
Harpring
Heiden
Guyton
Hayes
Houston
That would be a lineup to be reckoned with!!!
If the coaches are able to get a commitment from Wolitczko, that would be quite a feat. She said Stanford is closer to her house than her high school and her two favorite WNBA players are Cameron Brink and Lexie Hull, both from Stanford. BUT, she likes Iowa, so we'll see.
Her first visit was an unofficial visit to UCLA, traveling across the country on your own nickel, seems telling. This is her official visit this weekend.
Thanks for that insight again. Think of all the boards I visit daily, Stanford is not on my list to grab little nuggets of info. All Stanford boards I've come across so far have VIP premium attached to them. Doesn't mean there's not a free access one out there, just hasn't crossed my path yet. Also sure some of this comes from the main social media influencer accounts that I don't have as well. But I digress.
Several things here that could be in our favor:
- @Matt1nb7 posted a tweet here by her dad yesterday. Him tagging both IowaWBB and CC on her effect could indicate sellouts/fans being a factor in their decision. Also in that clip, they mention top 5 girls (plural), not singular, as in not Deal alone. His daughter is also hinted at with that top 5 reference.
- Several of her dad's post seem very favorable to IA since their visit. He posted a lot of tweets from their visit to his acct and we even got his son involved. Could be very impressionable as the red carpet treatment to them.
- Stanford's fall. Could it be their new coach? Maybe new coach and their fall this year is a turn off to her/them? If Tara was still there, probably very little to no shot at getting her. Jan has kept us more relevant while Stanford and their new coach took a tumble. Maybe new head coach's system sucks? A head coach's system makes a HUGE difference in outcomes of games.
- Who's paying the bills? If McKenna isn't deeply enamored with the direction Stanford is going and is on the fence. Dad might have more of a final say in it? Who knows dad/mom might feel more like a celebrities more so than their talented daughter being at IA over Stanford.
- Scott had a post that also said Iowa might currently be in the lead for Woliczko and Chastain. We have no idea how that base intel on Woliczko was gathered in the telephone chain so take that with a grain of salt. However, Matt1nb7 just did a post on a direct communication of an exchange between Deal and Chastain where Chastain said IA was lucky to have Deal and Deal replied that we're about to get more lucky in a couple of years.
https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/iowa-wbb-class-of-2026-recruiting-thread.439535/page-34
- David Eickholt had a article stating: "If I had to bet today, I believe that Iowa would be the favorite for five-star forward McKenna Woliczko. There's a long way to go in that recruitment, but Iowa has done everything to be the frontrunner." Problem with Eickholt's comment is he also crystal balled Jenica Lewis to us and that might be up in the air now.
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Noticed on the Bruins forum they were concerned they don't have a big yet after Betts. They mentioned Emilia Krstevski is still on the board and were hoping to get her as she is from CA. If she doesn't commit and they can't get a big from the portal, could spell a little problem for them.
Harpring knows who the bigs will be at IA at least for a good portion of her career. Plus, post development is considered pretty good here.
I would imagine not only does Harpring look at the guard situation and her chance to play a lot, but the whole roster to see the chance of going to the Final Four.
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Stanford is going to be right back in the thick of it soon. Losing players like Brink and Iriafen would give any team a hit, but look at the class '25 commits.
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*But that recruit class might also work in Iowa's favor, as roster building goes. Who knows?
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*But that recruit class might also work in Iowa's favor, as roster building goes. Who knows?
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Stanford is going to be right back in the thick of it soon. Losing players like Brink and Iriafen would give any team a hit, but look at the class '25 commits.
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*But that recruit class might also work in Iowa's favor, as roster building goes. Who knows?
Guess I look at Stanford and IA being pretty much in the same boat coming into this season.
- Both of us lost head coaches prior to this year. So no advantage to either team.
- Both of us lost considerable fire power. Stanford even has a slight advantage over us in returners.
According to stats site sports-reference.com:
Iowa ('24-'25 season): 40.8% of minutes played and 35.3% of scoring return from 2023-24 roster
Stanford ('24-'25 season): 57.2% of minutes played and 40.2% of scoring return from 2023-24 roster
- Stanford's top 3 incoming '25 class is ranked a little higher than our 3 incoming '25 class. Their other 2 recruits may not see much time being > #50 players. So yes, Stanford gets an uptick advantage here in incoming class over us as far as composite rankings go, but not by much.
- A coaches system makes a big difference. Believe Stanford woman run Princeton offense or did under Tara. Since we both lost considerable fire power and we stayed much more relevant than Stanford with a 1st year head coach, that leaves me to believe that Stanford's head coach has some work to do yet to convince me she has it. As we have learned under Bluder who took 1 top #5 player, 1 ~#50 player and the rest ~#75 or higher to 2 Nattys, it's about the system and chemistry. Coaches can take top talent and make them look like a bubble team if the system has too many flaws and not effective.
- Stanford ended up ranked ~#55 composite this year. Stanford was 0-10 vs Quad 1 and 2-11 vs Quad 4 RPI. They lost by 20 to a 17-15 VA. They lost by 17 to a 14-17 Clemson. They lost by 49 to ND. We only lost 1 game by double digits. Again, this new head coach has some work to do to show me her system is as good as her incoming class.
Lara Somfai is listed as a 6'4" power forward with similar rankings as McKenna. It's not so clear that Woliczko could win this position between the two. Is it enough to scare McKenna off?
Alexandra Eschmeyer is listed as a 6'5" power forward/post ranked ~32. Suspect she would be a center over Somfai. Thus, pushing Somfai to a power forward. It's not so clear that Woliczko could win this position between the two. Is it enough to scare McKenna off?
The other 3 incoming players won't have much effect on Woliczko at least for playing time.
If I'm an incoming #4 player, it's not so clear of a path to: 1) play as much as I want 2) the new head coach has their act together.
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Actually, her first visit to UCLA was when the Southeastern All Stars were playing out there and she also visited USC at that time. I think Harpring is still the key; great players want to play with great players and without her it may be difficult. Again, she too likes Iowa so, we shall see. I see on Trinity Jones looks to be really interested in Iowa but I don't see any interaction with our coaches. Wonder why, or maybe they are and I've just missed it. A question for Wild 1: when do you sleep??????
Maybe ... maybe not.Stanford is going to be right back in the thick of it soon. Losing players like Brink and Iriafen would give any team a hit, but look at the class '25 commits.
2025 High School Girls' Basketball Recruits - Stanford - ESPN
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*But that recruit class might also work in Iowa's favor, as roster building goes. Who knows?
Not unlike Iowa, Stanford had a new coach this year. However, unlike Iowa ... Stanford didn't look like itself ... AT ALL. The new Stanford coach was obviously following a coaching legend. I love Bluder ... but stepping into Lisa's shoes isn't the same as stepping into those of Tara VanDerveer. In each case, long-time assistants stepped into the resulting void. However, Coach Jan Jensen had the Hawks competitive in every game ... win or lose. The Hawks will be entering March Madness as a likely 6th seed ... and will be a tough out for ANY team they face. Stanford had multiple games where they lost by 20+ ... and got blasted by Notre Dame by nearly 50 points.
Mind you ... we're not talking about a Stanford program that was working with an empty cupboard either. You're looking at a program with several former 5-stars on the roster ... with the rest likely being 4- to high 4-star recruits. With a roster that is already loaded "on paper" ... they grossly underperformed this year. Recruiting like they ordinarily do won't change things unless the downturn this year truly was attributable to the coaching transition.
However, what does this then say about Iowa? Our roster certainly has good players on it ... but not the same "on-paper" fire-power of Stanford's. Heck, the transition in Jan's first year wasn't without its bumps either. We had that 5-game slump, after all. All the same, I think that the year speaks volumes about Iowa's ladies ... AND the Hawkeye coaching staff.
If the "new" Stanford coaching staff cannot prove sooner rather than later that they can actually do "more with more" ... then I think that Jan's selling pitch will continue to be able to gain "steam."
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