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Iowa's new NCAA seeding

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Is Iowa in danger of falling to the dreaded 8-9 slot or worse not making the tourney?
 
I can't really see worse than a 6-7 seed with the field this year and the quality wins on their resume. No way they miss the tournament.
 
Even if they did drop to an 8 or 9, is there a 1 seed that scares anyone this year? No. This is going to be a year where a lot of people will be ripping up their brackets after the first weekend, only to find out on Monday that they didn't do as bad as they thought. No dominant teams this year will make an entertaining March.

Look at MSU. Three weeks ago they were in 7th in the Big Ten and ranked 8th in the country. Now they're ranked second. If Iowa can find their stroke and knock down shots like they were three weeks ago, they can beat anyone. In my opinion, seeding won't matter as much this year. It's all about playing well and knocking down shots.
 
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The Committee takes into account how a team ends their year, so if we end on a 6 game losing streak (including the B1G tourney), I could see us in a play-in game as a 11 seed. We would be 20-11.
 
The Committee takes into account how a team ends their year, so if we end on a 6 game losing streak (including the B1G tourney), I could see us in a play-in game as a 11 seed. We would be 20-11.
This is completely false. It is the body of work over the whole season. This was clarified several years ago, which is why you no longer see the last 10 games stressed. Maybe indirectly it is still there to a limited extent just because any recent "eye test" isn't going to look as good. Iowa could lose out and will certainly be wearing home uniforms for the 1st game.
 
Is Iowa in danger of falling to the dreaded 8-9 slot or worse not making the tourney?

You are losing any sense of rationality. I'm sorry, no one in their right mind would even consider posing that question.
 
Win the next 2 and I can see them at the 3 or 4.

Lose the next 2 and they move into that 5, 6 range.

Bounce in first B10 tourney game, 6,7
 
Some seeds and spots are obviously more advantageous this year given opening round is within the state. If anything this regular season has taught us however, is that there are no elite teams out there. We have just as much chance as going deep or winning as about 15-20 other teams do.

Some of you sound like the season is over. Remember, UCONN won the whole thing as a 6 seed I believe a couple of years ago.
 
How does a team finish conference play 1-6 and get a 5 seed? Does that really happen much?

Of course I hope we don't have to find out :)
 
The only thing that matters with seeding this year is where you play your games. I have no idea how the committee is doing things this year. The field is wide open, so seed doesn't matter. What matters is the Hawkeyes would be best off playing in Des Moines and Chicago. Possibly St. Louis.
 
Seeding will still matter. Never an exact science and maybe even less so this year, but it will still matter.
 
Is Iowa in danger of falling to the dreaded 8-9 slot or worse not making the tourney?

The Committee takes into account how a team ends their year, so if we end on a 6 game losing streak (including the B1G tourney), I could see us in a play-in game as a 11 seed. We would be 20-11.

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These are things you say right after a game as overreactions on twitter or to your buddies. Not something you say 24 hours after, that is well past the cool down period
 
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The Committee takes into account how a team ends their year, so if we end on a 6 game losing streak (including the B1G tourney), I could see us in a play-in game as a 11 seed. We would be 20-11.
First of all, there are no play in games. Can we please stop with that?

I am assuming the Hawks drop the last two (reasonable, considering their play of late) and 0-1 wins in the Big 10 tournament. I feel this will drop them to a 7 at best, 9 at worst.
 
First of all, there are no play in games. Can we please stop with that?

I am assuming the Hawks drop the last two (reasonable, considering their play of late) and 0-1 wins in the Big 10 tournament. I feel this will drop them to a 7 at best, 9 at worst.
What else do you call them? Why are you so sensitive about that? I think you're the one who needs to stop on that point. Everyone knows the tournament proper starts on Thursday with 64 teams. Contests ignore the First Four and only count the 63 games after. Whether you call them First Four, Round 0, warmups, preludes, or play-ins really doesn't matter. Even the obtuse NCAA has returned to naming Thurs/Fri as Round 1. Your campaign against this nomenclature has become Quixotic.

We will not be a 9. Bank it.
 
This is completely false. It is the body of work over the whole season. This was clarified several years ago, which is why you no longer see the last 10 games stressed. Maybe indirectly it is still there to a limited extent just because any recent "eye test" isn't going to look as good. Iowa could lose out and will certainly be wearing home uniforms for the 1st game.

Are you sure about this? Its only human nature for the committee to look at how teams are trending. Sure, its the overall body of work, but I think it would be foolish to think the committee would dismiss how a team is playing down the stretch. Like in college football, its not always about who you lose to, its more about when you lose. Lose early and it isn't as big of a deal, lose late in the season and its magnified.
 
Seeding may have less significance this year than most, but playing in DsM and/or entering the NCAA with confidence is important. I gotta believe the NCAA officials will call a tighter game, unless other conferences are seeing the same officiating tendencies we are seeing in the B1G.
 
Two more losses and a loss in the first game of B1G tourney would drop us to 6-7 seed or maybe even 8/9 range as we will certainly not be looked at as a top 25 team at that point. Our RPI has dropped from top 10 to 21 and the next three games will not help this so we have to hope that teams we played earlier in the year stay where they are too. Our SOS has also fallen to 38. Lets be realistic, all factors that are considered including rankings, conference standings, RPI, SOS are trending downward. While the "eye test" is not supposed to be a factor, everyone in the country is seeing the free fall this team is currently experiencing so it will be easy to forget the victories over MSU and Purdue despite the metrics involved (those almost feel like last season at this time to be honest).

It would certainly help the Hawks to finish with a top 4 seed for B1G tourney and get the double bye. It would avoid the potential loss to a very poor team in the first game of the tourney is the slide does continue.
 
How does a team finish conference play 1-6 and get a 5 seed? Does that really happen much?

Of course I hope we don't have to find out :)

Look at the bubble? Are they really going to put a bubble team at a 5 seed? The mid-majors are also weak, there are non that are screaming out at you. Usually they would save the 5 seed for a mid-major who is having a great year. Hell didn't UNI have something like 30 wins last year and were a 5 seed?

The bubble is weak, the mid-majors are not there. I think if Iowa does finish 1-6 they will be a 5 or 6 seed at worst.
 
My biggest concern isn't their seed, it's the fact that they're 7-7 away from home which is every game after tonight.
 
My biggest concern isn't their seed, it's the fact that they're 7-7 away from home which is every game after tonight.

But to be fair not a lot of teams are winning on the road this year. The Big 12, Big 10, ACC, Big East, not a lot of the top teams have won on the road. The NCAA will be a neutral site game, where I think the hawks are 2-2 this year? Orlando (1-2) and Wells fargo (1-0).
 
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