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Iowas wins are impressive and their "bad loss" isnt that bad

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I think they are in.

How many conference or conference tourney champs or teams that were in their conf championship game did iowa play?

Juat saw that N Dakota won their tourney. Iowa beat them by 11.

Iowa state won their conference tourney. Iowa blew them out.

Wisconsin is in the championship game vs Michigan. Iowa beat them both.

Purdue won the b1g. Iowa best them.

The "bad loss" vs Omaha turned out to be not so bad. Wish they would have won their tourney.


Others?
 
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terrehawk said:
I think they are in.

How many conference or conference tourney champs or teams that were in their conf championship game did iowa play?

Juat saw that N Dakota won their tourney. Iowa beat them by 11.

Iowa state won their conference tourney. Iowa blew them out.

Wisconsin is in the championship game vs Michigan. Iowa beat them both.

Purdue won the b1g. Iowa best them.

The "bad loss" vs Omaha turned out to be not so bad. Wish they would have won their tourney.


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No others but i thought north dacota lost in their championship game for some reason but maybe i read the final score. Omaha just lost by 2. They should be in over cuse!

But they are out, unless they take into account cooks absence in a Some early
Losses. I give them a 2 percenhÿt chance of getting in. But I am fine with the NIT, when we were a game up 14-13 I was thinking we would be at ..500.

Next year i will be dissatisfied if we don't make it as I see us improving a lot to a 6th aeed and hopefully breaking our sweet 16 drought. Following year 2-3 seed and winning the conferance.

Go Iowa!!
 
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Yet Syracuse will, and...please don't stop...its resume is NOT as good as Iowa's. Syracuse got in the same way last year. It had NO business in the tourney, but -- get this -- the committee took into account that Syracuse lost a couple games while Boeheim was suspended! No, really, that was the spin. So if you think the committee couldn't, or shouldn't consider factors such as Iowa had some injuries (Cook, Jok), that it is one of the youngest teams in the country and has improved tremendously since December, and that it got cheated out of a win @ Minnesota, well, then you don't know how politics works. Of course, none of that is so compelling as not having your head coach for a few games. :rolleyes:

And let us not forget UCLA last year. NO resume whatsoever, but the Bruins made it, and they didn't even have to do the play-in thing. Total BS.

So please, don't tell the OP or anyone else that "Iowa isn't getting in." They aren't, but it's not because of a lack of precedent. It's because of a lack of political power in the committee. This year's Iowa team has a better resume and is MORE deserving of making the NCAA field than those Syracuse and UCLA teams were and that Syracuse is again. Spin that. :confused:
 
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aristotleiowa said:
Yet Syracuse will, and...please don't stop...its resume is NOT as good as Iowa's. Syracuse got in the same way last year. It had NO business in the tourney, but -- get this -- the committee took into account that Syracuse lost a couple games while Boeheim was suspended! No, really, that was the spin. So if you think the committee couldn't, or shouldn't consider factors such as Iowa had some injuries (Cook, Jok), that it is one of the youngest teams in the country and has improved tremendously since December, and that it got cheated out of a win @ Minnesota, well, then you don't know how politics works. Of course, none of that is so compelling as not having your head coach for a few games. :rolleyes:

And let us not forget UCLA last year. NO resume whatsoever, but the Bruins made it, and they didn't even have to do the play-in thing. Total BS.

So please, don't tell the OP or anyone else that "Iowa isn't getting in." They aren't, but it's not because of a lack of precedent. It's because of a lack of political power in the committee. This year's Iowa team has a better resume and is MORE deserving of making the NCAA field than those Syracuse and UCLA teams were and that Syracuse is again. Spin that. :confused:
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And those 2 teams you are using as an example? Basketball blue bloods. The committee is going to use any excuse they can think of to justify letting undeserving blue bloods in. Just don't fall into the trap of thinking that same "reasoning" will be applied to Iowa. It won't.

If you think the committee cares that Iowa had a couple of injuries, I'd like to give you a good deal on the Brooklyn Bridge. As for Iowa being "cheated" out of a win at Minnesota.......do you honestly think they are even aware of the circumstances of that game? All they know is...Iowa lost it.
 
HeRKeYHoPeFuL said:
83 - why do you care if other people maintain hope? I agree that we probably won't get it, but to blanket say that we can't is silly. There are certain metrics that make the argument we should be in. Other metrics say we shouldn't, so why piss in other people's cheerios?
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If people want to continue holding on to false hopes, that is their right. I am trying to temper their inevitable disappointment. But you are right....it ain't over until Rosie O'Donnell sings, so the Hawks aren't "officially" eliminated until 5:00.
 
So I should expect a 5:00 "told you so" post from you if we don't hit on our 5-10% chance of being the last team in?
 
While I think we're NIT bound, I truly hope the committee scrubs the resumes of the bubble teams at a more granular level than the more obvious qualifiers. I firmly believe that Iowa has more 'out of their control' events that the other bubble teams, especially the MN game.
 
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General Tso said:
While I think we're NIT bound, I truly hope the committee scrubs the resumes of the bubble teams at a more granular level than the more obvious qualifiers. I firmly believe that Iowa has more 'out of their control' events that the other bubble teams, especially the MN game.
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Its just the RPI that is separating those teams. If you compare the teams w/out RPI its neck and neck. There is not one team above the other. All bubble teams have "bad losses" all bubble teams have similar records vs 50-100. The only area Iowa has an advantage is the vs top 50. They have 1-2 more than all other bubble teams (except Cuse). Rhode Island & ILL St have hardly any top 50 wins and their non-conf schedules were pretty weak.

The whole reason Iowa's RPI is so bad is because the Big Ten had a bad non-conf. The other leagues Big 12, Pac 12, ACC, all had good non-conf and they all have teams rated in the top 15. So that drives all those teams SOS up and their RPI's.
 
83Hawk said:
If people want to continue holding on to false hopes, that is their right. I am trying to temper their inevitable disappointment. But you are right....it ain't over until Rosie O'Donnell sings, so the Hawks aren't "officially" eliminated until 5:00.
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Thanks dad!
 
Rather win some games in the NIT than get lose first round of NCAA. We're not going anywhere this season and to get some more practice and experience for this young team is what I'm after at this point.
 
I look at the indiana loss as a road loss to another big ten team. We didnt get a home and away game vs them so there it is. Although I believe we could be in the Dance. I think we are most likely a 2 seed in the NIT. Either way it was a very fun year lots of ups and downs and lots of learning for out youngsters. Next year will be a blast Im sure.
 
Seven teams to the NCAA Dance: Wisconsin,
Purdue, Maryland, Minnesota, Northwestern,
Michigan, and Michigan St.

Three teams to the NIT Prom: Iowa, Illinois,
and Indiana.

Four teams in Basketball Hell: Rutgers, Ohio St.
Nebraska, and Penn St.
 
icwesthawk said:
Rather win some games in the NIT than get lose first round of NCAA. We're not going anywhere this season and to get some more practice and experience for this young team is what I'm after at this point.
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While I don't think Iowa is getting in, they certainly have the capability of making a run. Iowa is capable of playing with just about anyone in the tourney.

Damnit. If only we could have a couple of them back.
 
What the committee did last year with Tulsa & Syracuse makes it even a little bit of a chance that Iowa gets in. Last year it seemed they placed an emphasis on "who you beat."

You just never know what the committee is going to do. What metric did they look at the most?? I realize the Big 10 is "down" but having 5 top 50 wins is not that bad.

I have to think Iowa is probably 1 of the last 4 teams being discussed. Contrary to what Lunardi, Palm, and others are saying. You do know Lunardi will change his final bracket 20min before its announced. I think he has a "mole" inside the committee room who leaks it before its announced so Joe looks smart.
 
Agree with the consensus that we're not getting in - but if Syracuse does it is simply because they are Syracuse. TV sets still mean everything and 'Cuse brings more than Iowa.

Resume wise the last 5-6 teams are interchangeable, Iowa needed to win one, probably two games in the B10 tourney to be comfotably in, but got woodshed-ed instead and I think sealed their fate.
 
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Agree with the consensus that we're not getting in - but if Syracuse does it is simply because they are Syracuse. TV sets still mean everything and 'Cuse brings more than Iowa.

Resume wise the last 5-6 teams are interchangeable, Iowa needed to win one, probably two games in the B10 tourney to be comfotably in, but got woodshed-ed instead and I think sealed their fate.
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Yup agree. This team all season was so close.
 
If I were Fran and my sons got blasted by a lot of fans I would go to a different school he would be a hot commodity, and if this does happen the mods will have a war on their hands. I hope they are aware of this. Need to ban the haters.
 
FairfIowafan1984 said:
If I were Fran and my sons got blasted by a lot of fans I would go to a different school he would be a hot commodity, and if this does happen the mods will have a war on their hands. I hope they are aware of this. Need to ban the haters.
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Wrong thread.

BTW, if you don't think these things don't happen at every school in that situation, you would be sadly mistaken. ***if you want to respond to this, take it to the other thread
 
terrehawk said:
Wrong thread.

BTW, if you don't think these things don't happen at every school in that situation, you would be sadly mistaken. ***if you want to respond to this, take it to the other thread
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I write in a lot of threads and very tired today. I'm aware this happens at every school. Why do you gotta be such an "Richard Pitino"though about it? When someone makes a mistake your just one of those people huh?? Well I'm sure ur wife absolutely loves you to death! Hopefully you don't have kids that make any mistakes.
 
DavenportHawk8 said:
What the committee did last year with Tulsa & Syracuse makes it even a little bit of a chance that Iowa gets in. Last year it seemed they placed an emphasis on "who you beat."

You just never know what the committee is going to do. What metric did they look at the most?? I realize the Big 10 is "down" but having 5 top 50 wins is not that bad.

I have to think Iowa is probably 1 of the last 4 teams being discussed. Contrary to what Lunardi, Palm, and others are saying. You do know Lunardi will change his final bracket 20min before its announced. I think he has a "mole" inside the committee room who leaks it before its announced so Joe looks smart.
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The thing that ticks me off, is every year it is something different. One year it is who you beat..another year it is bad losses...a third year it is RPI. They should apply the same criteria every year. Better yet, just let every team in.
 
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My hunch is Iowa doesn't get in but I believe the line is very close. Say last 4 in versus last 4 out kinda thing, I believe Iowa actually fits in that group somewhere.

In a year where the mid-major at-large field is woefully weak with a load of P5 teams with similar records, anything can happen. It might actually be a lot closer call than the pundits are giving it.

If Syracuse gets in and Iowa doesn't though, I will scream bloody murder.
 
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terrehawk said:
Wrong thread.

BTW, if you don't think these things don't happen at every school in that situation, you would be sadly mistaken. ***if you want to respond to this, take it to the other thread
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Also Iowa fans are more intelligent basketball/football fans to an overall smarter than most states/school. I hold Iowa to a higher standard, your name sticks out to me I think a few weeks ago I called you out for being a bad fan or something along those lines. It might not be you just remember the names of the haters and I remember your name. Also remember the names of posters K like so maybe it's that I like your posts too.

But if your to bad of a Fran/team hater and plain idiot I will put you on ignore list. About 9-10 on that list. 4 months ago had a guy that was so mad at me for sticking up for Iowa before the Michigan game in football he would only reply to only me and my messages with the same type of dumb remarks after a week I put him on ignore list.

There are terrible fans in all banbases but i just think Iowa has less, and are more knowledgable.

But like I said so sorry for my mistake! Don't want to ruin your day I'm so tired dealing with a sick child and my wife got wasted last night so I was on duty got few hours of sleep.

Also who do you think you are telling me what to do and to not respond to a guy on his period?
 
Iowas quality wins are impressive also two on the road! We beat the some conference tourney champ winners!

Iowas quality wins by far trump their losses plus weren't they without cook? Love it when it's a Duke or Syracuse they will say committee will take into effect that so and so wasn't playing on that loss. But not a single mention of Iowa without cook. Cuse got in because a COACH not PLAYER missed 9'games due to cheating!!

NCAA is a joke and the joke is played out and not funny. It's all about ratings not resumes for the final teams. Cuse should be around a 3 seed in the NIT. There's 10 teams with a better resume than them. But are one of the most popular schools so they equal money which equals them getting in the only talk about quality wins for cuse but they have worse RPI and resume than Iowa. Just same record.

I don't think Iowa should get in, I hope they do but the won't, and shouldn't but neither should Cuse.
 
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