It’s not a moot point. Right now the math doesn’t add up or make any sense. You seem to be ok with that. Maybe that makes you a moron.
IRS reports collecting $1 billion from rich households’ back taxes
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It's hilarious to see someone with no clue of how something works spew out nonsense
No, a moron would let rich fvcks keep cheating on their taxes.... that seems like you
So because you don’t want rich fvcks to have more money, you think it is smart for the Government to spend 60 billion and 5.7 billion in order to get back 1 billion? I would like to do some business with you. Lol
What makes you think tax cheats would pay a flat tax?
The point here is that people are not paying the taxes they owe. That needs to be rectified.
Are you suggesting the IRS should be done away with completely? No, funding whatsoever? Because that's your argument here.
The IRS has been severely underfunded for many, many years. A good portion of this funding is to build the infrastructure needed to service taxpayers overall. Some focus is being made to bring in revenue by making people pay what they owe who have not been doing so.
Why do you, personally, want to continue to allow tax cheats to game the system?
How much does it cost to fund the IRS just to process taxes?
How much revenue does the IRS bring in overall?
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An employee produces for one year, but is paid for years afterward and later production doesn’t count.
What?
Do you only count the production of your staff for one year, but then compare that to the lifetime of their effort.?
Does not compute.
Jeez Dude. What kind of take are you pushing?
An employee produces for one year, but is paid for years afterward and later production doesn’t count.
What?
Do you only count the production of your staff for one year, but then compare that to the lifetime of their effort.?
Does not compute.
There is clearly an investment required on the front end, so expenses will outpace collections.
Arguing otherwise is like asking why spend money building out a sales team because the revenues won’t come in for months or years?
As far as taxes, I get equally pissed at tax cheats as I do people who stole PPA funds during COVID or those scumbags who walk out of Target or Home Depot with a full cart they haven’t paid for. Sick of all types of people thinking stealing is a-ok if it’s to my benefit.
Arguing otherwise is like asking why spend money building out a sales team because the revenues won’t come in for months or years?
As far as taxes, I get equally pissed at tax cheats as I do people who stole PPA funds during COVID or those scumbags who walk out of Target or Home Depot with a full cart they haven’t paid for. Sick of all types of people thinking stealing is a-ok if it’s to my benefit.
Absolutely I would. Treat all income the same and tax it the same percentage. Straightforward, transparent, simple and easy to audit.
Some are outright cheating but the bigger abuse is using loopholes and creative ways to try and avoid taxes and going over the line with our overly complex tax code. A simple flat tax on all income eliminates those issues and makes it a hell of a lot easier for the IRS to audit.
I disagree. Using the tax code is allowed……just be ready to pay up (plus penalty) when ruled against…..Flat-taxes sound easy/fair…..they ain’t…not top the poor and middle classes….The IRS needs more employees top audit….rich and corporations pay their lawyers MILLIONS $$ in fees to save them money…..lets just play the audit game o n an even playing field. Strong enforcement of the IRS rules will even things out over time……..Folks “cheat” on their taxes because they can get by with it.
So should the FBI not prosecute a bank robbery if they can’t make a profit? If there is a rash of robberies in a certain area they shouldn’t spend more to increase enforcement unless they can make a profit?
Your hatred of all things government is showing through.
So, just so we are clear. No more tax deductions on donations to churches? No more business deductions. You can’t incorporate to save on taxes.
Pretty much the way it's gone in California with allowing shoplifters up to 1000K before they even think about prosecuting...
You got it. Treat ALL income just like people, equal. So much simpler and transparent.
Good luck with that! Businesses and wealthy will never tolerate that…and honestly, it doesn’t make good economic sense. Sounds good but another “there are not simple answers to complex questions”…
That simply won’t work. At all. Example. I have about 23k in 1099 income a year. Of that, 10k or so are fees I pay to perform the service. If I have to pay taxes on that it just wouldn’t work.
No, you are confused by the difference between revenue and net income. I’m not suggesting you pay taxes on revenue.
But your suggestion is that all is treated as income/taxable…that was your “inference”…the current tax code is a hodge-podge of ways to attempt to separate revenue (deductions) from income…some how too much “income” gets converted to “wealth” without being taxed….(understand in America we tax “income” we do not tax “wealth”)…
Surprisingly many of the uber rich are Democrats.
But I bet you know that.
If those taxes are owed then they should be pursued and collected. It’s the right thing.
Now - let’s move on to how many Federal workers owe tax money too. It’s shocking.
I don’t think you understand what a flat tax is. A flat tax applies to all income. If I can deduct things from an income prior to the tax it isn’t a flat tax.
There’s nothing inherently different between federal workers and private workers. Some of them owe taxes. Those taxes need to be collected. The problem would be if those federal workers were being treated differently. I don’t believe that’s the case.
I get that. If they are using privilege to avoid they need to be bitch slapped. Otherwise they are just another taxpayer. I don’t think they should be treated any differently.
It is not unusual for folks to “owe” IRS $$ ut due to audits and unusual tax events many folks experience…Give the IRS equal opportunity to investigate potential tax fraud. Right now in most cases, the IRS is greatly outmanned in such investigations.
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