I predicted this would happen and it seems the ACC may be the first to give the Blue Bloods a higher percentage of the TV revenue. This is not good news for schools like us.
Is equal revenue sharing coming to an end?
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I predicted this would happen and it seems the ACC may be the first to give the Blue Bloods a higher percentage of the TV revenue. This is not good news for schools like us.
The ACC is going to do whatever it has to in order to just survive.
I do think the B1G will eventually go to unequal distribution of CFP/bowl payouts, giving the teams that actually earned the CFP/bowl money higher cuts than those that didn't, which is completely fair.
I highly doubt we'll see the B1G go to unequal revenue distribution from the media deal.
I do think the B1G will eventually go to unequal distribution of CFP/bowl payouts, giving the teams that actually earned the CFP/bowl money higher cuts than those that didn't, which is completely fair.
I highly doubt we'll see the B1G go to unequal revenue distribution from the media deal.
Seems unlikely that the haves will go on indefinitely agreeing to it.
Just look to the NFL and NBA for the guide as to how this will go. There is a benefit to all in maintaining the viability of franchises. That doesn't mean they all get an equal distribution of the wealth.
There will be some settling out where the less wealthy/small market teams get less revenue. This is pro sports. It's most likely going to behave a lot like other pro sports.
Just look to the NFL and NBA for the guide as to how this will go. There is a benefit to all in maintaining the viability of franchises. That doesn't mean they all get an equal distribution of the wealth.
There will be some settling out where the less wealthy/small market teams get less revenue. This is pro sports. It's most likely going to behave a lot like other pro sports.
Right. Like the B1G is going to follow in the footsteps of what the ACC does. Not. You realize their doing this is simple a attempt to keep Clemson and FSU in the conference right. This is very similar to what happened with the Texas ten when they gave Texas and Ok what they wanted and how'd that go? Oh yea, they ended up leaving the little 12 anyway. Why would OSU and Michigan want to leave the B1G? They're in the catbird seat now. And where are they going to go? If it gets to that point where they leave, it would be to set up some super conf with the top of the SEC teams, and then we won't be involved anyway, which frankly might be the best thing to happen. Let the top 8-10 teams try to make it on their own, and watch what happens when some of them start losing 6 or 7 games every year because they don't have Iowa or Minnesota or Missouri or Vandy on their schedule...
So why don't the NFL teams do the same? They all don't "make" the same money or drive same numbers of eye balls. They don't because the "owners" know they need everyone to keep it all entertaining and drawing those eye balls.
You point to the ACC which is trying to keep from breaking up, much like the Pac 10 did and it ain't gonna work.
You point to the ACC which is trying to keep from breaking up, much like the Pac 10 did and it ain't gonna work.
The Big10 isn’t the NFL. There is no other option for teams in the NFL to leverage. All teams in every conference have other potential landing spots. Plus TV networks appear to be driving this towards smaller and smaller super leagues. I don’t know what part of realignment has taught you that teams are generally willing to do what’s better for the whole over their own selfish interests.
Why didn't they go unequal media revenue a few years ago when the renegotiated the current B1G media deal? That thing ended up being I think around $8 billion. It's not like the "haves" didn't know they were the "haves" when that deal was made.
The B1G is the best and richest conference in college sports. The other conferences that have played around with unequal media revenue distribution (ACC, Big 12) are positioned to either collapse soon (ACC) or are not close to the same level as the B1G and SEC (Big 12). It's baffling to me why people think the B1G is going to abandon the approach and operating philosophy that has gotten them into the position they're in, and follow the lead of conferences that have clearly shown that, in the end, that sh*t just doesn't work.
But I guess we'll find out in 2030.
Agree totally. The B1G model of Delany has been VERY beneficial to all parties. Don't see why they'd scrap it. REMEMBER, you need teams on your schedule you THINK your sure to beat if you want to play for the brass ring. Do people REALLY think that OSU and Bama want to play a round robbin of the other top 6-8 teams every year? Going to be a LOT of losers in that scenario...
Yep, the superconference with only elite bluebloods is a popular talking point but it will never happen. Conferences need elites and need cannon fodder. I do think we could see an unequal split of CFP and bowl revenue, which IMO would be completely fair and I think would make the "haves" happy.
I wonder if conference TV and other deals will disappear, and each school will go it alone financially.
Just don't see it. Thats basically what Texas did to the 12. Any changes to the conference would have to be ratified by ALL conference schools presidents I believe. Do you think that Iowa, Ill, Wisc, MSU, Nebraska are going to vote for that or for unequal pay distribution? Hardly. In the big 12 they agreed to let Texas bend them over so they'd stay. (Then they left ayway). Thats not going to happen in the B1G. Why would they? Even so, just WHO would the "elite teams" be? Just OSU, Michigan? Do you think Oregon wants a piece of that? Do you think that any conference school is going to vote to give one of the Johnny come lately's like Oregon or USC a larger share? Lolol.. Thats not going to happen. That leaves them with the option of pulling out of the B1G. And go where exactly? The super conference? And play who for 13 games? Other teams that are just as likely to hang a loss on them every week? Not.....
I don't think there's probably a bigger national CFB brand than Notre Dame.
In ND's recently renegotiated TV deal, they got $50 mill/year from NBC. They'll add to that $17 mill/year payout from the ACC media deal.
So Notre Dame will be making $67 mill/year for their media rights. That's significantly less than most B1G teams will be making on the back end of their media deal ($80-$100 mill/year). Yeah I get that if ND makes waves in the CFP like they did this year, they keep it all to themselves, which is great. But what about years that ND doesn't make a deep run in the CFP, or doesn't make the CFP at all? They get zilch. B1G teams get a cut of CFP and bowl money no matter if they make a bowl or not.
I can't see going independent as an attractive option for most if not all B1G schools.
You can't have a 10 team only model. It don't work. You need upwards of 30 closer to NFL and revenue share.
What happens in a few years when that 30 team superleague of the nation's best programs has established a clear top half and a clear bottom half? That will inevitably happen. Won't those top-15 programs get tired of carrying the bottom 15 and splitting the pot with all that dead weight? Then if/when the top half splits off to create its own superduperconference, and the same thing happens with a top half and bottom half, won't those top 7-8 teams get tired of carrying the bottom half and decide to split off to secure even more $$$ for themselves? Rinse, repeat.
This is why I don't buy the elite superconference of bluebloods happening. Because after a while, half of those bluebloods won't be bluebloods anymore. Their programs will be diminished, their brands will be diminished, they won't command the viewership they once did because they're .500 programs.
If it's pure greed that would drive all these bluebloods to form their own superconference, why would anyone think that greed would suddenly go away when half of those bluebloods aren't bluebloods anymore?
Wow! someone who gets it. Most of these guys are smart enough to understand, SOMEONE has to lose. If its a new conference of the elite, a bunch of them aren't going to be elite before too long. Who knows though, I thought Texas and Oklahoma were out of their minds for joining the SEC just for the payday. I think Texas can hang, but It wouldn't surprise me to see Oklahoma become basically Iowa in the SEC. 8-4, 9-3, and making a run every 5 or 6 years only to fall short.
we'll see. My opinion hasn't changed since conferences started poaching. if I'm wrong you are right. 🤷♂️
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I could see conferences going away or morphing into much more of a background entity. I do think that a line will be drawn at some point and only those with adequate resources need apply.
I could see the upper teams of big 10 demand TV revenue to be somewhat based on ratings for the games.
At that point the lesser teams will gladly agree because behind closed doors it will be “take this deal or a super league will form that you will not be a part of”.
At that point the lesser teams will gladly agree because behind closed doors it will be “take this deal or a super league will form that you will not be a part of”.
Less than 0 percent chance of happening. That's basically an RSN model that is got baseball on edge as it fails
A stand alone 12 or 14 team league where they just try to vacuum up all the money???? You really think that would work long term? Delusional.
Little bigger.
That NFL will never catch on with only a limited number of teams in large media markets.
I'll bet that doesn't happen. The "super conf" will not work because several of those teams will HAVE to lose, and thus damage their own brand. Really bad idea....
And quite frankly that might just be the best case scenario for teams like Iowa. To reset into a grouping of D1 teams where we COULD win it all. Let the top 10 teams go off on their own and literally eat themselves from within. Several of those teams would instantly become big losers....
If this happens to a founding member of the BIG I will never watch a college football game again. It’s always made the Big Ten great…they’re all in it together.
The Harlem Globetrotters needed the Washington Generals - but I bet the paychecks were not the same.
