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Is Garza Another Megan Gustafson?

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Megan Gustafson went down in history as the greatest women's basketball player in Hawekeye history. She was named the national player of the year in 2019 after leading the nation in points per game (27.9) and field goal percentage (69.6). She also led the Hawks to the Elite 8.

With all of those accolades, however, her game didn't translate to the WNBA. She was drafted something like 17th overall, which was lower than most expected for the national player of the year, then 3 days later the team that drafted her cut her. The explanations given were that she dominated college opponents based on her size, but her game was ineffective for the WNBA.

Garza absolutely dominated the Big 10 this year unlike any Hawk in most of our lifetimes. He's been named him the national player of the year by some publications, and had double doubles in almost every Big 10 game.

Surprisingly, he's been in college for 3 years (a long time, by college all-American standards), yet we're not hearing draft analysts rave about the guy.

No one has a crystal ball, but the question lingers, is Garza a Gustafson (star in college, but destined for European basketball) or can his game flourish in the NBA? Unlike Gustafson, he can hit 3 pointers at a pretty good clip. On the other hand, Gustafson was a much better free throw shooter, rebounder, and shot blocker, statistically. Time will tell, and the board's homers will be triggered to their safe zones at the very question, but it's a valid one.
 
Size, speed, quickness, strength, quite a few nba players have a combo of all those things and then on top of that can play basketball really well! When you lack any of those attributes in the NBA you have to do all the fundamental things really really good.. like be a great passer, great ball handler, great shooter, super high basketball iQ.. I wish Luka the very best once he ventures into the next level... he has no quit and superior hustle and work ethic and grit!
 
The nba is just a very different game than college so allot doesn't translate between the two.

I've heard some nba coaches say that they think post offense is a waste of time.

That said offense isnt the issue, he could score in the nba. But Europe and the G league is full of guys who could score in the nba.

If Luka was a strong defender he'd be an nba player for sure.
 
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She certainly did, I was just saying it's not because of her size.
Well there is size, and then there's height. 6'3" is pretty tall for a college player and she was a good sized gal, but she wasn't overly athletic like the ladies in the WNBA, and not taller then most of the posts in that league.
 
The nba is just a very different game than college so allot doesn't translate between the two.

I've heard some nba coaches say that they think post offense is a waste of time.

That said offense isnt the issue, he could score in the nba. But Europe and the G league is full of guys who could score in the nba.

If Luka was a strong defender he'd be an nba player for sure.
The NBA and its coaches and players only have themselves to blame for the post game getting destroyed.

Players keep getting faster and stronger and we got 6'8" PGs now and more freedom of movement/less fouls called because it's not exciting, and the whole lane restrictions for both offense and defense which opens the lane more for guards to drive, so they don't need to sit back and feed post players, which takes away from those guards being able to do all the flashy moves and shoot 3s from f***ing 30+ feet away........
 
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Megan was re-signed and forged a nice role over the last month or so of the WNBA season. There are only 12 teams, 12 players each, making roster spots hard to secure for anybody not a sure-fire star.

With the exception of the day-one starters, for incoming players it's about timing and fit. I imagine it will be this way for Luka. But I could not care less. I don't see the value in forecasting—I prefer to just enjoy college athletes as college athletes.

Sure hope I get to watch Luka at Iowa one more year. Sad that Kathleen Doyle and Mackenzie Meyer and Amanda Olinger are done. I was thinking both men and women, with some luck, could make runs into the second weekend.
 
Megan Gustafson went down in history as the greatest women's basketball player in Hawekeye history. She was named the national player of the year in 2019 after leading the nation in points per game (27.9) and field goal percentage (69.6). She also led the Hawks to the Elite 8.

With all of those accolades, however, her game didn't translate to the WNBA. She was drafted something like 17th overall, which was lower than most expected for the national player of the year, then 3 days later the team that drafted her cut her. The explanations given were that she dominated college opponents based on her size, but her game was ineffective for the WNBA.

Garza absolutely dominated the Big 10 this year unlike any Hawk in most of our lifetimes. He's been named him the national player of the year by some publications, and had double doubles in almost every Big 10 game.

Surprisingly, he's been in college for 3 years (a long time, by college all-American standards), yet we're not hearing draft analysts rave about the guy.

No one has a crystal ball, but the question lingers, is Garza a Gustafson (star in college, but destined for European basketball) or can his game flourish in the NBA? Unlike Gustafson, he can hit 3 pointers at a pretty good clip. On the other hand, Gustafson was a much better free throw shooter, rebounder, and shot blocker, statistically. Time will tell, and the board's homers will be triggered to their safe zones at the very question, but it's a valid one.

Doesn’t matter.

What matters, is that Garza and Gustafson start dating, get married, and have 8 kids who all eventually become Hawkeyes.
 
When will Wooden and Naismith awards be announced? With no tourney, will they move their dates up?
 
Imagine Garza getting pulled out to the perimeter to defend the pick n roll in the NBA... That's your answer.
Good point.

..Luka shoots pretty well from all spots on the floor at his height (at least 6'10") so I think he has a chance to carve out a reserve role in the NBA.

Those guys are just so damn athletic with pretty darn good ball skills - Garza might have to work on his ball-handling and maybe drop a few pounds enabling him to guard outside of the post.

If he continues to show his grit and toughness and has a very good/healthy senior year.. he'll make it!

I think Luka's game is similar to Tyler Hansbrough's was at UNC, but better, and Hansbrough stuck for a few seasons and made a little professional $$.
 
I don't watch the NBA so I won't assess Luka's chances to excel there, but what I do know is if he comes back next season , he has a good chance to be Iowa's All-Time Leading Scorer, which covers a lot of ground and a record that might stand for decades.
Selfishly, I hope Luka comes back, not only for the obvious boost he would give the team, but especially because of all the Iowa players I've watched during my life, and that's a lot of them, there is no player I have enjoyed watching more. His dedication to improve and his constant all out attitude on the court have been a joy to watch. I liked him as a freshman and to watch him bloom into the star he has become has been a real delight. One more year, Luka! Finish what you started!
 
I'm not sure how Luka will do in the NBA. What I am certain of, is that the only way we'll ever be able to predict his future is an in depth analysis of a women's basketball player that happened to go to the same school. Let's stay on that tact and not lose focus here.
 
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I doubt he comes back. Go get paid and play a long career overseas . Doesn’t take a genius to realize his game is too slow to transition to the NBA
 
Based on nothing but my own intuition, I think he comes back. I doubt he wants for much with his father here and I think he really enjoys the Iowa experience and college in general.
I wonder when he will make the announcement of his decision.
 
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Based on nothing but my own intuition, I think he comes back. I doubt he wants for much with his father here and I think he really enjoys the Iowa experience and college in general.
I wonder when he will make the announcement of his decision.

I'm sure it's around the 15th of April or there about's.....as Iowa fans we'll know by that time, good or bad...
P.S. non senior players that want to be included in this years NBA draft on the 25th of June have to declare at least 60 days before....which is by the 26th of April.
 
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Frank Kaminsky was a first-round pick five years ago and still playing in the NBA. Luka would be at least as good.

Some differences. Kaminsky shot nearly 42% from 3-point range his final year. Averaged over 2.5 assists per game. Garza at 36% on 3's and just a bit over 1 assist per game. Kaminsky was also 7 feet tall and a better ball-handler.

I love Garza, but he would not be as good as Kaminsky in the NBA (my opinion). Shorter, poorer shooter, worse ball-handler. Kaminsky moves better. Kaminsky is a rotation player averaging nearly 10 points a game in his NBA career.

Anything could happen of course if Garza had some additional improvement. But you can't get taller and Garza has improved his ability to move a bunch the last 3 years, but still would have trouble defending NBA players. But kind of silly to pick apart a guy's game now. Doesn't lessen how great of a college player Garza was this year.
 
I doubt he comes back. Go get paid and play a long career overseas . Doesn’t take a genius to realize his game is too slow to transition to the NBA

I just laugh at people who think you should leave college early for the amount of money one makes as a first year player in Europe or G league.

Theres no rush that money isn't going to make any difference in the long run.
 
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Based on nothing but my own intuition, I think he comes back. I doubt he wants for much with his father here and I think he really enjoys the Iowa experience and college in general.
I wonder when he will make the announcement of his decision.

Exactly, theres allot of value in the experience.

Frank is smart enough to realize that.
 
Some differences. Kaminsky shot nearly 42% from 3-point range his final year. Averaged over 2.5 assists per game. Garza at 36% on 3's and just a bit over 1 assist per game. Kaminsky was also 7 feet tall and a better ball-handler.

I love Garza, but he would not be as good as Kaminsky in the NBA (my opinion). Shorter, poorer shooter, worse ball-handler. Kaminsky moves better. Kaminsky is a rotation player averaging nearly 10 points a game in his NBA career.

Anything could happen of course if Garza had some additional improvement. But you can't get taller and Garza has improved his ability to move a bunch the last 3 years, but still would have trouble defending NBA players. But kind of silly to pick apart a guy's game now. Doesn't lessen how great of a college player Garza was this year.

They're really not similar players other than size and skin color.

Kaminsky initiated the majority of his offense off the dribble. Garza is a back to the basket guy who can shoot from the outside.
 
I just laugh at people who think you should leave college early for the amount of money one makes as a first year player in Europe or G league.

Theres no rush that money isn't going to make any difference in the long run.

Agree with you RocknRoll, however that's exactly what seemed to be happening w an Iowa player, last year. I didn't understand it then, and like you, do not now.

If Luka returns, IOWA is a favorite to win the BIG10 and be a
contender for National Championship.

Go Hawks
 
Some differences. Kaminsky shot nearly 42% from 3-point range his final year. Averaged over 2.5 assists per game. Garza at 36% on 3's and just a bit over 1 assist per game. Kaminsky was also 7 feet tall and a better ball-handler.

I love Garza, but he would not be as good as Kaminsky in the NBA (my opinion). Shorter, poorer shooter, worse ball-handler. Kaminsky moves better. Kaminsky is a rotation player averaging nearly 10 points a game in his NBA career.

Anything could happen of course if Garza had some additional improvement. But you can't get taller and Garza has improved his ability to move a bunch the last 3 years, but still would have trouble defending NBA players. But kind of silly to pick apart a guy's game now. Doesn't lessen how great of a college player Garza was this year.
I'm not sure 1" of height makes much difference, especially when Garza has been a much better rebounder (9.8 as a jr v. FK's 8.2 as a sr, 6.9 v. 4.6 career). If you look at FK's shooting percentage on 3s as a junior, it's pretty close. Luka is the better post player right now, and if he can improve his accuracy from deep, he would be the better offensive player, even with Frank having better handles. Regarding defense, yes, Frank is better, although Luka is improving.
 
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I'm not sure 1" of height makes much difference, especially when Garza has been a much better rebounder (9.8 as a jr v. FK's 8.2 as a sr, 6.9 v. 4.6 career). If you look at FK's shooting percentage on 3s as a junior, it's pretty close. Luka is the better post player right now, and if he can improve his accuracy from deep, he would be the better offensive player, even with Frank having better handles. Regarding defense, yes, Frank is better, although Luka is improving.

They're not similar players so not a meaningful comparison either way.
 
Have you ever noticed how many tips Iowa gets from Luka jumping at center court at the beginning of each game? Therein lies the answer.
 
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