Is HROT now full of anti-vaxxers?
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So you have nothing…exactly what I thought.
Someone is clueless, and it certainly isn’t me.
The fine for defying that vaccine mandate was $5, which converts to about $163.50 in 2021 currency.
A $164 fine is hardly the same thing as ordering private businesses to fire all unvaccinated employees.
Lol - knew it. You had asked for precedents mandating the general public outside of government entities. Here's one. It's not the same as today, times have changed. It is an example which you asked for though. But I knew the goalposts would move even before I posted it. TJ being TJ. LOL.
Good Lord, Riley. It's like you don't even try to read my posts before jumping in to make yourself look like a dumbass. The goalposts are firmly planted right where they have been since the beginning of this thread.
"But government entities ordering private businesses to fire anyone who’s not vaccinated is not okay in my book."
-- TJ8869, Post #4
"What vaccines have been mandated as a condition of employment or patronage in private businesses?"
-- TJ8869, Post #6 (replying to Huey)
"The city of New York has ordered 184,000 private businesses to fire every unvaccinated employee in two weeks. Show me a precedent for that."
-- TJ8869, Post #11 (replying to JWolf74. It's also worth noting that this is the post you specifically quoted when you replied to me)
"I’m talking about the government ordering private businesses to fire employees and restrict service to only vaccinated people. Show me some examples of that pre-COVID."
--TJ8869, Post #14 (replying to Huey)
"The issue here is governments ordering private businesses to fire unvaccinated employees and restrict service to vaccinated customers only. When has that happened pre-COVID?"
-- TJ8869, Post #16 (replying to BABiscuit)
"One time, 120 years ago, the city of Boston issued fines to people who refused to get vaccinated against smallpox."
-- Riley, basically, Post #37
"Issuing fines is not the same thing as government ordering private businesses to fire all unvaccinated employees."
-- TJ
"YOU'RE MOVING THE GOALPOSTS! THAT'S JUST LIKE YOU!"
-- Riley, once again demonstrating an appalling lack of reading comprehension.
Why bother? Some on here just aren’t worth responding to.
Although I'm not the one dousing the coach with Gatorade before halftime.
Well, I'm the one who asked you to throw out a guess though, remember?
One interesting number (and I don't know what the percentage is now), but back in July 11% (almost 15 mil people) thought the first dose was such a good idea that they decided to for whatever reason miss their 2nd dose.
I've seen plenty of footage of people with devastating post-vaccine injury. More than 5....that would give anything to have not taken the vaccine(s).
Then of course there's this. You're a fool if you think all these people are still happy with their decision:
COVID Vaccine Data
openvaers.com
Here we have some of Pfizer's own data, hidden from the public up until now. In only the first few months, 42,086 case reports, nearly 160,000 events, 1223 reports of fatalities. Sure, maybe not all caused by the vaccine but we don't know that, and that's a sword that can cut both ways. Can you tell me these people in table 1 (page 7) were really happy with their decision?
That's short-term data of course. Stay tuned for the long-term.
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I would guess zero, but I don’t have anything to base it on other than the vaccinated aren’t dying of covid in hospitals in large numbers like the unvaccinated.
I haven’t seen any reports of anyone wishing they hadn’t been vaccinated prior to dying in a hospital. But I’ve seen way too many stories of anti-vaxers dying in hospital beds wishing they had been vaccinated. Not just the old antivaxers are dying. A 52 year old wrestling coach and former NCAA wrestling champion at Iowa died of COVID last week. I would be surprised if he and his family don’t wish they could have a do-over on seeing how he might of fared if vaccinated.
I’m going to go with science and math (90%+ of people dying of COVID have not been vaccinated) on this one.
Well, exactly. Pretty pointless to see everyone say, ‘I had no problem getting all these other required vaccines’.
Oh, you mean the ones we’ve become accustomed to over decades, and you received when you were a child, and had no choice in the matter?
I've seen some of those reports too, but I think the msm is a little slanted on their reporting.
See, that’s the problem anymore. What people “think” becomes their truth, vs the facts of what is actually taking place.
An example is the guy sitting next to you at the bar, smoking Marlboro reds, who couldn’t pass a HS biology class, debating the negative merits of the COVID-19 vaccines, because he thinks he knows more about the vaccines and science than doctors and scientists.
And then there are the doctors writing exemption notes for employees with no recognized clinical contraindication for the vaccine. Or objecting that they themselves should have to be vaccinated in order to have admissions privileges.
(yes, I've seen this... over and over again.... )
Extremely irresponsible. But there are doctors also prescribing obscene amounts of opioids to patients as well. So we will likely unfortunately always have ”a few” bad doctors, police officers, politicians, religious leaders, etc.
Well, when all you see in the msm is reports of unvaxxed with serious COVID who wished they'd been vaxxed, but know reports of serious injury and death after having just received the vaccine also exist and yet go unreported, what should that cause one to think?
LOL. The assumption made with the 11%, the 5 videos you have seen, and the unconfirmed death by jab add up to a number that is much less than the 100% claim made earlier. You’re the special type that believes “all VAERS is real!”…so you making these leaps/assumptions, and not being able to recognize them for what they are, makes complete sense. Oh, but of course, another “just wait” claim. Don’t know if I will be able to sleep with all the “gene therapy” nightmares I have been promised.Although I'm not the one dousing the coach with Gatorade before halftime.
Well, I'm the one who asked you to throw out a guess though, remember?
One interesting number (and I don't know what the percentage is now), but back in July 11% (almost 15 mil people) thought the first dose was such a good idea that they decided to for whatever reason miss their 2nd dose.
I've seen plenty of footage of people with devastating post-vaccine injury. More than 5....that would give anything to have not taken the vaccine(s).
Then of course there's this. You're a fool if you think all these people are still happy with their decision:
COVID Vaccine Data
Here we have some of Pfizer's own data, hidden from the public up until now. In only the first few months, 42,086 case reports, nearly 160,000 events, 1223 reports of fatalities. Sure, maybe not all caused by the vaccine but we don't know that, and that's a sword that can cut both ways. Can you tell me these people in table 1 (page 7) were really happy with their decision?
That's short-term data of course. Stay tuned for the long-term.
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This is humorous…cause you are doing the reverse and are okay with it. There is a word for that…
More than 5, and this is just a quick search:
The Faces Of The Vaccine Injured | Real, Not Rare
Real lives, real experiences of the covid-vaccine injured. Remember, these people all took the vaccine to help stop this pandemic! Now they are being marginalized, abandoned and ignored. Learn, Listen, Support, Believe, Help!
www.realnotrare.com
Dramatic increase in pro sports adverse events since the vaccines rolled out
Nobody can explain that. Some poo-poo these events saying that they happen all the time. True, they do. But not at this rate. Something happened in 2021 that changed things by a lot. Can you guess?
stevekirsch.substack.com
WATCH: Vaccine injury stories pour in after Israeli mom launches project to expose untold suffering - LifeSite
A courageous woman is shedding light on the extensive damage caused by the Pfizer jab and encourages others to do the same.
www.lifesitenews.com
Real Testimonials
ACTUAL VACCINE ADVERSE REACTION STORIES: Click on the white bars below to read over 500 real testimonies of adverse reactions to the COVID-19 vaccine.
www.c19vaxreactions.com
Please Hear Us, Please See Us, Please Believe Us - No More Silence - Telling Our Stories
0 SHARES Follow us Telegram share Worldwide Covid-19 Vaccination Victims We want to be Heard, Seen & BelievedPlease Hear us, Please See us, Please Believe us Produced by www.c19vaxreactions.comWorking with www.nomoresilence.world “We Can See” Soundtrack by Artist Joseph Arthur Join Us On Telegram
nomoresilence.world
The People's Testament
Listening is an act of love and no one knows this better than the Children's Health Defense Team. Join Stephanie Loccricchio in getting to the heart of the m...
live.childrenshealthdefense.org
And it looks like FB took down the injury member groups for the most part. I think earlier this year I remember visiting on site that had over 150,000 members. Gone.
So I suppose the question is, when can we get real and stop ignoring the injuries?
Keep them coming. How many are vaccinated now? You have a lot of ground to make up. I am sure all these stories are confirmed to be directly linked and not just supposition.More than 5, and this is just a quick search:
The Faces Of The Vaccine Injured | Real, Not Rare
Real lives, real experiences of the covid-vaccine injured. Remember, these people all took the vaccine to help stop this pandemic! Now they are being marginalized, abandoned and ignored. Learn, Listen, Support, Believe, Help!
Dramatic increase in pro sports adverse events since the vaccines rolled out
Nobody can explain that. Some poo-poo these events saying that they happen all the time. True, they do. But not at this rate. Something happened in 2021 that changed things by a lot. Can you guess?
WATCH: Vaccine injury stories pour in after Israeli mom launches project to expose untold suffering - LifeSite
A courageous woman is shedding light on the extensive damage caused by the Pfizer jab and encourages others to do the same.
Real Testimonials
ACTUAL VACCINE ADVERSE REACTION STORIES: Click on the white bars below to read over 500 real testimonies of adverse reactions to the COVID-19 vaccine.www.c19vaxreactions.com
Please Hear Us, Please See Us, Please Believe Us - No More Silence - Telling Our Stories
0 SHARES Follow us Telegram share Worldwide Covid-19 Vaccination Victims We want to be Heard, Seen & BelievedPlease Hear us, Please See us, Please Believe us Produced by www.c19vaxreactions.comWorking with www.nomoresilence.world “We Can See” Soundtrack by Artist Joseph Arthur Join Us On Telegram
The People's Testament
Listening is an act of love and no one knows this better than the Children's Health Defense Team. Join Stephanie Loccricchio in getting to the heart of the m...
And it looks like FB took down the injury member groups for the most part. I think earlier this year I remember visiting on site that had over 150,000 members. Gone.
So I suppose the question is, when can we get real and stop ignoring the injuries?
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It’s absolutely hilarious. Provide credentials, sample size, and methodology please. You could be qualified to make such “claims,” but “I doubt it.”
All are evidence. That is undeniable. The only report looking at VAERS data noted that it was vastly under reported, pre-covid.
"all VAERS is real". Pretty sure I've never said that.
You're on a hard-line mission to completely ignore any possibility of injury. I just don't get it.
I’m not at all. Thats a poorly drawn conclusion…which is kinda your thing.
I'm convined I've seen serious vaccine injury in my family. Believe me, if you've lived it, it's nothing to laugh at.
I’m not laughing at vaccine injury. You really are terrible at this. Feel free to reread the quote I laughed at, and the follow up. There is also no doubt you are convinced.
Not wasting my time on a re-read and follow up on any part of this conversation, but thanks for the offer.
So again, "So I suppose the question is, when can we get real and stop ignoring the injuries?"
You won’t take a read back when called out, but want me to circle back to this? What a joke. It seemed rhetorical and a gross mischaracterization of my point…but anyways…Answer: right now.
Now try this:
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So I suppose you think it's so funny because you think I'm not qualified to make such remarks, despite being the parent or closely related to these kids. I acknowledged that it may be nothing. I think you should've been given what you're looking for with that acknowledgement. I'm not convinced I'm not out of my bounds believing what I believe, and I'm not convinced you're qualified to speak against it, especially since you have almost zero further information. But thanks for your unqualified unprofessional meaningless HROT opinion.
Lol. Hope you log these (runaway) miles into your fitness app. Back to your safe space.
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