I would say laughable cause BF still has a job as OC.
Is Iowa viewed more as a FB or BB school?
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Iowa hasn’t been relevant on a national stage since Lute and he left in part because BB was second fiddle to FB, to go to Arizona where he could transform the U of A into a basketball school. Only Davis’s 86-87 had a legitimate shot to make the Final Four. FB consistently sells out while BB rarely does.
Kentucky and Indiana are two others think of.
Decent football programs but there's no doubt basketball is far bigger to their fan bases.
Together those 5 are probably the only true basketball schools that play football in a major conference.
Maybe.
Do people still care about ucla out there?
Its such a weird place I really have no idea.
I just think when people hear UCLA they think basketball,,,,of course maybe I am just old.
Yeah, obviously they were once THE basketball school but I really don't know much about them now in terms of fan interest in basketball vs football.
I imagine you could still put them in the basketball school category.
They did have a final 4 team recently.
This. I live on the west coast and I'm not a Hawk fan. When I tell people I'm from Iowa, more people inquire about Iowa's wrestling team than anything else. At least as it relates to sports. Other than that folks think it's where potatoes are from.
You're wrong about football. We have a much higher football profile than most would think.
Mostly those along the western edge of the Mississippi but I suppose the eastern shore of the Missouri as well.
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It depends on what you mean. When I hear of a "football school", usually the football accomplishments dwarf any other sports accomplishments at that school. That's not really the case here, although football certainly has been far more successful than basketball. Nationally, Iowa is regarded as a great win if you beat them, not a bad loss if you lose to them, but they will never be a serious threat to win a national championship (I disagree with that, btw. I think we are a lot closer than people think to competing there. Their defense was a national championship quality defense last year). But, I never hear anybody refer to Iowa as a football school and honestly, I'm glad about that.
Arizona has been a BB school ever since Lute built the program up when he arrived in 1983. From 85 to 09 they reached the NCAA, only Carolina had more consecutive years. Football has had a few good years, but nothing to write home about. The fan base is much more passionate and supportive of hoops than football.
Football. And it's really not close. Iowa has made it to the Big Ten Championship game a couple of times, the Rose Bowl, and other decent bowl games, and has finished in the top 15 at the end of the year several times.
All of those things give you national attention and people remember that even if only vaguely.
Basketball hasn't had much success in March for many years and has been in and out of the top 25 very rarely in the top 15.
All of those things give you national attention and people remember that even if only vaguely.
Basketball hasn't had much success in March for many years and has been in and out of the top 25 very rarely in the top 15.
Well for many casual sports fans Iowa is a wrestling school, then a football school, then a Bball school. I agree that the Bball team was much more on top during the 1960's then by 1975-82 or so Lute had Bball on the rise. But really once Fry turned it around in 1981, sportswise, Iowa has been a football school. Very few top 10s in Bball since Lute left.
UCLA was but they are not a year to year standard top 15 team. Wooden definitely tops but the next coaches couldnt keep it going.
I would add Illinois & Iowa St (& maybe Syracuse too) as the "next tier" down (B-list) basketball schools. They don't have the same high level success as the blue bloods of UNC, Duke, Kentucky, etc...but my perception of them is their fans are way more into the their basketball teams than the their football teams (even though they want to be good at football...they are still more successful in basketball)
Walk into an Iowa City bar during an Iowa basketball game and it won't be on. You'll ask, can you put the Iowa basketball game on? They'll say - Oh, what channel? Happened to me. True story.
I realize that, but I still view them as a basketball school. The question I was responding to is: are there colleges out there that are still perceived as a basketball school. Just my opinion but I bet there are a lot of basketball fans out there that think basketball (not football) when they hear the name UCLA.
Just as I am sure there are a ton of people who automatically think Football when they hear the name Nebraska.
How we're viewed nationally? Gotta say football school if it's one or the other. Fairly solid in both, though. Many schools that are dominant in hoops stink in football, or vice versa. Iowa is pretty balanced.
The men's basketball team hasn't won a conference title since '79. Hasn't been to a Final Four since '80. Hasn't been to even a Sweet 16 since '99. Only past the 2nd round ONE time since '88. Not sure how much national reputation they really have. Usually competitive, sure, but they never really do anything that people outside of the state will notice much.
The Brian Ferentz shenanigans and the horrible offense are not helping our image in football, but I'd say the football team has accomplished more in recent memory. A couple of conference titles in 2002/04. Won the 2009 (January 2010) Orange Bowl. Got to a Rose Bowl in '15. A lot of KF's accolades are starting to fade into the rear view mirror a bit, though.
The men's basketball team hasn't won a conference title since '79. Hasn't been to a Final Four since '80. Hasn't been to even a Sweet 16 since '99. Only past the 2nd round ONE time since '88. Not sure how much national reputation they really have. Usually competitive, sure, but they never really do anything that people outside of the state will notice much.
The Brian Ferentz shenanigans and the horrible offense are not helping our image in football, but I'd say the football team has accomplished more in recent memory. A couple of conference titles in 2002/04. Won the 2009 (January 2010) Orange Bowl. Got to a Rose Bowl in '15. A lot of KF's accolades are starting to fade into the rear view mirror a bit, though.
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JMO as an outsider, but easily still a football school if I had to pick ... probably "neither/both" would be better. People usually judge this by fan support at least as much as how good you currently are, so as long as Kinnick is guaranteed to be full no matter what and Carver sellouts are comparatively rare, I think the public perception will remain that it's a football school. However, Iowa has not been a "one-sport school" (keeping in mind casual fans only really look at football + basketball) since very early in Fran's tenure.
smh….
Since 1999, Iowa has been in ZERO sweet 16s, UCLA has been to 11.
Since 1979 Iowa has won ZERO regular season conference championships, UCLA has won 11.
Since 1980 Iowa has been to ZERO Final Fours, UCLA has been to 6.
UCLA is indisputably a college basketball blue blood.
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Didn’t read through the entire thread, so SIAP, but I’d say taking one look at their respective venues and game day atmospheres should answer the question pretty easily.
Yep, no doubt about it, but rasslin don’t pay the bills or get your schools name on the marquee out front.
Nationally Football is 1-4, MBB is 5 and then everything else is really only recognized by the fans of whichever conference the school competes in.
I can't hold that against kids who only associate Iowa as a party school and treat athletics as a social event..........
Iowa sure used to be a party school, at circa 77-82.
Oh we've held the #1 spot in the nation multiple times since then.....
But, why did Iowa City party hardest from 75-82? Vietnam was over. The draft was over, and my class (77) was in the luckiest group that didn't even have to register (although personally I tried to go ROTC but I was 4F). Drinking age was 18, then raised to 19 (grandfathered into 18 by 2 weeks). You not only could drink in the dorms, they sold beer in the little market in Burge. No one got in trouble for smoking a little weed at a football game or concert and certainly not in the dorms. Then came Just Say No and MADD. Then the police for drunken minor bar scrapes, and mass public intox and the 21 drinking age, and the underage possession tickets, and the searches they triggered. College is always fun, unless you're in Provo, but it was the era of Animal House.
Just a perfect time to be young but so very long ago now. If I could drink, I'd do a flaming shot of Cuervo in honor of the memory of the Fieldhouse and Maxwells, quarter draws and dollar pints.
Just a perfect time to be young but so very long ago now. If I could drink, I'd do a flaming shot of Cuervo in honor of the memory of the Fieldhouse and Maxwells, quarter draws and dollar pints.
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