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Is the FOX Deal A Colossal Failure For Big Ten? Did you know Delany got $20M BONUS in off season?

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This is a little dated (Sep 25, 2017) but Iowa Basketball retweeted it recently. As you will see, Delany received a $20M bonus in the offseason!! Are you kidding me? There are some interesting things brought up, including this:

And while ESPN’s public relations group will disagree, one has to wonder if the effects of the Big Ten’s jump to FOX are already being felt. Last weekend, Penn State’s trip to Iowa seemed like an easy pick for College Gameday, but the network instead opted to travel to New York City. Though this could be a stretch, one does wonder if Gameday would have went to Iowa City if the Big Ten had remained with ESPN. And considering the value of Gameday, that would be a big hit to Iowa and its national perception.

FOX seems to be spending a lot of time promoting its games on networks nobody watches or screwing up its promotions altogether. That’s a pretty substantial downgrade from the promotional machine that has College Gameday, especially when you add in the fact that the games, generally, aren’t broadcast as well.

For more proof, just look back at the matchup between Michigan and Purdue. Despite being FOX network’s first league Big Ten game of the new deal, FOX decided to bump it to Fox Business channel for a baseball game. FOX also bumped Maryland’s matchup with UCF for a NASCAR race. I don’t have anything against baseball or NASCAR and understand that games can go longer than planned, but shouldn’t FOX wants to make a statement about its coverage for its first few Big Ten games?

This leaves us with a pretty ugly picture about the Big Ten’s deal with FOX.

Through the first month of the deal, fans have already dealt with misguided promotions, bad camera angles, decreased production value, and multiple games on the FOX Business channel. Again, maybe this improves, but it’s been a rough go for what is easily one of the two biggest college conferences in the nation.

But what about the money?

The money’s got to be good, right?

As was detailed above, every Big Ten school is going to make a massive amount of money from this deal. Even the skeptics can’t deny this fact. For many, this is why the deal was signed. Most probably would prefer the games on ESPN or elsewhere, but most figured this was a sacrifice to make more money.

If you want an example of what that money has done so far, just think about this. Jim Delany received a $20 million dollar (!!!) bonus this offseason, despite the fact that Purdue’s football stadium still has visiting locker rooms without air conditioning.

That’s absolutely mind blowing. Delany is living like Scrooge McDuck while the student athletes (that make the Big Ten and Delany their money) are enduring 100 degree temperatures in a dated locker room. Under the current model, student athletes are never going to get compensated the same way as top-level administrators. But just seems inherently wrong.

College Tuition Compare estimated the average Big Ten tuition cost at $33,177 a year for out-of-state students in 2015-’16. I don’t pretend to know the exact amount a football scholarship costs for Big Ten programs, but based upon that number, Delany’s bonus this season could have paid for roughly 600 scholarships.

Hell, local YMCAs manage to have air conditioned locker rooms. What’s the point of signing a FOX deal that awards the Big Ten hundreds of millions of dollars if it can’t even give the student athletes the same facilities as a YMCA?

The answer?

To make sure Delany and other administrators pad their pocketbooks.

Perhaps things will change in the coming months and years with the Big Ten’s new FOX deal, but, so far, this looks like a deal that only serves the purpose of benefiting Delany and his fellow administrators. Fans have been subjected to an inferior product and student athletes are made to play in absurd conditions while Delany and his partners make off like bandits.

As long as college sports remain under the current system, there will always be inequity between the administrators and athletes, but it’s time the Big Ten front office stops throwing athletes and fans under the bus to benefit itself.


LINK: https://www.btpowerhouse.com/2017/9...t=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
 
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The Penn State-Iowa game was on ABC (ESPN). Take a look at where Gameday had been this year, its a bunch of Big Ten games. Also, the PSU-OSU game was on FOX last week and Gameday went there.

I see tweets of the top rated games of the year so far and its almost all B1G games. The conference made the right decision to take the money while rights fees at are their peak.
 
I don't care what money anybody makes. If somebody is willing to pay them a large sum, they probably earn it. Kirk makes a lot of money because he represents the University well, is a well respected, successful coach and he makes the University and the community a TON of money. Delany has made insane money for the conference so he makes insane money.
 
The writer of that poorly written piece seemed to think the un-air conditioned visitors locker room at Purdue was some burning issue that would ignite the college football world. Jim Harbaugh, maybe. But nobody else give a damn.

Oh, and about Delany's bonus? When his deals are stuffing BIG10 athletics with cold hard cash nobody is going to bitch except bitches.
 
That you Jim?

Sorry but nobody deserves a 20 million dollar bonus

This comes from a May 2017 USA Today article (I can't find 2016 or 2017 income amounts):

Delany was credited with nearly $2.4 million in total compensation during the 2015 calendar year, according to the new tax return. (Under IRS rules, a non-profit organization must report its revenue and expense data based on its fiscal year, but it must report compensation data based on the calendar year completed during its fiscal year.) He received just over $2 million in base compensation and just under $275,000 in deferred compensation.

His overall total increased by about $100,000 from 2014.

In comparison to the commissioners of other Power Five conferences, Delany’s recent pay has been on the lower end.

► Former SEC commissioner Mike Slive, who concluded a 13-year run in the job in the middle of 2015, was paid more than $4.3 million in total compensation during the 2015 calendar year, the conference’s most recent tax return showed. SEC spokesman Herb Vincent said in February the total included Silve's salary as commissioner through July 31; what Vincent termed "one-time departure compensation," plus the 2015 portion of consulting pay that the return said was $250,000 over the conference's fiscal year, which ended Aug. 31, 2016. Vincent declined to provide the amount of the one-time payment, which was not detailed in the most recent return.

► Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby was reported with nearly $2.7 million in total compensation for the 2015 calendar year.

► Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott’s total compensation was greater than $3 million in each year from 2011 through 2014, when he was reported with $4.05 million.

From 2010 through 2014, Scott’s compensation annually included a bonus that ranged from $626,000 to $1.376 million; his bonuses for those five years totaled $5.05 million.

Scott also has had the continuing benefit of a nearly $1.9 million loan from the conference.

► ACC commissioner John Swofford was paid just under $2.7 million in 2014, almost all in base compensation.


Link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...ig-ten-conference-20-million-bonus/101591564/
 
Yeah Jim Delany controls what happens in the Purdue visitors locker room?Poorly thought out from the get go he(Delany) has done the best job of any commissioner in college football.Put that in your pipe and smoke it.As far as ESPN goes they have what my grandmother died of "lack of circulation".
 
The Penn State-Iowa game was on ABC (ESPN). Take a look at where Gameday had been this year, its a bunch of Big Ten games. Also, the PSU-OSU game was on FOX last week and Gameday went there.

I see tweets of the top rated games of the year so far and its almost all B1G games. The conference made the right decision to take the money while rights fees at are their peak.

Agreed. Was this story written by an ESPN PR firm. Yes, it was annoying having games on FS1 or Fox get bumped by playoff baseball. Big deal. Iowa hoops games on ESPN regularly you have to watch the beginning on the Watch ESPN app due to the previous game going long. Delaney has done his job very well so far. ensuring the financial viability of all teams in the league and keeping the OSU, Michigan and Penn State programs in line with what's best for the league. That is a tough balance to achieve.
 
Whoever wrote that article needs some serious editor help.

And if his opinion is that Fox football broadcasts are inferior to ESPN’s, then his opinion probably doesn’t mean much about anything.
 
LOL ....ESPN know matter how good they are is hemorrhaging subscribers. OP you better wake up because ESPN is in real danger of going defunct in the next 5 years. Clay Travis quoted figures that they are losing 15k from their subscriber base everyday from cord cutters. There are rumors or more layoffs coming and that they will not be able to renew Monday night football the next time around. They create nothing in terms of their own content except 30-4-30's. What are they going to show in the future and who is going to pay for it? That's what you are opining about?

What I'd be worried about is anyone who has a mega long term deal with ESPN actually getting paid down the road. This includes the B1G but our wagon is not hitched as tightly to them anymore.
 
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Today, the Fighting Illini will be in the visiting locker
room at Purdue. Temperature at kickoff is expected
to be in the high 40's or low 50's. No air conditioning
will be a non-factor for this trophy game.
 
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As if everyone is paid what they're worth. I wish....:rolleyes:
 
guys, i am not taking sides; i do think he brings up some good points, even if you don't like some of his other points

I do find it interesting that nobody seemed to know or bring up Delany's $20M bonus; wasn't he simply doing his job? and he deserves $20M ON TOP of the millions he is already making? Obviously, somebody (the University Presidents?) approved the bonus, so nothing we can do but discuss/agree/disagree with it.....
 
guys, i am not taking sides; i do think he brings up some good points, even if you don't like some of his other points

I do find it interesting that nobody seemed to know or bring up Delany's $20M bonus; wasn't he simply doing his job? and he deserves $20M ON TOP of the millions he is already making? Obviously, somebody (the University Presidents?) approved the bonus, so nothing we can do but discuss/agree/disagree with it.....

It's just not newsworthy that someone at or near the top of the food chain in life makes some serious coin even though it's far more than they are worth. That's life. Is that anything new when you strip away who it is and what they do?
 
BT Powerhouse I believe is the SB Nation B10 basketball conference blog site. The article reads like an "amateur" wrote it because it probably was written by an amateur.

Going to Fox...meh, I've always said, if the announcers piss you off, you're paying attention to the wrong things, although I admit to not being the biggest Gus Johnson fan there ever was. I'd also have to think considering her rep less Beth Mowins is probably a win for a lot of people.

Are they (Fox) having some growing pains as far as production - and are games even more spread out with start times? Sure. But it also will probably mean more games on broadcast TV too, which helps out those that completely cut the chord and don't subscribe to anything online - and if it means more money for the little guys in the conference to try to keep up with the revenue juggernauts a school like Iowa will always be fighting, I'm all for it.

As for Delany...hate him in a "get off my lawn" way if you want, but what has Iowa gone from? Something like low teens $M to up around $50M+?

Yeah, he's overpaid...
 
You know it is so F***ing stupid I want to address several points.

1.
And while ESPN’s public relations group will disagree, one has to wonder if the effects of the Big Ten’s jump to FOX are already being felt. Last weekend, Penn State’s trip to Iowa seemed like an easy pick for College Gameday, but the network instead opted to travel to New York City. Though this could be a stretch, one does wonder if Gameday would have went to Iowa City if the Big Ten had remained with ESPN. And considering the value of Gameday, that would be a big hit to Iowa and its national perception.

You mean like how they went to Columbus last week? Let's admit it outside of Iowa nobody cared about Iowa. Especially an unranked Iowa.

2.
FOX seems to be spedning a lot of time promoting its games on networks nobody watches or screwing up its promotions altogether. That’s a pretty substantial downgrade from the promotional machine that has College Gameday, especially when you add in the fact that the games, generally, aren’t broadcast as well.

Opinion not back up by anything, especially the second half statement.


3.For more proof, just look back at the matchup between Michigan and Purdue. Despite being FOX network’s first league Big Ten game of the new deal, FOX decided to bump it to Fox Business channel for a baseball game. FOX also bumped Maryland’s matchup with UCF for a NASCAR race. I don’t have anything against baseball or NASCAR and understand that games can go longer than planned, but shouldn’t FOX wants to make a statement about its coverage for its first few Big Ten games?

That's called the Heidi Rule. Has nothing to do with Fox, the big Ten or what it wants to show. Thank the Raiders in the 70s. A little research would explain this so you don't look like you have no idea what you are talking about.


4.As was detailed above, every Big Ten school is going to make a massive amount of money from this deal. Even the skeptics can’t deny this fact. For many, this is why the deal was signed. Most probably would prefer the games on ESPN or elsewhere, but most figured this was a sacrifice to make more money.

If you want an example of what that money has done so far, just think about this. Jim Delany received a $20 million dollar (!!!) bonus this offseason, despite the fact that Purdue’s football stadium still has visiting locker rooms without air conditioning.


Yes. The Big 10 office gets a cut of TV and bowl money. Seems to make sense. Have to pay people to run the Big 10. And the purdue issue seems like one to take up with Purdue. They've been Big 10 members for a lot of years and haven't hurt for money. And thier vistor locker room wasn't an issue till Whiny ass Harbaugh brought it up.
 
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5. That’s absolutely mind blowing. Delany is living like Scrooge McDuck while the student athletes (that make the Big Ten and Delany their money) are enduring 100 degree temperatures in a dated locker room. Under the current model, student athletes are never going to get compensated the same way as top-level administrators. But just seems inherently wrong.

That's how the world works. The CEOs make more than the labor. It's basically the backbone of our entire economic system. And student athletes get a free education. While its not $20 million, they are compensated. Few NFL players make $20 million a year.

6.Hell, local YMCAs manage to have air conditioned locker rooms. What’s the point of signing a FOX deal that awards the Big Ten hundreds of millions of dollars if it can’t even give the student athletes the same facilities as a YMCA?

Get off Purdue's F***ing locker rooms. If you have that big of a problem with it write about Purdue.


7.To make sure Delany and other administrators pad their pocketbooks


Shhh. Nobody tell the author that Big ten schools make about $50 million now in TV money, up from 25 million. It's all going to Delany.
 
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guys, i am not taking sides; i do think he brings up some good points, even if you don't like some of his other points

Not really.

Every one is wrong, easily debunked or show about a third grade understanding of the world.
 
From franisdaman post, "NewThis is a little dated (Sep 25, 2017) but Iowa Basketball retweeted it recently".

Please clarify; are you saying the Univ of Iowa basketball team, program, and/or associate sent a tweet complaining about the B1G TV contract and Delaney's bonus?
 
good lord people, don't shoot the messenger; either agree with his points or don't.....i just find his opinions interesting....and again, not sure if anyone knew about Jims $20M bonus until now.....it is what it is, deserved or not....
 
Today, the Fighting Illini will be in the visiting locker
room at Purdue. Temperature at kickoff is expected
to be in the high 40's or low 50's. No air conditioning
will be a non-factor for this trophy game.
Yes, but poor Michigan.....:rolleyes:
 
good lord people, don't shoot the messenger; either agree with his points or don't.....i just find his opinions interesting....and again, not sure if anyone knew about Jims $20M bonus until now.....it is what it is, deserved or not....

OP you are not the messenger you think you are when you provide an opinion on it too. Even when it's a passive / aggressive opinion it's an opinion which means you are choosing a side. That's what a messsge board is for but you can't get upset when others disagree or see things differently.

This is your opening statement...

This is a little dated (Sep 25, 2017) but Iowa Basketball retweeted it recently. As you will see, Delany received a $20M bonus in the offseason!! Are you kidding me? There are some interesting things brought up,
 
OP you are not the messenger you think you are when you provide an opinion on it too. Even when it's a passive / aggressive opinion it's an opinion which means you are choosing a side. That's what a messsge board is for but you can't get upset when others disagree or see things differently.

This is your opening statement...

This is a little dated (Sep 25, 2017) but Iowa Basketball retweeted it recently. As you will see, Delany received a $20M bonus in the offseason!! Are you kidding me? There are some interesting things brought up,

Well, I did think that was a large sum of cash; don't you?

Isn't it part of his job to negotiate contracts?

His bonus is over 7x his salary? Anybody on here get a bonus that large?

Again, I don't think people knew about this bonus; now you do.

Thanks everyone and have a wonderful day!
 
Well, I did think that was a large sum of cash; don't you?

Isn't it part of his job to negotiate contracts?

His bonus is over 7x his salary? Anybody on here get a bonus that large?

No, but I also didn't just negotiate a billion dollar TV deal. Did you?
 
and for the record, i asked if you think the FOX deal is a colossal failure; personally, i don't think so; but, I do agree that FOX is not ESPN and FOX does not do as good a job as ESPN; hopefully that changes.
 
It's capitalism. If he got paid 20 million, that's what he's worth.

I don't think NCAA is an example of capitalism. They are a regulating body that has evolved into a money making business for insiders/bureaucrats/coaches using money generated by football/basketball. You get into club by knowing someone or being former athlete that knows someone.

If Capitalism were involved, a guy like Barta would have suffered some consequences for his idiotic handling of the two Lesbian coaches. KF would not be hiring his own son at $650K/year.
 
and for the record, i asked if you think the FOX deal is a colossal failure; personally, i don't think so; but, I do agree that FOX is not ESPN and FOX does not do as good a job as ESPN; hopefully that changes.

If ESPN is doing such a great job how are they going down the tubes? They have made monumental mistakes including ever allowing the B1G to go off and create their own platform. They lost an entire section of the country's interest who follow the sport by doing this. That's just one of many.

ESPN is dead man walking. FOX is short-term too possibly as the whole thing is up for renegotiation in the another 5-6 years. The landscape and platforms will be different by then. ESPN may not be a heavy player at all by then due to financial issues. With this latest deal... Delaney also positioned us to be the first in that pecking order. It might turn out to be brilliant to get multiple streaming entities to bid against one another and/or the old platforms. Time will tell.

Go on though with your tunnel vision opinions you publish as 'the messenger'.
 
If ESPN is doing such a great job how are they going down the tubes? They have made monumental mistakes including ever allowing the B1G to go off and create their own platform. They lost an entire section of the country's interest who follow the sport by doing this. That's just one of many.

ESPN is dead man walking. FOX is short-term too possibly as the whole thing is up for renegotiation in the another 5-6 years. The landscape and platforms will be different by then. ESPN may not be a heavy player at all by then due to financial issues. With this latest deal... Delaney also positioned us to be the first in that pecking order. It might turn out to be brilliant to get multiple streaming entities to bid against one another and/or the old platforms. Time will tell.

Go on though with your tunnel vision opinions you publish as 'the messenger'.

Life is too short to be such a jerk so why are you such a jerk? I won't let anonymous people like you bother me. But hey, have a great day, nonetheless.
 
I don't think NCAA is an example of capitalism. They are a regulating body that has evolved into a money making business for insiders/bureaucrats/coaches using money generated by football/basketball. You get into club by knowing someone or being former athlete that knows someone.

If Capitalism were involved, a guy like Barta would have suffered some consequences for his idiotic handling of the two Lesbian coaches. KF would not be hiring his own son at $650K/year.
"money making business for insiders/bureaucrats" is pretty much what capitalism is.
 
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