New Department of Defense Nominees opinion.
Is unconscious sex without consent rape?
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New Department of Defense Nominees opinion.
Well done, Trump voters. Well done.
New Department of Defense Nominees opinion.
Brock Turner, here, is going to be in charge of the military.
hawkeyetraveler
HB Heisman
Uh yeah. It doesn’t matter if it was a drunk girl coming on to you at the bar, a perfect stranger or your wife.
If they did not willingly consent then don’t do it…full stop.
Any guy that doesn’t understand that is SOTE.
If they did not willingly consent then don’t do it…full stop.
Any guy that doesn’t understand that is SOTE.
I figure if you ever find yourself having to provide an explanation or justification for having sex with someone, and why it was technically not rape, it's pretty likely that you raped someone.
He was correct on Minnesota law.
It’s still rape, though. Even if it isn’t illegal. Marital rape wasn’t illegal either.
It’s still rape, though. Even if it isn’t illegal. Marital rape wasn’t illegal either.
hawkeyetraveler
HB Heisman
One way to help the Neanderthals that don’t understand this:
If the tables were turned and the woman was pegging you would you be ok with it or do you think you should have to give consent?
That is rape.
Side question, what if she agrees to have sex but passes out minutes before the sexy time is set to begin?
She still consented but is passed out.
I honestly don’t know how anyone would think this was ok but, would it be considered rape beings she consented before passing out?
Side question, what if she agrees to have sex but passes out minutes before the sexy time is set to begin?
She still consented but is passed out.
I honestly don’t know how anyone would think this was ok but, would it be considered rape beings she consented before passing out?
I think many are missing the point, here. He was stating that according to state law, the scenario is not rape. So these women were all incorrect on the law.
The issue is that rather than use this story to point out how poorly written the law is, he used it to laugh at the women who ignored the law and claimed it was rape. He found this "bemusing." Which is a pretty vile attitude.
The issue is that rather than use this story to point out how poorly written the law is, he used it to laugh at the women who ignored the law and claimed it was rape. He found this "bemusing." Which is a pretty vile attitude.
Sodomy... nice....
Yes, this describes rape to me. It appears the conversation was regarding the way the law was written.
She has to be able to withdraw consent as well. Consent must be present through the whole act.
If she has full capacity and changes her mind mid-act, you still have to stop.
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It’s Rape. However what is the context here? Is he stating what the law is in his home state? Or is this an opinion that he agrees with?
He was in New Jersey talking about Minnesota law. The law itself is immaterial. Rape is having sex with someone without their consent.
You know who leans into the law and says what they’re doing isn’t rape? The Taliban, ISIS, and the guys having sex with 9 year-olds in Iraq.
I can't imagine his stance on date rape can be much different.
100% rape. But I think the op was talking about law. What state was he talking about? Is it rape by law in that state?
WTF is up with all these pervs being nominated
Agree but...sniff sniff. Double standards. Where there is sniffing in public there is more. Sniff
Solid guy. It's almost become a cabinet job requirement under the incoming administration that your sexual assault history has to meet or exceed that of the boss.
Military has had issues with sexual assault/rape. It’s zero tolerance now correct. Not a good look for the DOD head to have this history of pointing out technicalities and paying off sexual assault claims.
Kinda wonder why he was bemused about the point of the orientation.
New Department of Defense Nominees opinion.
Its the nature of the job. Like pastors, those who seek those jobs are naturally abusers. R or D.
Millions of Americans voted for a sexual predator to be president.
The answer is: Would a reasonable person believe she was of sound mind when she consented?
He’s saying the panel made it sound absolute. When he’s pointing out an exception. Seems to be confused about the point of the orientation as well. The point was to tell folks there is no shade of gray. He obviously lacks some social skills or unable to read the room.
This is what the country voted for, so shall it be!
New Department of Defense Nominees opinion.
