? for clone fans: are you worried that campbell will get offers from better progams after they go to bowl ? I would bet 50$ he wont be around for year 4
ISU 24-0 over Kansas at the half
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Maybe, but if he does get better offers that means we have a great 3 years coming. I'm guessing your more likely to be looking for a coach in 4 years than we are.
There was maybe 35,000 in attendance. I know they reported 55,000 or something like that, so maybe Jamie took all the unused ones and had the boys and girls scanning those to report as actually being there.
Are you delusional? Was in attendance for Illinois game and there was not a bunch of empty seats. And yeah it was a rainy start.
Walk on Qb it is! So next year starting over. That will be the excuse when Iowa beats them in Kinnick. New QB....wait til next year.
I've never understood the "he won't stick around" slam coming from fan bases toward a new coach who has success. We Iowa fans heard it when KF was going through the 2002-04 heyday. If KF had left Iowa after 2004, it would have stunk but it wouldn't have meant doom for the Iowa program. Would Campbell leave? Sure, if the opening was at Ohio State, or maybe Tennessee. But he's not leaving Iowa State for Illinois or Vanderbilt or Washington State. Even if he did leave, it would only be due to having the ISU program in a much better place than when he took over.
I was there; it was pouring rain and tons of people left the stadium when they announced the delay. This week at Tech will decide how real they are this year.
Sound Off showed a picture of hundreds of people watching from the inside of the end zone building. With it raining most of the day some people possibly figured the game would be cancelled. Just remember that the next Hawkeye game with lots of empty seats regardless if it's raining or to cold.
Would you be able to send us a list of coaches that have been successful at either school that stayed?
as I told others on the main rivals board why would he leave.
HC of a P5 team in the B12
has a chance of keeping ISU in the top 3 of the B12.
having a chance at the CFP being in a P5 Conference
ISU just increased the seating to 60,000
other than haters of ISU that just hate the idea of ISU getting better I see no reason for him to leave.
Campbell was 3-9 in his first season and is guaranteed no better than 4-8 this season. It might be just a wee bit early for this discussion.
For those thinking Campbell won't leave please pull the head out. He is coaching a historically awful team in a small state with a more prominent program 2 hours away. He has no ties to the state or the program unlike Mac and Rhodes. He is young and appears to be not only a good coach but most importantly a good recruiter. Jesus Chizik left after 5 wins in 2 years for Auburn. That win against OU did nothing but seal he is gone. He is a young good coach. Like he really wants to make Ames home? My God, come on. I am not saying he would leave for Illinois or Indiana or K-state. But I guarantee when Tennessee or Arkansas or Ucla or schools like that call which they will he is answering. As all coaches he will say all the right things but he is gone. And not just cause of money although he will get paid more, but he knows ISU may pull an upset now and again, but they will always be little brother in a small state and always nationallly looked at as a horrific program.
I will take that bet, you can't stand the thought of ISU being any good SO you are desperately hoping that he leaves,
to you ISU is a scum program as has no RIGHT to get better or have a coach that can make them better and want him GONE.
Not at all. I laid it out. He has no connection to Iowa. Dude, unless you are Mac or Rhodes it is a stepping stone. Sorry but a fact. ISU is behind another team in a small state known as the Hawkeye State and he is young and aggressive. Come on. It doesn't matter his record it is a Hawkeye State and he has an ego. Like all coaches. He knows he will get upsets cause he is a good coach. But never going to compete. I mean Jesus ISU had to travel to Akron this year. If Campbell is at ISU in 2 years I would be beyond shocked.
I have a buddy from work that worships ISU and said on monday after OK win, he gone. Iasked why and said what kujawa basicly said!
JFC I don't get why people don't get it. We have a coach with Iowa coaching roots and for better or worse Captain Kirk is an NFL guy. He was staying or going to the NFL. And had multiple kids going to school in IC. Campbell is a new school (and doing it well) college coach with no Iowa ties. And knows, regardless of games he wins, he is in a tiny State and will always be second fiddle. Period. He has an ego like all good ones do. Jesus, people think he will stay in Ames and play little brother when there is no question he will have monster opportunities at other Power 5 schools? Come on. The only upside in Ames is beating an OU or other upset so he can jump. He has already made reference to the Hawkeye presence, the difficulty in recruiting to ISU and what his goals are. So weird people can even argue it. As an Iowa fan, I want him gone. He is good and has the new school aggressive mentality. For those ISU fans that think his anchor is in deep in Ames. Well will be a rude awakening.
It appears you think Iowa is called the Hawkeye state because of the Iowa Hawkeyes. I hate to bust your balloon but that isn't the case. Iowa was the Hawkeye state long before Iowa had a football team.
As your balloon begins to float please let all of us know how many people outside of the state, heck how many people in state know that fact.
Uh, for a better job. If he continues this type of success, he gone. By the way, I still see ISU at 5-7 this year.
Neither Fry or Ferentz had any connection to Iowa besides a stint as an assistant. Campbell would stay because he can mold his program and form a legacy just like Fry and Ferentz. Unlike Fry and Ferentz, Campbell is a Midwestern guy.
Fry was from Texas and Ferentz was a Pennsylvania guy and 1 stayed for 20 years and KF is going on 19 with a contract that will make his tenure 29 years.
Honestly, all of these Matt Campbell predictions are ridiculous. Unless you personally talk with Matt Campbell or live inside of his head, you have no clue.
Guessing whether he leaves or stays is like guessing the flip of a coin. Just because it's landed on tails three times in a row doesn't mean the odds of it landing on heads has changed. It's still 50/50. Yes, historically, ISU coaches, who've had any type of success (minus Chizik, unless 5 wins in two years is success), have left for a better job--see Johnny Majors and Earl Bruce. So, 3/3 times over the last 40 + years an ISU coach has bolted for a better job (if they weren't canned). Still doesn't predict what Matt Campbell will do.
Do the reasons laid out for Campbell to leave make sense? Of course. There was a time I was certain Ferentz was headed to the NFL. Doesn't mean it will happen.
I think, lol, we are also getting the cart ahead of the horse. ISU SEEMS to be trending up and SEEMS to be getting better, but we thought the same thing about Paul Rhoads' 2011 team after they knocked off Okie State. We all know how that turned out. If history repeats itself with Campbell, then the point seemingly becomes moot (seemingly because I still scratch my head at the Auburn hire of Chizik).
While I think this ISU team is different, finishing the year 1-5 isn't out of the realm of possibilities, either. We just don't know. So, relax, Iowa fans. After all, if ISU does happen to become competitive, isn't that what many of us have asked for in the first place? Bolster the SOS since Iowa is locked into a contract with them, anyway? Seems like a good ISU football team is exactly what many of us have wished for. Let's see how this plays out. Either way, should be a win/win for Iowa,right?
Guessing whether he leaves or stays is like guessing the flip of a coin. Just because it's landed on tails three times in a row doesn't mean the odds of it landing on heads has changed. It's still 50/50. Yes, historically, ISU coaches, who've had any type of success (minus Chizik, unless 5 wins in two years is success), have left for a better job--see Johnny Majors and Earl Bruce. So, 3/3 times over the last 40 + years an ISU coach has bolted for a better job (if they weren't canned). Still doesn't predict what Matt Campbell will do.
Do the reasons laid out for Campbell to leave make sense? Of course. There was a time I was certain Ferentz was headed to the NFL. Doesn't mean it will happen.
I think, lol, we are also getting the cart ahead of the horse. ISU SEEMS to be trending up and SEEMS to be getting better, but we thought the same thing about Paul Rhoads' 2011 team after they knocked off Okie State. We all know how that turned out. If history repeats itself with Campbell, then the point seemingly becomes moot (seemingly because I still scratch my head at the Auburn hire of Chizik).
While I think this ISU team is different, finishing the year 1-5 isn't out of the realm of possibilities, either. We just don't know. So, relax, Iowa fans. After all, if ISU does happen to become competitive, isn't that what many of us have asked for in the first place? Bolster the SOS since Iowa is locked into a contract with them, anyway? Seems like a good ISU football team is exactly what many of us have wished for. Let's see how this plays out. Either way, should be a win/win for Iowa,right?
I think we all know that Kujawa is twisted on the subject of Iowa State, but that doesn't mean he can't be right from time to time. His argument that Campbell would leave for a job like Tennessee or UCLA is entirely logical. Those are better jobs than ISU by most standards.
However, there are other factors. For starters, Campbell's goal is to put ISU in a position where there aren't a lot of better jobs. I am not suggesting he will succeed; I'm saying that's what his aim is. For another, not all coaches have the same career priorities. Earle Bruce has said many times that he wouldn't have left ISU for any job other than his alma mater, for instance.
What I'm saying is that there was never a doubt that Johnny Majors was looking at ISU as a stepping stone. That hasn't been established with Campbell. And it's wise to remember that his background is different; he already has chosen to go the less prestigious route, transferring from Pitt to Mt. Union because he liked the atmosphere better. It's entirely possible, if he and his family like Ames, that he would be likely to stay.
But as I (and others) pointed out earlier, this is far, far too early in his tenure to be speculating like this.
However, there are other factors. For starters, Campbell's goal is to put ISU in a position where there aren't a lot of better jobs. I am not suggesting he will succeed; I'm saying that's what his aim is. For another, not all coaches have the same career priorities. Earle Bruce has said many times that he wouldn't have left ISU for any job other than his alma mater, for instance.
What I'm saying is that there was never a doubt that Johnny Majors was looking at ISU as a stepping stone. That hasn't been established with Campbell. And it's wise to remember that his background is different; he already has chosen to go the less prestigious route, transferring from Pitt to Mt. Union because he liked the atmosphere better. It's entirely possible, if he and his family like Ames, that he would be likely to stay.
But as I (and others) pointed out earlier, this is far, far too early in his tenure to be speculating like this.
Kirk’s was a bit more than a stint, he was in IC for 8 years as an assistant and his children were born there.
Amazing the attendance numbers they had for as bad as they were. Different time I guess.
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