Damn. you beat me too it! I mean, no wonder the big 12 has an inferiority complex. The BIG award is the Hayes/Schembechler award right. Named after legendary coaches. The big 12 is named after Joe whats his name. How fitting is that.......Who the Hell is Chuck Neinas? Is he the Drummer for the Nada's?
I had to look it up too. Former commissioner of the Big 8. Solid choice for your coach of the year award name. The Big XII Academic excellence award is the Byron Hanspard award.Who the Hell is Chuck Neinas? Is he the Drummer for the Nada's?
I had to look it up too. Former commissioner of the Big 8. Solid choice for your coach of the year award name. The Big XII Academic excellence award is the Byron Hanspard award.
Or Van Phillips...lol...for his undefeated season. Joanne Johnson/Fisher is my first cousin, think she was in your class.This actually is worth a raised eyebrow. The award almost always goes to the coach of the conference champion, occasionally the runnerup. I didn't know they named it for Neinas. Bizarre. He was a good commissioner, but naming COY award for him?
If you had made me guess, I would have guessed Bud Wilkinson.
It says you get a raise!!He has done a great job but what does it say when 7-5 gets you COY?
I don't follow Big 12 COY's. But your comment surprises me. When I think COY I think of a guy whose team surprised people with their success.This actually is worth a raised eyebrow. The award almost always goes to the coach of the conference champion, occasionally the runnerup. I didn't know they named it for Neinas. Bizarre. He was a good commissioner, but naming COY award for him?
If you had made me guess, I would have guessed Bud Wilkinson.
He has done a great job but what does it say when 7-5 gets you COY?
It's more than wins (or it should be IMO).
The games I watched they just struck me as a very well coached team. Had some talent, but not a a ton and got every inch out of the guys they had.
It should be, but it hasn't been that way historically. In the 22 years the Big XII has existed, this is the first time COY has gone to a coach whose team didn't at least tie for a division title, and in 19 of those 22 years it went to a champion. For example, Mac won it in 2004 when ISU tied for the North Division title. This is pretty standard; the BiG history is very similar.I don't follow Big 12 COY's. But your comment surprises me. When I think COY I think of a guy whose team surprised people with their success.
You still can be a surprise and be first or second in your division / conference. Your example is more than proof of that.It should be, but it hasn't been that way historically. In the 22 years the Big XII has existed, this is the first time COY has gone to a coach whose team didn't at least tie for a division title, and in 19 of those 22 years it went to a champion. For example, Mac won it in 2004 when ISU tied for the North Division title. This is pretty standard; the BiG history is very similar.
When the coach beats both teams playing for conference titleHe has done a great job but what does it say when 7-5 gets you COY?
You mean the Ferentz who is 2-0 against the Big 12 coach of the year. Yeah. I'm sure it will light a fire.Well deserved. Glad he is staying, maybe it will light a fire under the Ferentz clown car.
He has done a great job but what does it say when 7-5 gets you COY?
Given ISU's 2 big wins and how tough they were against everybody else ... the honor is well-deserved. Other teams overlooked the cyclones at their own peril.This actually is worth a raised eyebrow. The award almost always goes to the coach of the conference champion, occasionally the runnerup. I didn't know they named it for Neinas. Bizarre. He was a good commissioner, but naming COY award for him?
If you had made me guess, I would have guessed Bud Wilkinson.
I think that the argument against the new guy at OU is that he had Baker Mayfield at the helm and the Big 12 had a "relatively" down year this year. Thus, OU landed about where most folks would have expected.Totally understand why Campbell got it, but you could sure make an argument for the new dude at OU (too lazy to look it up). Major pressure and playing for the conference and maybe national championship? I realize the cupboard wasn't exactly empty and it is OU, but still.
Nice to see any hardware make it's way in to the state though!
I didn't mean to suggest it wasn't deserved. I just noted that deserved or not, it's highly unusual for a coach to win this honor without winning the league (or a division if that's the situation).Given ISU's 2 big wins and how tough they were against everybody else ... the honor is well-deserved. Other teams overlooked the cyclones at their own peril.
You didn't respond to my post. They should have named the award after Van Phillips, for his 1963 undefeated season.I didn't mean to suggest it wasn't deserved. I just noted that deserved or not, it's highly unusual for a coach to win this honor without winning the league (or a division if that's the situation).
Still well deserved though. I mean what other team exceeded expectations better the ISU this year in the 12? No one would have picked them to beat OK on the road, or TCU at home. Didn't they still have a shot at the championship with a couple of weeks to go? The one they've never won in their history. I would think he would have won it hands down.This actually is worth a raised eyebrow. The award almost always goes to the coach of the conference champion, occasionally the runnerup. I didn't know they named it for Neinas. Bizarre. He was a good commissioner, but naming COY award for him?
If you had made me guess, I would have guessed Bud Wilkinson.
Damn. you beat me too it! I mean, no wonder the big 12 has an inferiority complex. The BIG award is the Hayes/Schembechler award right. Named after legendary coaches. The big 12 is named after Joe whats his name. How fitting is that.......
You apparently did not watch the game this year. Iowa should of lost and relied on some crazy stuff happening to bail them out.You mean the Ferentz who is 2-0 against the Big 12 coach of the year. Yeah. I'm sure it will light a fire.
You apparently did not watch the game this year. Iowa should of lost and relied on some crazy stuff happening to bail them out.