You are mistaken. There is no way a 1 loss OSU gets in over a 1 loss OU. It will not ever happen in a year where OSU lost to OU in the shoe.
ISU will never win a national championship
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I will cut you some slack because you are a newbie. You have no way of knowing that I am never wrong.
Ya, Isn't Gene Smith (OSU AD) on the CFP Committee? And didn't OSU get picked over PSU last year even though PSU one head-to-head? And OSU got lit up by Clemson in the Semis 31-0?
I think OSU gets ranked over OU as well, but not going to sit well and doesn't seem they weight "head to head" highly.
The only hope OU has is if they win out and beat the crap out of ISU in the league title game. I think they'll probably win out, but I don't think they'll be playing ISU in the title game.
Recognized nationally, now that's funny. Kind of ironic that it's the "bad loss" to Iowa that is keeping ISU out of the playoff picture this year.
Well, say what you want about Iowa but we certainly are a very recognizable national brand. And losing to a 5-3 team is not a bad loss, don't be an idiot. ISU wouldn't have a shot at the playoff even if they had they beaten Iowa so nothing to get upset about.
You lost twice at home, don't be foolish thinking Iowa is the loss keeping you out of the playoff. If a five and three Iowa is bad in the BIG with losses to two nationally ranked schools and an overtime loss in Northwestern.
How good is a five hundred Texas who got shellacked at home to Maryland? The Big Twelve is the worst P5 conference in the land.
Congrats on your season so far.
Ya, do you have any stats that B12 is the worst conference in the land? lol On the ESPN power index, 8 of 10 teams are in the top 36 and Texas is ranked #19. - http://www.espn.com/college-football/statistics/teamratings.
Texas has improved throughout the season with first year coach Tom Herman, and not the same team that played Maryland.
Good luck against Ohio State. Hawks have had some tough injuries, but have a solid D and could pull the upset.
ISU season has been a pleasant surprise exceeding expectations, but no delusions of making the CFP.
Texas has improved throughout the season with first year coach Tom Herman, and not the same team that played Maryland.
Good luck against Ohio State. Hawks have had some tough injuries, but have a solid D and could pull the upset.
ISU season has been a pleasant surprise exceeding expectations, but no delusions of making the CFP.
Ya, check out their record against ranked teams. lol Not the same team that lost to Maryland by 10 in Herman's first game as coach:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/251/texas-longhorns
I think so as well. Get to the end of the season, when both teams have played their full schedule, and if it comes down to those two teams (and their both conference champs) I think they have to put OU in front. The thing with the committee is, they do what they want week to week and change their reasons as they do it, so who knows.
1>0. Came darn close four other times. Also, a word of advice, you can poke the bear if you want but you should probably not touch Kinnick. You can't attack that guy without looking like a rube.
I think they would. They'd be a one-loss P5 team with two wins over top 5 teams. It'd be a pretty solid résumé.
Dude, stop right there. ESPN's rankings are built to serve ESPN's purposes. They have no statistical or objective validity.
The Big Twelve is the worst P5 conference in the land.
Sagarin disagrees with you. Check out conferences ranked through Oct 28 games:
https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/2017/conference/
Sagarin disagrees with you. Check out conferences ranked through Oct 28 games:
https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/2017/conference/
Conference rankings are always a fun topic because everyone uses a different method of computation to fit their narrative. Is a top-heavy conference "better" than a conference rated higher using central mean? That could be a lengthy thread in itself.
Pretty sure any conference that has 40% of their teams ranked in the top 15 through 9 weeks of college football season is definitely not the worst P5 conference. There are plenty of more "easy outs" in the Big Ten's 14 teams than the Big 12's 9 game schedule that's for sure (see Wisconsin's schedule)!
I never said the Big 12 was the worst (they're not), but there are many ways to compare.
True but others in this thread said so much so I was just arguing that fact.
Banks had a half dozen good games and two bad ones. The idea of him being the Heisman runnerup was ridiculous. He had a great supporting cast.
What does that have to do with being a Heisman contender? The amount of butthurt from state fans after a tiny bit of success lately has been astounding.
Ya, stating the obvious, he was good, but not great.
Now the O-Line (Gallery, et all) and TE (Clark), they were great. And were drafted in the NFL.
Now the O-Line (Gallery, et all) and TE (Clark), they were great. And were drafted in the NFL.
I wandered past this thread a few times before entering the weeds. A few points.
1) I'm at odds over the premise that if Oklahoma wins out, they should get in over OSU. Head to head matters, but I believe Oklahoma was top ten when they beat OSU at home, while they lost to a (then) unranked ISU at home. If both teams win out, losing to a still top ten Oklahoma might be more favorable than losing to a top 25 or possibly ranked ISU team.
2) I've heard from a few that the Iowa loss could hold them down. Remember, Iowa could possibly be in the position to beat 2 top 5 teams as well and end up with a better season than ISU. I'll tip my cap for what's been accomplished, but a lot can happen in 4 weeks. '02 should have taught us something.
That said, I don't blame ISU fans whatsoever for being enthusiastic about the season to this point.
1) I'm at odds over the premise that if Oklahoma wins out, they should get in over OSU. Head to head matters, but I believe Oklahoma was top ten when they beat OSU at home, while they lost to a (then) unranked ISU at home. If both teams win out, losing to a still top ten Oklahoma might be more favorable than losing to a top 25 or possibly ranked ISU team.
2) I've heard from a few that the Iowa loss could hold them down. Remember, Iowa could possibly be in the position to beat 2 top 5 teams as well and end up with a better season than ISU. I'll tip my cap for what's been accomplished, but a lot can happen in 4 weeks. '02 should have taught us something.
That said, I don't blame ISU fans whatsoever for being enthusiastic about the season to this point.
A lot of ISU fans are blue-skying about this and that but not really expecting it. Cyclones are, after all, underdogs for this Saturday's game. I think we could go anywhere from 0-4 to 4-0, seriously.
With respect to OU and tOSU, the ISU win over TCU makes OU's loss look a whole lot better.
Ya, was pleased to see the CFP committee takes into account that a team (Ex: ISU, Arizona) may not be the same team as the start of season, so OU loss may not be that bad.
Never da less, lot of football left with tOSU, OU, ISU; tOSU has the best chance to go unbeaten down da stretch.
I agree with that. Who really knows at this point. I try not to get too wrapped up in the first playoff rankings. So much can happen between now and the final rankings.
Enjoy the ride.
