"It's an Absolute Disgrace for People to Steal BB games." The officials "deserve to be in jail."

[Franisdaman]

I’m not wasting my time with you. Your bias is pretty clear. Comparing an incident from 1982 to something in 2019 doesn’t hold water. The world has changed. If you don’t understand that I can’t help you. Have a lovely day Fran.

why don't you see that coaches and fans behaved badly in 1982 & not much has changed in 37 years?

* An Iowa coach behaved badly in 1982.

* An Iowa coach behaved badly in 2019.

* Iowa fans behaved badly in 1982.
2 examples of that bad behavior:
--Iowa fans threatened Jim Bain's life
--Two Iowa fans produced tshirts with a Jim Bain likeness with a noose around his neck.

* College basketball fans across the country continue to behave badly in 2019. Hence, my 2017 example where Kentucky fans threatened referee John Higgins after their tournament loss to North Carolina. Another recent example is when Ole Miss fans did not like a call in their game at home vs Tennessee, they threw objects on to the court.

 

[HawkLogic]

Jim Bain made a call with no time on the clock that gave purdue a walk off win.

In Fran's case, his team was blown out by 20 pts and gave up 50pts in a half of B-ball on defense.

Jim Bain did make a shitty call that determined outcome of a game. The refs in IOwa vs OSU did not determine outcome, Iowa lost because they played shitty defense.

 

[C/Seahawk]

why don't you see that coaches and fans behaved badly in 1982 & not much has changed in 37 years?

* An Iowa coach behaved badly in 1982.

* An Iowa coach behaved badly in 2019.

* Iowa fans behaved badly in 1982.
2 examples of that bad behavior:
--Iowa fans threatened Jim Bain's life
--Two Iowa fans produced tshirts with a Jim Bain likeness with a noose around his neck.

* College basketball fans across the country continue to behave badly in 2019. Hence, my 2017 example where Kentucky fans threatened referee John Higgins after their tournament loss to North Carolina. Another recent example is when Ole Miss fans did not like a call in their game at home vs Tennessee, they threw objects on to the court.

for crying out loud, give it a rest. You need to grow up just like the morons you are referencing in your numerous posts or 'examples' of bad behavior. Your posting behavior is becoming just as appalling as Fran chasing down a ref in the hallway screaming obscenities. A lot of people are dumb...a lot of people are morons...of course your going to find examples of bad behavior...one example doesn't justify another.

step away from the keyboard for a while please.

 

[KuwaitHawk]

Jim Bain NEVER did another Iowa game after that.

 

[youflog1hawk]

"Threating language"

Calling someone a Cheating MotherEffer is not threatening them. Saying "I'm going to kill you, you cheating mothereffer" is.

I’m not wasting my time with you. Your bias is pretty clear. Comparing an incident from 1982 to something in 2019 doesn’t hold water. The world has changed. If you don’t understand that I can’t help you. Have a lovely day Fran.

what are you a millenial? History never means anything to the ignorant. It actually it is the most important educational factor of life.

 

[youflog1hawk]

for crying out loud, give it a rest. You need to grow up just like the morons you are referencing in your numerous posts or 'examples' of bad behavior. Your posting behavior is becoming just as appalling as Fran chasing down a ref in the hallway screaming obscenities. A lot of people are dumb...a lot of people are morons...of course your going to find examples of bad behavior...one example doesn't justify another.

step away from the keyboard for a while please.

If you think that anyone is justifying Frans behavior your sadly mistaken. It’s the hyperbole of those bias idiots who want to make Frans action something out of the ordinary. We all need to move on but no reason to let a false narrative of Fran be pushed by the social media bullies.

 

[doughuddl2]

Often it is how and when you express ideas that count as much or more than the idea itself. Olson did not run after Bain using threatening language. In addition, Bain may have cost us that game versus a 20 point beat down.

Olson could be arrogant and defensive but usually remained cool. McCaffery: not so much. The reason to like Lute is that Bobby Knight hated him.

Yes he did Mike. He ran into the court to confront him.

 

[seseroy]

what are you a millenial? History never means anything to the ignorant. It actually it is the most important educational factor of life.

Well said. Could not agree more. People have not changed, the constant monitoring and sheep like flow of the communications age is what has changed. People are so scared to offend someone it is laughable. Think for yourself? Thing of the past...

 

[MikeT2425]

Yes he did Mike. He ran into the court to confront him.

Good point. I tried to erase all the excrusiating details of the end of that game from my black and gold memory.

 

[83Hawk]

Those words came out of Lute Olson's mouth.

In 1982.

He wasn't suspended, by the way.

From UPI's (United Press International) archive:


Iowa Coach Lute Olson, loudly complaining about college basketball...

March 8, 1982

IOWA CITY, Iowa -- Iowa Coach Lute Olson, loudly complaining about college basketball officiating, takes his team to Logan, Utah, later this week in the quarterfinal round of the NCAA tournament.

The Hawkeyes face Northeast Louisiana, 19-10, Friday.

The Indians, members of the Trans-America Athletic Conference, earned a bid Saturday night with a 98-95 victory over Centenary.

But Olson still is upset with the officiating during the Iowa-Purdue game Saturday at West Lafeyette, Ind.

With the Hawkeyes and Purdue tied at 65-65 and no time showing on the clock, official Jim Bain whistled forward Kevin Boyle for a foul on Purdue's Dan Palombizio.

Palombizio sank a free throw to give his team the 66-65 upset and hand Iowa its fifth loss in its last seven games. The Hawks lost any hope of sharing the Big Ten title with the defeat. Minnesota clinched the outright championship by beating Ohio State.

Iowa ended its season in second place in the Big Ten with a 12-6 league record, 12-6 overall.

After the Purdue game, Olson charged onto the court seconds after the game to confront Bain, but the official rushed off. In a post-game news conference, Olson said Bain stole the game from the Hawkeyes. He said the game's officials 'deserve to be in jail.'

'You can chalk this one up to Bain and his crew,' said the angry Olson. 'It's an absolute disgrace for people to steal basketball games from players this way. When officials don't see the call they should not make it.'

Olson said television replays showed Boyle to be eight feet away from Palombizio when the foul call was made. He also said senior guard Kenny Arnold 'was absolutely hammered, yet there was no guts on anyone's part to make the call.'

Big Ten officials apparently were listening to Olson's gripes. Commissioner Wayne Duke said Sunday the conference will review the game and requested Olson to bring film and tapes of the controversial finish into the league office.

Duke said his decision to call in game films was 'an extension of but in accordance with' normal league practice of allowing coaches to send their own complaints about officiating to the league office.

Duke also said a league review of its officiating procedures had been underway long before Olson called Saturday for a complete shakeup.

LINK: https://www.upi.com/Archives/1982/0...ining-about-college-basketball/8252384411600/

Remember watching that game and being very upset at Bain. Seconds earlier Kenny Arnold was going in for a layup that likely would have won the game. He was hammered...a blatant foul...but nothing called.

If I recall, Bain had to catch a plane to officiate another game that night. An overtime might have caused him to miss it.

 

[danloney]

it hasn't worked for you...

nice job comparing apples to grapefruit. Fran got what he deserved, let it go. And yes, we live in a much different time and place now compared to what was acceptable nearly 40 years ago. I'm sorry you can't seem to comprehend that.

Yep. liberalism has changed the world and I am afraid for the worse. Parents can’t discipline their children, teachers are afraid of students and parents, officials can determine games without recourse and some institutions are correcting class papers in pink so kids don’t feel bad. Wow! What a world!

 

[walleye hunter16]

Apples and oranges.

Lute didn’t have a red faced reputation and wasn’t on a short leash.

And Lute was a god around here.

Life must be so good when you can make up your on rules on how its played.
Zebras are people and they make mistakes and its utter BS that criticism by a coach or school results in penalties.
They don't have an easy job but the work and its challenges are in their own hands to control. The better job they do the less crap they have to deal with.
Fans are idiots and its understandable to have harsh words and actions for those people. Players and coaches are a different story.
Coaches and players have a lot of respect for the zebras but that is lost very quickly when they lose their bias and we all know it happens.

 

[denmar81]

Jim Bain made a call with no time on the clock that gave purdue a walk off win.

In Fran's case, his team was blown out by 20 pts and gave up 50pts in a half of B-ball on defense.

Jim Bain did make a shitty call that determined outcome of a game. The refs in IOwa vs OSU did not determine outcome, Iowa lost because they played shitty defense.

The outcome doesn’t make a difference. The fact is an official made some mistakes. It’s happening way to often in way too many games throughout college basketball. The inept abilities of some officials are taking away the enjoyment of the game.

 

[mrF6n6]

my hope is the FBI is currently secretly investigating some of these referees that a number of us suspect are cheating for financial gain.

its quite naive, imo, to believe that no referees are cheating.
naive to believe that only coaches and players cheat, but not referees.

 

[Harbinger273]

my hope is the FBI is currently secretly investigating some of these referees that a number of us suspect are cheating for financial gain.

its quite naive, imo, to believe that no referees are cheating.
naive to believe that only coaches and players cheat, but not referees.

This is what I've been thinking. Donaghy did it in the NBA and I'm sure others did too without getting caught. Big money involved in college games and of course refs are the unquestioned influencers who can change the game at will. There is very likely something of substance, worth investigating, that motivated Fran's outburst.

 

[TheTruthTheWholeTruth]

it hasn't worked for you...

nice job comparing apples to grapefruit. Fran got what he deserved, let it go. And yes, we live in a much different time and place now compared to what was acceptable nearly 40 years ago. I'm sorry you can't seem to comprehend that.

Whataboutism is quickly climbing the list of my least favorite isms. It’s a really poor attempt at deflecting blame. Very well said, Seahawk.

 

[TheTruthTheWholeTruth]

This is what I've been thinking. Donaghy did it in the NBA and I'm sure others did too without getting caught. Big money involved in college games and of course refs are the unquestioned influencers who can change the game at will. There is very likely something of substance, worth investigating, that motivated Fran's outburst.

Donaghy fixes games, no doubt. There are other NBA officials that may be doing the same thing or, at the very least, have “unconscious bias” in favor of certain teams.

I was messing around with a database last night that tracks point spreads in varying situations (teams/road/home/favorite/underdog officials etc) and I was able to pinpoint certain teams, playing st home, with certain officials, that did remarkably well against the spread. Now, I understand that correlation does not necessarily imply causation but..........

 

[Franisdaman]

If you think that anyone is justifying Frans behavior your sadly mistaken. It’s the hyperbole of those bias idiots who want to make Frans action something out of the ordinary. We all need to move on but no reason to let a false narrative of Fran be pushed by the social media bullies.

yeah, i don't anyone is justifying Fran's behavior.

but for people to think Fran is unique is crazy. Look at Izzo, for example.

My point of this thread is that you can go back to 1982 to find:

* An Iowa head coach behaving VERY badly towards an official

* Iowa fans threatening Jim Bain's life

* Iowa fans (2 of them) creating Tshirts with Jim Bain's likeness and a noose around his neck

But who paid consequences for their bad behavior?

* Lute was not fined or suspended.

* The 2 Iowa fans got sued by Jim Bain and Jim Bain won

* Fran was suspended, reprimanded, and lost $10,000 out of his pocket.


It's simply an interesting topic I think.

Not condoning Fran's actions at all. He obviously crossed a line. But he got caught, too. It really makes you wonder what some of these coaches say to officials that don't get caught.

But again, Fran is far from unique when it comes to how a coach treats an official.

 

[Franisdaman]

for crying out loud, give it a rest. You need to grow up just like the morons you are referencing in your numerous posts or 'examples' of bad behavior. Your posting behavior is becoming just as appalling as Fran chasing down a ref in the hallway screaming obscenities. A lot of people are dumb...a lot of people are morons...of course your going to find examples of bad behavior...one example doesn't justify another.

step away from the keyboard for a while please.

Whataboutism is quickly climbing the list of my least favorite isms. It’s a really poor attempt at deflecting blame. Very well said, Seahawk.

Again, no one is condoning Fran's behavior. Quote a post where someone is condoning Fran's behavior.

Not surprised that neither of you can see this.

You both have behaved miserably in bringing common sense (or anything else, for that matter) to the discussion,

 

[mrF6n6]

Again, no one is condoning Fran's behavior. Quote a post where someone is condoning Fran's behavior.

Not surprised that neither of you can see this.

You both have behaved miserably in bringing common sense (or anything else, for that matter) to the discussion,

Fran believed a ref was cheating (as did I) and called him out on it.... I have no problem with that at all...

in fact, I think this sort of thing should happen more often... and to your point, it probably does... we just aren't privy to it.

 

[Franisdaman]

Well said. Could not agree more. People have not changed, the constant monitoring and sheep like flow of the communications age is what has changed. People are so scared to offend someone it is laughable. Think for yourself? Thing of the past...

And Twitter makes things worse.

Fran behaved badly, no doubt; he got fined and suspended.

For some reason a couple knuckleheads in this thread think fans are condoning Fran's behavior. Well, they are not.

It's interesting; if you look at social medial, people are posting the worst pictures they can find of Fran and they are posting stuff in hopes they get clicks, retweets and likes.

Imagine if Twitter had been around when Lute was coaching Iowa during the Bain incident? We can only speculate but Lute chasing Bain surely would have gone viral. Lute's comments in the postgame press conference surely would have gone viral.

Lute felt like he was living in a fish bowl in Iowa City. Imagine what Twitter would have made him feel like.

 

[TheTruthTheWholeTruth]

Again, no one is condoning Fran's behavior. Quote a post where someone is condoning Fran's behavior.

Not surprised that neither of you can see this.

You both have behaved miserably in bringing common sense (or anything else, for that matter) to the discussion,

Throwing shade again, Fran? One of has to rise up our petty arguments. That person shall be me. Have a good day and Go Hawks!

 

[Franisdaman]

Remember watching that game and being very upset at Bain. Seconds earlier Kenny Arnold was going in for a layup that likely would have won the game. He was hammered...a blatant foul...but nothing called.

If I recall, Bain had to catch a plane to officiate another game that night. An overtime might have caused him to miss it.

I think the whole Iowa fan base was upset with Bain.

I forgot about the Kenny Arnold layup where he got hammered and nothing was called.

Interesting that Bain allegedly had a flight to catch.

Thanks for the adult discussion. Can't believe that was 37 years ago.

You make up for the other 2 knuckleheads posting in this thread!

NOTE: I am sure they will be posting more in this thread! One of them, ironically, can't handle "the truth!" LOL

 

[Franisdaman]

Life must be so good when you can make up your on rules on how its played.
Zebras are people and they make mistakes and its utter BS that criticism by a coach or school results in penalties.
They don't have an easy job but the work and its challenges are in their own hands to control. The better job they do the less crap they have to deal with.
Fans are idiots and its understandable to have harsh words and actions for those people. Players and coaches are a different story.
Coaches and players have a lot of respect for the zebras but that is lost very quickly when they lose their bias and we all know it happens.

Even the Ohio State coach got T'd up based on what he was seeing. And man, he was not happy throughout the entire first half.

Again, did Fran cross a line? Yes. Is he paying the consequences? Yes.

Does he do something like this again? I certainly hope not, for his sake. I mean, how many times can you be suspended by the B1G conference? This is the 2nd time for Fran. Obviously not a good look.

Fight for your guys. But don't cross the line.

 

[Franisdaman]

Remember watching that game and being very upset at Bain. Seconds earlier Kenny Arnold was going in for a layup that likely would have won the game. He was hammered...a blatant foul...but nothing called.

If I recall, Bain had to catch a plane to officiate another game that night. An overtime might have caused him to miss it.

Nice avatar, btw.

I think Baer plays like King Kong today.

Who's your King Kong player of the game prediction?

 

[Franisdaman]

The outcome doesn’t make a difference. The fact is an official made some mistakes. It’s happening way to often in way too many games throughout college basketball. The inept abilities of some officials are taking away the enjoyment of the game.

Isn't there a huge shortage of officials in high school and college? Not sure about the pro ranks.

After all, who would want to be one?

 

[iahawks10]

Isn't there a huge shortage of officials in high school and college? Not sure about the pro ranks.

After all, who would want to be one?

$1,000-$3,000 per game with little to no accountability? I’ll get yelled out for a couple hours a day for five months while making a couple hundred thousand a year.

 

[Franisdaman]

my hope is the FBI is currently secretly investigating some of these referees that a number of us suspect are cheating for financial gain.

its quite naive, imo, to believe that no referees are cheating.
naive to believe that only coaches and players cheat, but not referees.

This is what I've been thinking. Donaghy did it in the NBA and I'm sure others did too without getting caught. Big money involved in college games and of course refs are the unquestioned influencers who can change the game at will. There is very likely something of substance, worth investigating, that motivated Fran's outburst.

It is an interesting word choice by Fran. Iowa lost by 20. Ohio State was better that night. Fran could have simply said that the ref was worthless & bad at his job. Instead, he also threw in that he was a "cheating bleep."

I bet these college coaches know a lot more than they will ever admit publicly. Just a hunch.

The related story from HawkCentral:

on Tuesday. McCaffery was heard repeatedly shouting expletives and calling the official a "cheating (expletive)" and a "(expletive) disgrace."

 

[Hawkdome]

I'm old enough to remember this and Lute was 100% right. Bain is a swear word to me

........
Fans were threatening Jim Bain family. Lute was informed of this on a radio show. And lute still poured it on showing no concern for his family. That was not good. Sorry to hear that lute is in hospice though.

 

[Douglas C. Neidermeyer]

“Bain testified during the court proceedings last week that the foul should have been called on Iowa center Greg Stokes.”

Honest mistake. yeah. I could totally see how you could get Boyle and Stokes mixed up.

 

[HawkRugged17]

“Bain testified during the court proceedings last week that the foul should have been called on Iowa center Greg Stokes.”

Honest mistake. yeah. I could totally see how you could get Boyle and Stokes mixed up.

Numbers 40 (Boyle) and 41 (Stokes), right? Is he saying he just signaled the wrong number to the scorer's table?

 

[The Deplorable Sleeping Dog]

That year the Big 10 clearly rigged the title. No other explanation is possible.

The two games before, Minnesota and Illinois had appalling officiating. All one direction. Minnesota game ended after 3 OTs with Minnesota at the line on a foul that was not discernible from any TV replay. Gannon missed Tucker by 6-8" End, 1 game up in BT race.

The final two minutes of the Illinois game same thing. Illinois was trying to give fouls, pushed Kenny Arnold OB, officials saw something that did not happen and gave the ball to Illinois for the last possession. End tied for BT Title.

But the Purdue game was the most blatantly corrupt officiating I think most people have ever seen. Jim Bain in particular brought the cheating to things that were, at the time, unbelievable. Never forget the travel call he came running from under the basket to call on K Boyle on the next to last possession. No travel occurred. Nothing that could have been seen as a travel could have been seen because nothing like it occurred. On the last possession came running from under the basket to beyond the key to call a phantom foul on Kevin Boyle. The nearest Purdue player was feet away from Boyle. Both the last two calls on Boyle were terrible, made by an official way out of position and not accidental. Bain ran to Boyle and threw his hand inches from Kevin's numbers in a very defiant and flagrant way. As all remember Purdue won the Big Ten Title by hitting free throws on a phantom call with a dead clock.

As bad as the officiating is now, it is nothing like the 70s-mid 90s.

 

[papabeef]

That year the Big 10 clearly rigged the title. No other explanation is possible.

The two games before, Minnesota and Illinois had appalling officiating. All one direction. Minnesota game ended after 3 OTs with Minnesota at the line on a foul that was not discernible from any TV replay. Gannon missed Tucker by 6-8" End, 1 game up in BT race.

The final two minutes of the Illinois game same thing. Illinois was trying to give fouls, pushed Kenny Arnold OB, officials saw something that did not happen and gave the ball to Illinois for the last possession. End tied for BT Title.

But the Purdue game was the most blatantly corrupt officiating I think most people have ever seen. Jim Bain in particular brought the cheating to things that were, at the time, unbelievable. Never forget the travel call he came running from under the basket to call on K Boyle on the next to last possession. No travel occurred. Nothing that could have been seen as a travel could have been seen because nothing like it occurred. On the last possession came running from under the basket to beyond the key to call a phantom foul on Kevin Boyle. The nearest Purdue player was feet away from Boyle. Both the last two calls on Boyle were terrible, made by an official way out of position and not accidental. Bain ran to Boyle and threw his hand inches from Kevin's numbers in a very defiant and flagrant way. As all remember Purdue won the Big Ten Title by hitting free throws on a phantom call with a dead clock.

As bad as the officiating is now, it is nothing like the 70s-mid 90s.

LOL

 

[AMAYS]

That year the Big 10 clearly rigged the title. No other explanation is possible.

The two games before, Minnesota and Illinois had appalling officiating. All one direction. Minnesota game ended after 3 OTs with Minnesota at the line on a foul that was not discernible from any TV replay. Gannon missed Tucker by 6-8" End, 1 game up in BT race.

Without Ronnie, and in the absence of a shot clock, Lute was a poor end-of-game coach. 1981 and 1982 were both notable for late-season giveaways. Gannon's non-foul was on Daryl Mitchell, not Trent Tucker. The SI write up of that game highlighted Iowa's reputation as chokers down the stretch:

. . .
Mitchell, a 6'5" senior guard, was poised as he clutched a tough rebound after a missed Iowa shot with eight seconds left in Overtime 3. He looked under control as he dribbled up the floor and over the time line and then whirled 360 degrees to avoid a steal. "He overlapped it; he playgrounded it all the way," Iowa's freshman center, Michael Payne, said later. Mitchell seemed to be comfortable even as he jumped and launched a no-chance prayer from maybe 40 feet, and he acted merely relieved when the Hawks' Mark Gannon was whistled for the unnecessary, fateful foul.

The reasons for Mitchell's relative serenity weren't hard to guess. There was confidence born of his awareness that the Hawkeyes—notorious windsuckers in the stretch—had led the Big Ten in 1981 before losing their last two games and the championship, and that they seemed to be running scared in this season's race. And he couldn't help but feel satisfaction at having been given the opportunity to spoil an emotional orgy for the 13,365 teary-eyed faithful attending the final game at Iowa's 56-year-old Field House. Surely part of it was the pride he felt in the Gophers' having come from four points behind near the end of regulation and having survived Iowa's last-shot strategy in each overtime. . . .

 

[Ronman]

Lute didn't swear, at least in public, but he could ride the officials with the best of them. He was no shrinking violet of the sideline.

 

[silasstarr]

Apples and oranges.

Lute didn’t have a red faced reputation and wasn’t on a short leash.

And Lute was a god around here.

Fran is more composed than say Izzo, but Izzo gets away with it. Fran doesn't.

 

[The Deplorable Sleeping Dog]

Without Ronnie, and in the absence of a shot clock, Lute was a poor end-of-game coach. 1981 and 1982 were both notable for late-season giveaways. Gannon's non-foul was on Daryl Mitchell, not Trent Tucker. The SI write up of that game highlighted Iowa's reputation as chokers down the stretch:

. . .
Mitchell, a 6'5" senior guard, was poised as he clutched a tough rebound after a missed Iowa shot with eight seconds left in Overtime 3. He looked under control as he dribbled up the floor and over the time line and then whirled 360 degrees to avoid a steal. "He overlapped it; he playgrounded it all the way," Iowa's freshman center, Michael Payne, said later. Mitchell seemed to be comfortable even as he jumped and launched a no-chance prayer from maybe 40 feet, and he acted merely relieved when the Hawks' Mark Gannon was whistled for the unnecessary, fateful foul.

The reasons for Mitchell's relative serenity weren't hard to guess. There was confidence born of his awareness that the Hawkeyes—notorious windsuckers in the stretch—had led the Big Ten in 1981 before losing their last two games and the championship, and that they seemed to be running scared in this season's race. And he couldn't help but feel satisfaction at having been given the opportunity to spoil an emotional orgy for the 13,365 teary-eyed faithful attending the final game at Iowa's 56-year-old Field House. Surely part of it was the pride he felt in the Gophers' having come from four points behind near the end of regulation and having survived Iowa's last-shot strategy in each overtime. . . .

Great Minnesota write up and fantastic player memory. The point, you don't bother to mention...there was no foul. It was a phantom call. On the heels of very one sided officiating throughout the game. Every player that ever got bailed out by a bad foul call was "relieved".

Not every Lute loss can be pinned on the officials but the last three games of 81 can. Could Iowa have played the OTs better, of course. But that doesn't morally justify a terrible bail out call on a nearly impossible desperation shot. And, the next two games were worse.

 

[AMAYS]

Great Minnesota write up and fantastic player memory. The point, you don't bother to mention...there was no foul. It was a phantom call. On the heels of very one sided officiating throughout the game. Every player that ever got bailed out by a bad foul call was "relieved".

Not every Lute loss can be pinned on the officials but the last three games of 81 can. Could Iowa have played the OTs better, of course. But that doesn't morally justify a terrible bail out call on a nearly impossible desperation shot. And, the next two games were worse.

Well said. It certainly was a phantom foul on Mark Gannon.

 

[Ronman]

If I remember correctly, on Lute's Sunday TV show with Jim Zabel, they had obtained a video from a different angle of that last shot by Minnesota and it clearly showed that Gannon did not foul the shooter.

 

[HawkRugged17]