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Just like others have been saying, its going to be win at all costs at Nebraska. I don't know which team thinks they're the 2nd coming more right now, ISU or Neb.
 
Just like others have been saying, its going to be win at all costs at Nebraska. I don't know which team thinks they're the 2nd coming more right now, ISU or Neb.
The only scenario I can see is going back to the days of split national titles. Considering the number of national titles ISU and Nebby are locked into winning in both the near and distant future, several will have to be split. Hopefully the Hawks get in on the annual nationwide battle for 3rd at some point in our lifetimes.
 
Not a good thing in general. Would love to get Graves. He is a stud. Great pass rusher and good against the run too.

http://journalstar.com/sports/huske...cle_57a043ed-f3a5-5dd7-a72d-b53008f723b4.html

Not seeing too much or anything to worry about from this. I guess now the new staff there will look for some guys unlike previous staff. Iowa already has a relationship for many years and have Easily from last year Nixon this year plus 2 walk on LBs who played last season. Lastly for one player who is a DE right now that is one position Iowa has great depth along with young talent.
 
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Graves at 6'5" 240 would need to add 35-40 pounds of size to play B1G D-1 ball. He will likely need a redshirt year at his next stop. Graves (KC metro kid) was on Iowa's wish list at one time but they knew his grades were deficient. Could be a nice cushion if Epenesa become a top performer. Special athletes are needed at Iowa.
 
Yes. Know our DE depth is in better shape than it has been in awhile. He definitely plays bigger than he is. Sets edge well. Wonder how he would do at OLB in a 4-3. Unfortunately he may be a lot like Van Ginkel that he would be better served playing in a 3-4. Similar player but more athletic IMO.
 
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Nothing earth shattering really. I believe we are already 1 or 2 steps ahead on the relationship with IWCC.
If that is the case, then why has Iowa let a large number of very good players from IWCC move on to other top tier Power 5 Conference Teams? We have some of the best JC FB and BB in the country and neither FM or KF seem very interested in acquiring the talent.
 
Graves at 6'5" 240 would need to add 35-40 pounds of size to play B1G D-1 ball. He will likely need a redshirt year at his next stop. Graves (KC metro kid) was on Iowa's wish list at one time but they knew his grades were deficient. Could be a nice cushion if Epenesa become a top performer. Special athletes are needed at Iowa.
No he won't if he is ultra explosive. 10-15 might help but nowhere near 35-40.
 
If that is the case, then why has Iowa let a large number of very good players from IWCC move on to other top tier Power 5 Conference Teams? We have some of the best JC FB and BB in the country and neither FM or KF seem very interested in acquiring the talent.
They have an elite WR almost every year and I don't remember us ever offering more than maybe 1 of them.
 
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They have an elite WR almost every year and I don't remember us ever offering more than maybe 1 of them.
If their elite, shouldn't they be going to Minnesota? Seriously, how many of these "ELITE" WR, have gone on to be D1 stars? Easley was a star there, a JC All America, and he was a good player last year, but he's not an elite player.
 
Yeah you kinda fell off on that one. Easily was an all American and while a true hawk and a heck of a teammate "serviceable" is about the best way to describe him.
 
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Yeah you kinda fell off on that one. Easily was an all American and while a true hawk and a heck of a teammate "serviceable" is about the best way to describe him.
What a load of crap. 51 receptions for 510 yards and 4 TDs in the B10 is more than "serviceable", especially in the balanced type of offense that Iowa utilizes. Considering the circumstances - a first year WR with a first year QB under a new OC and new WR coach - Easley clearly exceeded expectations. He led the team in pass receptions by a wide margin.

Also, college football associations (even the NJCAA) don't just hand out All-American awards blindly, Easley was named 1st Team JUCO All-American because he led the nation in pass receptions (72) while at IWCC. I can only hope Iowa finds more serviceable receivers like Nick Easley.
 
If that is the case, then why has Iowa let a large number of very good players from IWCC move on to other top tier Power 5 Conference Teams? We have some of the best JC FB and BB in the country and neither FM or KF seem very interested in acquiring the talent.

Does Iowa have a Junior Colloge recruiting coordinator for football and basketball??? I we don’t why not?
 
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What a load of crap. 51 receptions for 510 yards and 4 TDs in the B10 is more than "serviceable", especially in the balanced type of offense that Iowa utilizes. Considering the circumstances - a first year WR with a first year QB under a new OC and new WR coach - Easley clearly exceeded expectations. He led the team in pass receptions by a wide margin.

Also, college football associations (even the NJCAA) don't just hand out All-American awards blindly, Easley was named 1st Team JUCO All-American because he led the nation in pass receptions (72) while at IWCC. I can only hope Iowa finds more serviceable receivers like Nick Easley.

Nick Easley is a great Hawkeye, with that said I hope our staff gets players with more athletic ability at the WR position. Nick was a safety blanket for a first year qb and earned a scholly by making some plays, he isn't a great B10 reciever.
 
If their elite, shouldn't they be going to Minnesota? Seriously, how many of these "ELITE" WR, have gone on to be D1 stars? Easley was a star there, a JC All America, and he was a good player last year, but he's not an elite player.

Yeah i guess i don't understand the belief that Iowa doesn't pay attention to IWCC or other JUCO's. In just the last year we had Easley obviously and now Daivyon Nixon. Iowa placed Nixon there with the idea to have him come back to Iowa, which is what happened. There are at least 2 LB's from IWCC who are walking on this fall at Iowa. Iowa offered/went after Van Ginkel last year, but he ended up going to Wisconsin to play OLB in the 3-4 (probably a good move for him).

Iowa's path to success isn't by bringing in 5-10 JUCO's in each class. They should continue to do what they have done, offer guys where there is a need and/or work with IWCC to place guys there who Iowa likes but have grades or whatever they need to address.
 
Easley is a good athlete but does not have elite speed. He can't stretch the field on a consistent basis. More than serviceable though,fifty two catches proves he's a good player. I think he deserves a little more respect than some are giving him.

Exactly. Finishes conference 19th in receiving yards and 12th in receptions. Not too shabby for a guy who was a walk on for a team in dire need for production from WR position. Out played 5th year SR Vandeburg too.
 
Easley is a good athlete but does not have elite speed. He can't stretch the field on a consistent basis. More than serviceable though,fifty two catches proves he's a good player. I think he deserves a little more respect than some are giving him.
Believe, I meant no disrespect to Nick Easley. As I said he was a good player in the BIG last year and had a solid year. Just refuteing the posters claim that IWCC was producing elite WR's every year. iowa has also brought in Daffney and another WR I believe and Easley is the only one who even saw the field.
 
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Exactly. Finishes conference 19th in receiving yards and 12th in receptions. Not too shabby for a guy who was a walk on for a team in dire need for production from WR position. Out played 5th year SR Vandeburg too.
Vandy really didn't look 100% last year, and he obviously did not have the groove with Stanley that he had with CJ, because he missed all of the off season work. Stanley got most of his work in with Easley, Fant, and Hock, and it showed during the season.
 
Nick Easley is a great Hawkeye, with that said I hope our staff gets players with more athletic ability at the WR position. Nick was a safety blanket for a first year qb and earned a scholly by making some plays, he isn't a great B10 reciever.

I look forward to revisiting this statement on Nick’s athleticism when his pro day numbers are announced next spring.
 
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McCarron sure surprised a lot of folks with his pro day numbers too. Hope Easley can do the same.

Barring any sort of setback, it should be a similar situation to that. Even last winter, Nick tested almost identical to Riley’s pro day numbers* while being ~2 inches taller and ~15-20 pounds heavier.

*Iowa does not usually test 40 yard dash in offseason training, so that’s a question mark. Otherwise nearly identical.
 
Exactly. Finishes conference 19th in receiving yards and 12th in receptions. Not too shabby for a guy who was a walk on for a team in dire need for production from WR position. Out played 5th year SR Vandeburg too.
Easley would have likely been top 10, maybe top 5, if he played at Indiana, or Purdue, or Northwestern, or any other team which attempts around 150 or more passes than Iowa.

Iowa is typically in the middle to bottom third of B10 teams in pass attempts. I believe the Hawks were 7th or 8th in pass attempts last year. In 2016, Iowa finished dead last (14th) in pass attempts.
 
No, no its not. You are talking out of your arse.

I would be lying to you if I told you I paid attention every waking moment in English class, however, as I look at the definition of "serviceable" that is Nick Easley to the T. Maybe you would care to provide what you feel is a more accurate adjective?

https://www.google.com/search?q=dif...droid-verizon&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Again, he is a great hawk and doing your job without flair is one step up compared to what we had in '16, which was an inability to do the job.
 
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I get that it is not fun or pleasurable to think of the "best" player from one position group as "serviceable" but that is the very definition that describes him. Some people might use the phrase "blue collar", again while a massive upgrade over what we had the year prior, those are not phrases associated with top end receiving cores.
 
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I would be lying to you if I told you I paid attention every waking moment in English class, however, as I look at the definition of "serviceable" that is Nick Easley to the T. Maybe you would care to provide what you feel is a more accurate adjective?

https://www.google.com/search?q=dif...droid-verizon&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Again, he is a great hawk and doing your job without flair is one step up compared to what we had in '16, which was an inability to do the job.


Okay, so you told us what the word “serviceable” means. You have yet to tell us how Nick Easley is only “serviceable”

Kevonte Martin-Manley’s best season: 52 receptions, 571 yards, 2 touchdowns

Tevaun Smith’s best season: 43 receptions, 596 yards, 3 touchdowns

Riley McCarron’s best season (who made $10,000 a week this fall on the Patriots practice squad): 42 receptions, 517 yards, 4 touchdowns

Nick Easley’s first season: 51 receptions, 530 yards, 4 touchdowns

I don’t understand why it’s so difficult for people to just say he’s a good wide receiver.
 
I get that it is not fun or pleasurable to think of the "best" player from one position group as "serviceable" but that is the very definition that describes him. Some people might use the phrase "blue collar", again while a massive upgrade over what we had the year prior, those are not phrases associated with top end receiving cores.

You’re just repeating labels people like to attach shorter white wide receivers and using them to claim he’s not very good.
 
You can be serivicable and be "good" read the definition. This isn't me putting a made up word on a kid there is an actual definition. I refuse to bring the race aspect into this the kid does his job without much fanfare... that by definition, is servicable. I'm not taking someone else's words, I am using the word in the English language that I feel most accurately describes him.
 
I would label every single player you listed as "serviceable" and would contest you would have to go back some time (probably DJK) to find a Iowa WR who (A) did there job and (B) did it with such moxie or flair as to get past serviceable and into what I would label "dynamic".

For those of you so offended what word would you use?
 
You can be serivicable and be "good" read the definition. This isn't me putting a made up word on a kid there is an actual definition. I refuse to bring the race aspect into this the kid does his job without much fanfare... that by definition, is servicable. I'm not taking someone else's words, I am using the word in the English language that I feel most accurately describes him.

I would label every single player you listed as "serviceable" and would contest you would have to go back some time (probably DJK) to find a Iowa WR who (A) did there job and (B) did it with such moxie or flair as to get past serviceable and into what I would label "dynamic".

For those of you so offended what word would you use?

Lol at this point I’m forced to assume that you are, in fact, drunk and trolling. Good lord.
 
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It is a synonym and would take you 3 clicks from the link I provided under the synonyms block to find the word "good."
What proof do you want me to show you? Let's go with his very first touchdown? Something like 40 yards.... a "good" play. If he wasn't "good" (read serviceable) he would not have gotten open. He isn't running away from his defender "great" and doesn't do anything overly athletic to get into the end zone he just put his head down and was strong enough to get in. "Able to do the task" at this level. Go ahead fellas defend him and say he is great.... and then name 2 we groups in the big 10 he would be the starting on... I will wait. The guy is a great Hawkeye. He is a "good" D1 wide receiver (read:able to do the job at this level)
 
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