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Again, it not fun to pick on our guys but to put some perspective into it, it is very common knowledge I am a huge B. Smith fan. He dropped as many or close to as many balls as he caught this year (4) I would argue he needs to up his game to be a "serviceable" x receiver for us in the b10.
 
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I would label every single player you listed as "serviceable" and would contest you would have to go back some time (probably DJK) to find a Iowa WR who (A) did there job and (B) did it with such moxie or flair as to get past serviceable and into what I would label "dynamic".

For those of you so offended what word would you use?

I would say Tevaun Smith would be next in line to get that “explosive” label.. fact is we just over the years have not had even close to what would be called an explosive game changer type at WR... I’m not quite sure why everyone has decided to challenge you on that.. it’s the truth.. I hope this recent batch Iowa has one though.
 
It is a synonym and would take you 3 clicks from the link I provided under the synonyms block to find the word "good."
What proof do you want me to show you? Let's go with his very first touchdown? Something like 40 yards.... a "good" play. If he wasn't "good" (read serviceable) he would not have gotten open. He isn't running away from his defender "great" and doesn't do anything overly athletic to get into the end zone he just put his head down and was strong enough to get in. "Able to do the task" at this level. Go ahead fellas defend him and say he is great.... and then name 2 we groups in the big 10 he would be the starting on... I will wait. The guy is a great Hawkeye. He is a "good" D1 wide receiver (read:able to do the job at this level)

It is knee-slapping hilarious that you chose a play that was named BTN #1 play of opening weekend in a game where the player in question graded out high enough to be on Pro Football Focus All-Big 10 team of the week, as a means of telling us how that player isn’t anything more than “serviceable”

Your best “proof” is characterizing a really impressive play to make it sound routine. That isn’t proof at all.

The kid beat his defender off the line from the gun with a great release and created separation. The ball was slightly overthrown, he made a “great” ;) adjustment and lunge to catch the ball on his fingertips, catch his balance, and drag his defender 4 yards and break free with enough presence of mind to leap across the goal line before the next closing in defender could reach him.

As for your other “proof”, that “good” is a perfectly matched synonym for serviceable, I’ve expanded the synonyms in your link as far as they’ll go. It’s not there.

But by the time you’re living and dying on the semantics of the word “good” to win an argument, you’ve already lost.

I’ll put it like this for you since you’re so hung up on my word. I think Nick Easley is a better player than you think he is.

Again, it not fun to pick on our guys but to put some perspective into it, it is very common knowledge I am a huge B. Smith fan. He dropped as many or close to as many balls as he caught this year (4) I would argue he needs to up his game to be a "serviceable" x receiver for us in the b10.

A “huge” fan of a player who caught 3 balls for 15 yards spending his time diminishing a player who caught 50+ for 500+ in the same season. Sounds about right.
 
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It is knee-slapping hilarious that you chose a play that was named BTN #1 play of opening weekend in a game where the player in question graded out high enough to be on Pro Football Focus All-Big 10 team of the week, as a means of telling us how that player isn’t anything more than “serviceable” (I'm passive aggressive and this post is here to throw a tantrum)

Your FIRST EXAMPLE OF “proof” is characterizing a really impressive play to make it sound routine. That isn’t proof at all. IT WAS VERY ROUTINE FOR A D1 WR.

The kid beat his defender off the line from the gun with a great release and created separation. (The job of a D1 wide receiver who is starting on the field )The ball was slightly overthrown, he made a “great” ;) adjustment and lunge to catch the ball on his fingertips, catch his balance, and drag his defender 4 yards and break free with enough presence of mind to leap across the goal line before the next closing in defender could reach him. (TO BE FAIR ITS PROBABLY BECAUSE HE DID MAKE DECWNT PLAY THAT I THOUGHT OF THIS BUT A D1 WR IS GOING TO SCORE TOUCHDOWNS)

As for your other “proof”, that “good” is a perfectly matched synonym for serviceable, I’ve expanded the synonyms in your link as far as they’ll go. It’s not there.( I DONT KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU OTHER THEN YOUR NOT GOOD AT INTERNETS #SEARCHWIZARD)

But by the time you’re living and dying on the semantics of the word “good” to win an argument, you’ve already lost. (THATS YOU YA CHODE)

I’ll put it like this for you since you’re so hung up on my word. I think Nick Easley is a better player than you think he is. (OK, EVEN IF HE IS AS GOOD AS YOU THINK HE ISNT A DYNAMIC D1 WR)



A “huge” fan of a player who caught 3 balls for 15 yards spending his time diminishing a player who caught 50+ for 500+ in the same season. Sounds about right.


Fify

O yea, I am a fan of Brandon because he is from a part of the country I would like us to recruit better and I just have liked the way he carries himself. I'm not diminishing $hit I'm calling a spade a spade.
 
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O yea, I am a fan of Brandon because he is from a part of the country I would like us to recruit better and I just have liked the way he carries himself. I'm not diminishing $hit I'm calling a spade a spade.

Ignoring the synonym detail and professing fandom based on where he is from and how he carries himself. No credibility issues here.
 
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O yea, I am a fan of Brandon because he is from a part of the country I would like us to recruit better and I just have liked the way he carries himself. I'm not diminishing $hit I'm calling a spade a spade.


Just the fact that I got you to call someone a chode in all caps on the internet is all I need to know about the level you’re operating on.
 
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Wait...you hassling me about "good" DEFINITELY being a direct synonym of "serviceable", was based on "good" being a SYNONYM of a SYNONYM of serviceable?!

I'm not even mad. Great troll.

Welcome to the boards. If you think your smug for being an antagonist you will fit in well.

I'm sorry you were antagonized by someone saying a good player is good.
 
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It does not mean the same as “serviceable”, dude, a word that you have yet to justify using based on any actual statistics or characteristics of Nick’s play. But that’s because you have none, and you’re talking out of your ass.
What a load of crap. 51 receptions for 510 yards and 4 TDs in the B10 is more than "serviceable", especially in the balanced type of offense that Iowa utilizes. Considering the circumstances - a first year WR with a first year QB under a new OC and new WR coach - Easley clearly exceeded expectations. He led the team in pass receptions by a wide margin.

Also, college football associations (even the NJCAA) don't just hand out All-American awards blindly, Easley was named 1st Team JUCO All-American because he led the nation in pass receptions (72) while at IWCC. I can only hope Iowa finds more serviceable receivers like Nick Easley.

Stats. N.E. was 19th in receiving yards in a league of 14 teams, Every team is going to have a #1 WR. Of that 18 that were ahead ,15 were WR(again 14 team league #1 WRs) 2 TE, and a running back, A running back had more recieving yards than the guy you are trying to move past "serviceable". He had 4 TDs, of the list of 40 top receiving yards, there are 20 who have more TD's. In a 14 team league. SERVICEABLE.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/conferences/statistics/player/_/stat/receiving/id/5
 
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Wait...you hassling me about "good" DEFINITELY being a direct synonym of "serviceable", was based on "good" being a SYNONYM of a SYNONYM of serviceable?!

I'm not even mad. Great troll.



I'm sorry you were antagonized by someone saying a good player is good.

He is good. You were trying to say he is more.
 
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Stats. N.E. was 19th in receiving yards in a league of 14 teams, Every team is going to have a #1 WR. Of that 18 that were ahead ,15 were WR(again 14 team league #1 WRs) 2 TE, and a running back, A running back had more recieving yards than the guy you are trying to move past "serviceable". He had 4 TDs, of the list of 40 top receiving yards, there are 20 who have more TD's. In a 14 team league. SERVICEABLE.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/conferences/statistics/player/_/stat/receiving/id/5

This also yells me Noah Fant needs to Get the Ball more and catch more passes..
 
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This also yells me Noah Fant needs to Get the Ball more and catch more passes..

Brandon Smith is 6-3ish and a high jump champion with xxxL hands. I will never claim to be a smart man, but doesn't that seem like a huge jump ball asset in the EZ? I have said many times when the s hit the fan N.S. looked for Easley, when it went too S in the red zone, he looked for Fant.
 
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Stats. N.E. was 19th in receiving yards in a league of 14 teams, Every team is going to have a #1 WR. Of that 18 that were ahead ,15 were WR(again 14 team league #1 WRs) 2 TE, and a running back, A running back had more recieving yards than the guy you are trying to move past "serviceable". He had 4 TDs, of the list of 40 top receiving yards, there are 20 who have more TD's. In a 14 team league. SERVICEABLE.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/conferences/statistics/player/_/stat/receiving/id/5

That running back, Saquon Barkley, is a generational, top 10 NFL draft offensive talent on a team that threw 103 more times than Iowa did.

Mike Gesicki is a projected 2nd round draft pick

Troy Fumagalli is a projected 4th round draft pick and the only Wisconsin pass catcher with more yards than Easley.

Stats. Of the remaining teams with purely wide receivers with more receiving yards than Nick Easley:

Penn State: 2 receivers. Threw 103 more times than Iowa.
Nebraska: 3 receivers. Threw 104 more times than Iowa.
Ohio State: 2 receivers (by a combined 73 yards): Threw 85 more times than Iowa
Maryland: 2 receivers. Threw 37 less times than Iowa
Indiana: 2 receivers. Threw 147 more times than Iowa
Northwestern: 1 receiver. Threw 106 more times than Iowa.
Minnesota: 1 receiver. Threw 122 less times than Iowa.
Purdue: 1 receiver. Threw 136 more times than Iowa.
Michigan State: 1 receiver. Threw 69 more times than Iowa.

Nick had more receiving yards than any pure receiver from Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Rutgers.



He is good. You were trying to say he is more.

In the first post you told me I was trying to move him past serviceable by saying he was good. Here you're telling me he's good. Are you moving him past serviceable?
 
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Brandon Smith is 6-3ish and a high jump champion with xxxL hands. I will never claim to be a smart man, but doesn't that seem like a huge jump ball asset in the EZ? I have said many times when the s hit the fan N.S. looked for Easley, when it went too S in the red zone, he looked for Fant.

Oh yeah BS has got a nice set of tools and that’s no BS. He took his lumps last year as a freshman dropped balls and didn’t get many thrown his way.. it’s show time gotta put some hustle behind that muscle.. it’s one thing to have all the tools it’s another to put them to use.. I’m pulling for him. He’s out there looking like a mix between David Boston and Devin Funchess with long hair now he just needs to catch the ball.
 
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That running back, Saquon Barkley, is a generational, top 10 NFL draft offensive talent on a team that threw 103 more times than Iowa did.

Mike Gesicki is a projected 2nd round draft pick

Troy Fumagalli is a projected 4th round draft pick and the only Wisconsin pass catcher with more yards than Easley.

Stats. Of the remaining teams with purely wide receivers with more receiving yards than Nick Easley:

Penn State: 2 receivers. Threw 103 more times than Iowa.
Nebraska: 3 receivers. Threw 104 more times than Iowa.
Ohio State: 2 receivers (by a combined 73 yards): Threw 85 more times than Iowa
Maryland: 2 receivers. Threw 37 less times than Iowa
Indiana: 2 receivers. Threw 147 more times than Iowa
Northwestern: 1 receiver. Threw 106 more times than Iowa.
Minnesota: 1 receiver. Threw 122 less times than Iowa.
Purdue: 1 receiver. Threw 136 more times than Iowa.
Michigan State: 1 receiver. Threw 69 more times than Iowa.

Nick had more receiving yards than any pure receiver from Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Rutgers.





In the first post you told me I was trying to move him past serviceable by saying he was good. Here you're telling me he's good. Are you moving him past serviceable?

Excuses are like a$$holes, everybody has one. Everything down too "Nick had more receiving yards than any pure receiver from Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Rutgers." Is complete baby Sugar and what's "pure". He was Iowa's #1 WR and in a league of 14 he finished #19 and worst than #20 in the 2 stats that matter.
 
Excuses are like a$$holes, everybody has one. Everything down too "Nick had more receiving yards than any pure receiver from Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Rutgers." Is complete baby Sugar and what's "pure". He was Iowa's #1 WR and in a league of 14 he finished #19 and worst than #20 in the 2 stats that matter.

Excuses? Teams who throw the ball 69-147 more times than Iowa will have receivers who have more yards and touchdowns. Do you understand? Can you figure that out?

I’m sorry those numbers are so hard for you to put meaning behind.

What’s “pure”? Well, that would be any receiver who isn’t a tight end or a running back. Do you understand?

I can tell how badly you want to deem a player on the team you claim to root for as “not good” but you can’t just disregard legitimate information as “excuses”.
 
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Barring any sort of setback, it should be a similar situation to that. Even last winter, Nick tested almost identical to Riley’s pro day numbers* while being ~2 inches taller and ~15-20 pounds heavier.

*Iowa does not usually test 40 yard dash in offseason training, so that’s a question mark. Otherwise nearly identical.
Well your last part is just plain false.
 
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Just the fact that I got you to call someone a chode in all caps on the internet is all I need to know about the level you’re operating on.
The fact that you think any receiver for iowa, besides fant, was more than serviceable is laughable and shows you're clueless.
 
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If Nick stays in the slot he should be able to put up those numbers again. If he moves out side and there is no reason he should like MVB had to his numbers would go way down. Because he would matched up on cb’s and not draw LBs like he did this year. I’d like to see nick get pushed at the slot position, he did a good job catching the ball but if he had game break speed his numbers would have been even more to take notice of. Hopefully Tracy Jr or maybe M Cooper can get some good opportunity there as well and break some big plays. If there is no one that can do that we know what we have in Nick E. to be honest I’d like to see every WR get pushed it needs to get better!
 
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He is good. You were trying to say he is more.
It is fairly obvious that your initial comment labeling Easley as "serviceable" was an indication that you believe he is a relatively untalented wide receiver. Fact is, his stats prove he had an outstanding season in his first year at Iowa.- beyond "serviceable". Serviceable WRs do not earn All-American honors.

It is also pretty clear that since your original comment, you have been working OT to fit Easley into the "serviceable" category and trying mightily to requalify your label as a compliment. Save the Oxford dictionary definitions, everyone knows that labeling an athlete as serviceable is equivalent to designating that player as something akin to "barely adequate". Stop digging.
 
O he won d1 All American honor? Which one? In a twelve team league he was the #14 receiver that is....serviceable. Every team has a #1 WR somone is going to be near the top. A running back had more rwcieving yards than a #1 reciever, sure his last name was Barkley, you want to talk about SB's rushing yards?


FWIW you might want to go easy on guessing my agenda, I'm hardcore A.D.H.D, I dont know my agenda most of the time and you know what they say about assuming....

Again, he is by definition, a serviceable D1 B10 reciever.
 
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O he won d1 All American honor? Which one? In a twelve team league he was the #14 receiver that is....serviceable. Every team has a #1 WR somone is going to be near the top. A running back had more rwcieving yards than a #1 reciever, sure his last name was Barkley, you want to talk about SB's rushing yards?


FWIW you might want to go easy on guessing my agenda, I'm hardcore A.D.H.D, I dont know my agenda most of the time and you know what they say about assuming....

Again, he is by definition, a serviceable D1 B10 reciever.
Bottom line is the guy wasn't even offered a scholarship we got lucky. He's good at his role yes but teams don't worry about him getting his 6 or 7 catches underneath for 56 yards. These Bower lovers on this board just don't get it. Easley is a good slot receiver who does nothing to stretch the field on the outside like Hill, Brown, Solomon, Mcnutt, DJK, Smith or even underutilized Davis.
 
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This is what you edited your original message to? And it took you 5 mins of thinking to come up with it? LOL, you must be very smart. 5 mins of thinking for 3 words, haha

Please stop owning me online, Marv. I’m begging you. I have a family.
 
They have an elite WR almost every year and I don't remember us ever offering more than maybe 1 of them.
Believe, I meant no disrespect to Nick Easley. As I said he was a good player in the BIG last year and had a solid year. Just refuteing the posters claim that IWCC was producing elite WR's every year. iowa has also brought in Daffney and another WR I believe and Easley is the only one who even saw the field.
3 WRs that played at IW in the last 5 seasons have gone to the league. Two are still there and one now in the CFL. Have another receiver still at TCU I think.
 
in the military a serviceable weapon is considered a good weapon , I understand totally where wddt is coming from . Civilians for some reason think the word serviceable is a knock
 
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