Jack Ruby's ex, says they he had no choice but to kill Oswald.

[Aegon_Targaryen]

“He had no choice,” Raven said. When I asked her to explain why he “had no choice,” she replied only, “Jack had bosses, just like everyone else.”

Raven says she believes “he was instructed on what he needed to do, therefore he did it. And when the opportunity presented itself he went ahead and took it.”


http://jfkfacts.org/assassination/news/ex-flame-says-jack-ruby-had-no-choice-but-to-kill-oswald/

 

[TexMichFan]

How do you know Raven's boss did not tell her to make up the story?

 

[TJ8869]

Awesome. The greatest mystery in American history and a stripper named Raven cracked the case.

 

[aflachawk]

Awesome. The greatest mystery in American history and a stripper named Raven cracked the case.

LMFAO

 

[strummingram]

Awesome. The greatest mystery in American history and a stripper named Raven cracked the case.

So, if she had been a journalist for the Washington Post, then it would be true. Being a stripper makes her totally full of sh*t and absolutely not credible? You can't always have a Woodward and Bernstein come to your rescue. The "good guys" are not always wearing police uniforms or punching a time clock for some well known "news source."

 

[TexMichFan]

So, if she had been a journalist for the Washington Post, then it would be true. Being a stripper makes her totally full of sh*t and absolutely not credible? You can't always have a Woodward and Bernstein come to your rescue. The "good guys" are not always wearing police uniforms or punching a time clock for some well known "news source."

It would be best if she was a journalist for the Washington Post and a stripper. This would cover the most ground if not exactly the most skin.

 

[ANYCHawk]

So, if she had been a journalist for the Washington Post, then it would be true. Being a stripper makes her totally full of sh*t and absolutely not credible? "

Pretty much, yeah.

 

[Lone Clone]

She doesn't even pretend to have any real information. I do not understand why even the most wacko conspiracy theorist would think this statement is significant.

I will give her props for one thing: She says she didn't think Ruby went to the cop shop with the intention of shooting Oswald, and the evidence is overwhelming that she is correct.

 

[strummingram]

Pretty much, yeah.

That's why you're pretty much a hopeless person. I can show you just as much corruption in a "journalist's" past as you can any stripper. Journalists make their living embellishing, lying, infringing upon people and a host of other unsavory traits. Strippers are taking it off whether you pay or not!

Don't ever wind up on a jury, please!

 

[ANYCHawk]

That's why you're pretty much a hopeless person. I can show you just as much corruption in a "journalist's" past as you can any stripper. Journalists make their living embellishing, lying, infringing upon people and a host of other unsavory traits. Strippers are taking it off whether you pay or not!

Don't ever wind up on a jury, please!

OK. I sit in court everyday. The next time someone puts on a stripper as a character witness will be the first.And a jury thinks the same way too. Sorry to break it to you but stripper = bad.

As a journalist I've never once embellished, lied or infringed on a person. So now you're just making s*it up. And journalist v stripper is irrelevant. That's not the case as TJ mentioned. He said a stripper broke open the case of the biggest mystery in american history. Given the fact its a less then desirable position that's a reasonable opinion to take.

You used to be reasonable. But, you've gone off the deep end in the last year.

 

[ANYCHawk]

She doesn't even pretend to have any real information. I do not understand why even the most wacko conspiracy theorist would think this statement is significant.

Aw crap, I agree with Lone...time to end thyself.

 

[Run&Blade]

Money grab on talk show Circuit?

Ruby was a wanna be cop.

 

[strummingram]

OK. I sit in court everyday. The next time someone puts on a stripper as a character witness will be the first.And a jury thinks the same way too. Sorry to break it to you but stripper = bad.

As a journalist I've never once embellished, lied or infringed on a person. So now you're just making s*it up. And journalist v stripper is irrelevant. That's not the case as TJ mentioned. He said a stripper broke open the case of the biggest mystery in american history. Given the fact its a less then desirable position that's a reasonable opinion to take.

You used to be reasonable. But, you've gone off the deep end in the last year.

The preceding is a total load of sh*t.

As a journalist, I wouldn't believe you if you told me water was wet. You're not far from politician. If you've never embellished then you're not a journalist.

You're a journalist in court every day? You have a lot of time to post on here throughout the day, every day. Your journalism must be a real challenge. Your court presence, journalism, HROT participation, what else are you managing to squeeze-in?

I never said that strippers= saints. I merely said that just because they are strippers, or hookers, or whatever else, doesn't mean they're lying. If your source must be a person in government, law enforcement, media, clergy or some other "noble" profession in order for it to have actually happened, then my condolences.

 

[Aegon_Targaryen]

Money grab on talk show Circuit?

Ruby was a wanna be cop.

A wannabe cop who didn't understand that murder on live television resulted in conviction?

Think logically, why would anyone do this? Oswald killed a President in Texas of all places, he was dying for sure for it. So why go to prison for absolutely no reason?

As in, why would Ruby throw his life away, for absolutely no good reason?

Also, good thing he just so happened to die of cancer. Only years later.

Only a moron, you, would understand these events and not see that something was off.

 

[Aegon_Targaryen]

Money grab on talk show Circuit?

Ruby was a wanna be cop.

How do you grab money in prison?

 

[Aegon_Targaryen]

She doesn't even pretend to have any real information. I do not understand why even the most wacko conspiracy theorist would think this statement is significant.

I will give her props for one thing: She says she didn't think Ruby went to the cop shop with the intention of shooting Oswald, and the evidence is overwhelming that she is correct.

OK. I sit in court everyday. The next time someone puts on a stripper as a character witness will be the first.And a jury thinks the same way too. Sorry to break it to you but stripper = bad.

As a journalist I've never once embellished, lied or infringed on a person. So now you're just making s*it up. And journalist v stripper is irrelevant. That's not the case as TJ mentioned. He said a stripper broke open the case of the biggest mystery in american history. Given the fact its a less then desirable position that's a reasonable opinion to take.

You used to be reasonable. But, you've gone off the deep end in the last year.

And yet nothing you've typed here has absolutely any concrete backing behind it.
Worthless post is worthless.

 

[Aegon_Targaryen]

How do you know Raven's boss did not tell her to make up the story?

Awesome. The greatest mystery in American history and a stripper named Raven cracked the case.

Common sense cracked it years ago. Unfortunately the stupidity of Americans such as yourself kept it from being 'official'.
There were more than just a few who tried to prove it to Americans. They were ignored because Americans are mostly morons. Such as yourself, and such as most on here.
Let's put it this way, most Americans think that their vote counts, lol,...... it doesn't. Ask a common American what an electoral means, and they likely have no idea.
Americans are idiots, they are ignorant, stupid and most of all convinced that they are not either of these things.

 

[TJ8869]

How do you grab money in prison?

I think he was referring to the stripper.

 

[TexMichFan]

Common sense cracked it years ago. Unfortunately the stupidity of Americans such as yourself kept it from being 'official'.
There were more than just a few who tried to prove it to Americans. They were ignored because Americans are mostly morons. Such as yourself, and such as most on here.
Let's put it this way, most Americans think that their vote counts, lol,...... it doesn't. Ask a common American what an electoral means, and they likely have no idea.
Americans are idiots, they are ignorant, stupid and most of all convinced that they are not either of these things.

Well I guess your post settles it - anything other than what you believe is based on stupidity, ignorance, or morons.

It has to be the way you want it to be it just has to be - their no way you could be wrong or mistaken even a little. Makes me wonder if perhaps you were there on the grassy knoll.

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

Or a slightly crazy guy got some idea in his head that he would be a hero if he killed the man who killed the president.

 

[Aegon_Targaryen]

Or a slightly crazy guy got some idea in his head that he would be a hero if he killed the man who killed the president.

Yeah that makes a lot of sense. He could have got himself killed doing it.

 

[Lone Clone]

A wannabe cop who didn't understand that murder on live television resulted in conviction?

Think logically, why would anyone do this? Oswald killed a President in Texas of all places, he was dying for sure for it. So why go to prison for absolutely no reason?

As in, why would Ruby throw his life away, for absolutely no good reason?

Also, good thing he just so happened to die of cancer. Only years later.

Only a moron, you, would understand these events and not see that something was off.

Ruby thought he was being a hero. His first words after he was grabbed were "I screwed up, didn't I?"

It was just by a series of coincidences that he was there when the opportunity to shoot Oswald arose. He had been at a telegraph office nearby, wiring money to a stripper who had worked for him and was in a jam. He knew LHO was going to be transferred sometime that day, and he walked to the cop shop to see what was happening. He was a cop jock-sniffer, hung around with them a lot, knew a lot of them. Ruby said two cops in a prowl car were just leaving the entrance to the garage when he arrived. He went in, walked through to the extit, got there just as Oswald was being brought down, pulled out a gun and shot him. Spur of the moment.

I had a chance to talk with Jim Leavelle, the cop in the white Stetson who was handcuffed to LHO when he was shot. Leavelle later checked out Ruby's story by going to telegraph office, checking the time stamp on the money order, and timing the walk to the police department. He also confirmed that the two cops Ruby had said he saw as he entered were on duty there that day. The exit was heavily guarded, but the entrance was not. There's no way in hell it could have been planned.

Leavelle today is very critical of the whole transfer operation, both the lack of security and the fact that although the exact time it would happen wasn't known, authorities announced it would be done that day sometime. Leavelle says they should have just snuck LHO out of the place and announce the transfer had been completed.

Leavelle is one fascinating dude. He was in the Navy at Pearl Harbor when it was bombed. After the JFK assassination, he became friends with Marina. He can shoot down pretty much all of the more popular conspiracy theories about the shooting, the ones with which he was personally involved or acquainted.

 

[TankHawk]

Pic of stripper in her prime?

 

[TexMichFan]

This is what another one of Ruby's strippers had to say about him shooting Oswald.

Nancy Myers teases with the telling, takes them back to Jack Ruby and his Carousel Club, where she took it off more than once upon a time.

Dolled up in a sequined, hot pink and green leopard-print top, she talks about her life and work, recalls those nightly revelations, the splits and squats.

“I’d do ’em now for you, but I wouldn’t be able to get up,” she cracks to another roar.

A half century ago, she was Ruby’s Tammi True, his Miss Excitement, a headline stripper at his downtown Dallas scene.

And last July at Oak Cliff’s Texas Theatre, the 75-year-old great-great-grandmother was on a comeback roll.

From a back-row seat, she watched a private unveiling of True Tales, a movie blending her early years, the tragedy of Nov. 22, 1963, and her boss’s killing of Lee Harvey Oswald.

With the lights up and applause building, she stepped onto the theater stage to keep the stories going. And to talk about her two years of moviemaking: “It’s been a pain” in the derrière, as she sort of put it.

On screen, a raspy-voiced, big-haired Myers narrates the retrospective, premiering Wednesday at Dallas VideoFest, just in time for the Kennedy assassination’s 50th anniversary.

The 72-minute creation of Dallas-based AMS Pictures opens with breaking-news reports of the president’s death and Oswald’s arrest, peppered with the star’s come-ons:

“You never know what someone is capable of doing, even the people closest to you. … Oh, I know things, but I’ve kept them a secret for 50 years. … I know why Jack did what he did. And I’ve decided that I need to tell my side of the story.”

‘He was distraught’

Her story doesn’t embrace conspiracies, deliver an exposé. If there was a plot to kill the president, “no way” Ruby was involved, she says.

“He was distraught, and he had the opportunity,” she said of Oswald’s shooting, while flipping through photographs and newspaper clippings at her Grand Prairie home. Her boss was downtown near the police station that Sunday morning, wiring $25 to a dancer. Minutes afterward, he joined the crowd awaiting Oswald’s transfer to the county jail and shot him with a .38-caliber Colt.

 

[Run&Blade]

Been years but history channel had a show on ruby. He hung around the police station constantly long before Oswald even thought about killing Kennedy. He also was a Kennedy fanatic. He thought he would be some hero by doing what he did.

If it was a conspiracy and all the loose ends happened to be eliminated by powerful forces I find it hard to believe they woul let this stripper live.

 

[Aegon_Targaryen]

Been years but history channel had a show on ruby. He hung around the police station constantly long before Oswald even thought about killing Kennedy. He also was a Kennedy fanatic. He thought he would be some hero by doing what he did.

If it was a conspiracy and all the loose ends happened to be eliminated by powerful forces I find it hard to believe they woul let this stripper live.

The other side of that coin showed him as not liking the Kennedy family, particularly having a disdain for RFK.