Joe doesn’t support independence for Taiwan.
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Sounds like they want status quo. Seems like a solid diplomatic stance. Don’t pretend like we won’t back them if China invades.
Not sure what OPs point is. It’s been US policy for 70 years to support Taiwan but stopping short of official recognition because of the impact that would have on China and geopolitics in Southeast Asia.
If Biden came out and said we fully support Taiwan independence, OP would be equally outraged.
Chinas investment in the penn biden center getting some returns.
Joe wanting things to stay the same there = bad, must post about it.
Joe wanting a blueberry muffin for breakfast = bad because of his above stance on Taiwan, must post about it.
Joe wanting to watch the Iowa game tomorrow night = bad because of his above stances on Taiwan and blueberry muffins, must post about it.
This is prime time for China to invade and let the SHTF...
Wars all over the place, an American president who should be in a memory care center, and now an earthquake?
Wars all over the place, an American president who should be in a memory care center, and now an earthquake?
I appreciate Joe’s talent to identify good ice cream, daily naps, and his ability to get 10%
Yes, cuz China has notably changed its rhetoric regarding the status of Taiwan....
OP wants freedom for Taiwan even though the U.S. has recognized one China for decades - because Biden doesn’t.
OP doesn’t want freedom for Ukraine - because Biden does.
OP doesn’t want freedom for Ukraine - because Biden does.
You didn’t say shit about One China from 1/20/17 to 1/20/21.
But I can see it’s a big issue with you and not something you decided to use to bitch about Biden today.
I'm surprised you simpletons haven't accused Joe of unleashing an earthquake machine onto Taiwan because Taylor Swift told him to.
Yes the uneducated have reproduced at an alarming rate compared to those who can actually think and reason. No wonder MAGAs are not employable. To many smoke breaks.
I’m beginning to think you’re not a very deep thinker.
De facto independent, yes. Recognized by China? No.
And also, you're wrong - historically, Imperial China long controlled Taiwan, and of course, it's where the Nationalists fled after losing the Chinese Civil War. China has made it very clear that any official recognition by the US or any other major power could result in war.
Since it's not something we really want to fight over, we've tacitly supported Taiwan without officially doing so. Something both parties have done since the Communists took control of the mainland.
Don't be obtuse. You read my post and are deliberately ignoring everything else.
The "one china" policy bacme official in 1979.
We recognized the government in Taiwan before that...
The “One China” policy
So, what was the “One China” policy? It is certainly not the “One China” principle by which Beijing claims that Taiwan is an inalienable part of China. The simplest definition of the “One China” policy of the United States is that it recognized the government of the People’s Republic of China (PRC) as the sole, legitimate government of China in 1979. Still, this is incomplete.Since the spring of 1979 when Congress passed the Taiwan Relations Act, the scope of the “One China” policy has considerably broadened. The act itself was intended to complement the PRC’s recognition with a commitment to a continued “unofficial relationship” with the “people of Taiwan” and an expression of concern regarding threats from China. Provisions for possible support for the island in the event of such an eventuality were also made. Along with the terms of recognition, it outlined a policy to be practiced with respect to both sides of the Taiwan Strait — that is, not only China, but also Taiwan. In other words, it should more properly be called a “cross-Strait policy.”
The most important elements of that policy in regard to China were:
- The recognition of the PRC as the sole legal government of China;
- The “acknowledgment” but not acceptance of the Chinese position that Taiwan is a part of China (Beijing’s “One China” principle);
- The expectation that any solution to cross-Strait differences would be resolved peacefully.
- The termination of the 1954 Mutual Defense Treaty;
- Washington continued to define the status of the island of Taiwan as “undetermined,” with the ruling government not considered to be a sovereign state in the international system;1
- The United States reserved the right to provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or the social or economic system, of the people on Taiwan;
- There was provision for the president and Congress to consult on further action in the event of a threat to Taiwan.
Understanding the One China policy | Brookings
The “One China” policy has been the mantra guiding U.S. policy during the recent periods of high tension in the area.
www.brookings.edu
We need to get our ducks in a row regarding Taiwan,.. Over the next 2-3 years we need to eliminate any and all trade dependence we have there...
I think that’s a large part of Biden’s building “chip factories” here in the USA…
US needs to bring as much manufacturing back home is a lesson Covid taught us..
For one thing, it’s in a strategically vital geopolitical location. Control of it by communist china would enable them to control trade routes between South China Sea and the Philippine Sea. For another, it would be a massive boost to the Chinese economy by gaining control of the island.
We don’t want either.
Mostly Cold War logic, but some have a vested interest in providing TPE Olympic uniforms.
Look where Taiwan is located,.. China WILL control it,.. What we want doesn't really come into play.
Maybe. It’s a question of the price they’re willing to pay to do so. Between the aid we’ve provided until now, and whether or not we’d go to their aid if China ever attempts a military invasion…you’re not wrong that if China wanted it badly enough they could take the island.
But it would not be quick, easy, or cheap. Active US assistance to Taiwanese defenses would make everything that much more expensive to China.
Wait…You literally just agreed with Blinkin saying we agree with China and it’s one China policy and no independence for Taiwan. And now you’re saying you don’t agree with it?
China has let Taiwan pretend to be its own thing because Taiwan hasn’t rocked the boat. Taiwan knows where the line is and creeps up to it but knows it needs to behave overall. Nothing really changes if that line gets straddled by either side.
Glad you see the contradiction - as a matter of official policy USA agrees with One China policy…but we’ve also been supportive of Taiwan as initially the legit government of China (until China won international recognition in the 70s); and have been providing military and economic aid to the island all along.
China initially let Taiwan be because they had no ability to launch an invasion to seize the island by force. They’ve never stopped claiming the island as theirs and raise a major stink everytime someone suggests Taiwan is independent (remember the Houston GM who got canned because of a tweet to that effect?). Of late they’ve been more aggressive in their rhetoric and there’s real concern that a military operation is gradually becoming more likely.
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