Agree, Kingsbury was a volume shooter with NO concience. He's the guy they were talking about with the term "Heat Check"! That guy would pull from anywhere past midcourt. He would also shoot you out of a game when he was off. Lot of fun to watch him play though. Kent Mc shot over 50% from three his senior year, I believe led the nation that year. Great stroke, but obviously not the overall scorer that Jok has developed into. The great thing about Pete's game now is the job he's doing distributing, and on the boards. He must of received some solid advise from the NBA folks after last year. Man I hope he plays in the league. I believe Luel Deng who starred for the Bulls is Pete's cousin, so he's got the bloodlines as well.
Jok..best shooter we will ever see?
- Thread starter Kurt Warner
- Start date
Speaking as one of the "geezers" on the site I would give my vote to Downtown Freddie Brown. In his day there was no three point shot awarded but if that rule had been in place back then DFB would still hold the record for most threes made.
Streaky is being kind.A little trivia, when Olson at Arizona was in a recruiting battle with us for Moses, he called Moses the best pure shooter in high school he'd ever seen. Must have watched him once.James was a streaky guy.
My basketball memory goes back to seeing Freddie Brown play in the Fieldhouse in 1970-71. Can't argue with any of the great shooters mentioned in this thread - they all had something that made them unique. But for that pure anticipatory "ahhhh" moment between the ball leaving the hand and falling through the net, Jok is my choice.
(Admittedly probably biased because I'm comparing the here-and-now to some pretty distant memories.)
Bobby Hansen and Matt Bullard made a lot of money in the NBA off their sweet shooting, but Jok can do things those two never could.
Johnson and Williams didn't have, or didn't need, Jok's range. Johnson's release was quicker than anyone's. It was a flat shot, reverse spin, falling thru the net before a defender could get a hand up. Aesthetically, Brookins' shot was as pleasing as Bok's. Brown also had a great-looking shot. Though about 6-3, he was never blocked because of his jumping ability. The 69-70 season, with Johnson and Brown, was best Iowa team ever. Passing had to be seen to be appreciated.
Last edited:
A
anon_i8nzeu2gbf0ba
Guest
Peter J reminds me, from a pure shooter standpoint, of Downtown Freddie Brown of the 1970 Big Ten champions who averaged over 100 points per game and went 14-0 in conference play. Freddie had a beautiful shot, and he would have been even more awesome had the 3-point shot been available in those days.
So make no mistake: Enjoy watching the rare artistry that is Peter Jok shooting a basketball.
So make no mistake: Enjoy watching the rare artistry that is Peter Jok shooting a basketball.
I would take Jok in any competitive game involving basketball you could come up with.
Bobby Hansen was a great shooter also. I watched some great ones Brown,JJ,Carfino,Vince B.,BJ,Bill Jones,Bullard,Recker, and Kingsbury. Missed many I am sure. But Jok is awesome.
Jok is hands down the best pure shooter I have seen at Iowa.
In my opinion, Chris Kingsbury was the best pure long distance shooter for the Hawks. His shot and release looked thr exact same regardless of where on the court his shot was.
The difference though is that at times he couldnt control his emotions and would let the opponent get into his head.....not necessary hurting his shot, but he would start forcing it and even get a technical on D.
Jok is probably better at keeping his head in the game.
The difference though is that at times he couldnt control his emotions and would let the opponent get into his head.....not necessary hurting his shot, but he would start forcing it and even get a technical on D.
Jok is probably better at keeping his head in the game.
Jok without a doubt has the prettiest shot of any mentioned above. Jeff Moe could get hot, but was a spot up catch and shoot guy. Second prettiest shooter was Brookins, but Johnson and Brown were more consistent and reliable scorers. As someone mentioned, Brookins was streaky.
Kingsbury could shoot, no doubt, but he took some wilda--, ridiculous shots and lost some games because of it. Jok is far more controlled.
Boyle, Carfino, and some of the others mentioned aren't even in the running.
I like the comparison to Glen Rice. Also such a beautiful shot. Maybe the smoothest shot I have seen.
Where the comparison really strikes me though is how the ball goes through the rim.
Those two, Jok and Rice, hit the far side of the rim, wth the ball beneath the rim, essentially acting to drive the ball through the rim, more than any other two shooters I remember, regardless of school. It is something I have marveled in Jok's shot since day one.
That action just puts the punctuation mark on the shot beauty for me.
I said last year I thought Jok was a future NBA All-star, (and got ridiculed here). This year seems to be a further step towards that. His performance this year makes him best all around shooter I have seem at Iowa, and I have seen all those mentioned above. Brown had as much range and a beautiful shot but not this 15 footer or less with people on him that Jok has.
Kingsbury could shoot, no doubt, but he took some wilda--, ridiculous shots and lost some games because of it. Jok is far more controlled.
Boyle, Carfino, and some of the others mentioned aren't even in the running.
I like the comparison to Glen Rice. Also such a beautiful shot. Maybe the smoothest shot I have seen.
Where the comparison really strikes me though is how the ball goes through the rim.
Those two, Jok and Rice, hit the far side of the rim, wth the ball beneath the rim, essentially acting to drive the ball through the rim, more than any other two shooters I remember, regardless of school. It is something I have marveled in Jok's shot since day one.
That action just puts the punctuation mark on the shot beauty for me.
I said last year I thought Jok was a future NBA All-star, (and got ridiculed here). This year seems to be a further step towards that. His performance this year makes him best all around shooter I have seem at Iowa, and I have seen all those mentioned above. Brown had as much range and a beautiful shot but not this 15 footer or less with people on him that Jok has.
I'd like for Jok's college career to go as far in the tourney as Glen Rice's did.
NBA Allstar? That might be a stretch. Kyle Korver was a better shooter in college than Jok had been....and he has carved up a nice career in the NBA. In other words if you can rake it from 3, you have a spot.
He pretty much carried Michigan to that Championship as an outside shooter. He was unbelievable in that tourney and with that shot.
I wish the young guys on this team were one year older and experienced with this year's Jok. In that scenario your desire had potential to be fulfilled.
Jok is smoother and more athletic than Korver, but Korver has proven it as a Pro. Admittedly, my comments on Jok are still projections. However, At the same stage, I would take Jok over Korver though.
Has a Doug McDermott look right now even a Buddy Hield comparison would be in line
Jok is good, but on one team I think there might have been 3 players who could shoot as well. JJ, The Stick and Downtown could all light it up. They averaged over 100 points a game and in most games they only played 6 guys, thus the nick name of the six pack.
you may as well add Glenn Vidnovic to the arsenal that team possessed.
Gaten's senior year, the 12 straight threes between Indiana and Wisconsin games - that was the most amazing shooting (for Iowa) I've seen in my life. I saw KM put us on his back @Kansas and vs Arkansas in the tourney. Those were impressive performances. But I get an endorphin rush just from watching the ball come of Pete's hand. The kids shot is so fluid and so smooth - it's like candy for the brain when you see him shoot.
I agree about one of the best ever but as far as replacing him not so much. The reason I say that is this year's team. Talk about replacing people? FM will figure that out
If you haven't seen Brown, you cannot make the claim Jok is the best ever. Heck....for all I know Murray Weir was the best ever, but I never saw him play.
I've seen both Brown and Jok. Brown was better, IMO.
Jok will be missed no doubt but I have confidence that they next guy or guys will emerge. Maybe not in the same way but will fill the void. Moss seems to be a candidate. He can fill it up. Less of a pure 3 PT shooter but better slasher.
The funny thing is I saw the Purdue fans had posted something about 'well they won't have Jok next year so good luck with that type of thing'. Opposing fans have been saying that about our graduating players for years now from Marble, White, Uthoff, etc. only for us to have a new thorn emerge. I remember a Wisky fan sitting behind me telling me how much we were going to suck without Marble anymore ... well.
