Jok exploring Pro options.
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Its okay... reading is hard sometimes. But Chad Leistikow is the Twitter guy that first came across my fees. And nothing is/was mentioned about him actually going pro.
With the rule change it only makes sense for Pete to try and go through the process, if nothing else for the experience. If I recall he would still have to receive an invite, but if invited considering there is zero downside (he can still return to Iowa) he would minimally gain some great feedback for key areas to improve his chances next year.
100k in one year tax free. That's about the average salary in Europe. If he plays ten years over there, that's 1M. Even if he goes that route, he'll need a college degree to fall back on.
http://sportsagentblog.com/2012/07/...asketball-why-dont-more-players-go-to-europe/
http://sportsagentblog.com/2012/07/...asketball-why-dont-more-players-go-to-europe/
Sorry, I cannot believe someone issued a tax analysis. A wrong one. An American employed overseas can earn in 2015 up to $100,500 in income that is excluded from their federal tax reporting. The country or countries where the American citizen works may tax that earned income produce while living and working in those said countries. The US allows for for US citizen taxpayers working in treatied reciprocal countries to be able to receive a tax credit against American tax liability for taxes paid to treatied countries.
Tax free income working abroad takes a lot of maneuvering and is rare.
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It may seem counter intuitive, but Jok going pro could benefit Iowa quite a bit in the long run. Take Jok out of the equation, and the lineup next year is likely
1. Williams (Sophomore), Bohannon (Freshman)
2. Moss (RS Freshman), Fleming (Sophomore)/Ellingson (RS Sophomore)
3. Baer (RS Sophomore), Jones (RS Senior- I believe), Hutton (RS Freshman)
4. Uhl (Junior), Cook (Freshman), Pemsl? (Freshman
5. Wagner (Sophomore), Kriener/Pemsl (Freshmen)
Maybe not exactly, but something similar at least. This is a very young team, and one which will struggle with growing pains early on, but in a couple years could be poised to be Fran's best team yet
1. Williams (Sophomore), Bohannon (Freshman)
2. Moss (RS Freshman), Fleming (Sophomore)/Ellingson (RS Sophomore)
3. Baer (RS Sophomore), Jones (RS Senior- I believe), Hutton (RS Freshman)
4. Uhl (Junior), Cook (Freshman), Pemsl? (Freshman
5. Wagner (Sophomore), Kriener/Pemsl (Freshmen)
Maybe not exactly, but something similar at least. This is a very young team, and one which will struggle with growing pains early on, but in a couple years could be poised to be Fran's best team yet
He has a lot of room to grow. An extra year being the leader and go to guy would be incredibly beneficial to his stock. Just look at Uthoff. His senior year made him some coin.
Jok's only problem to me is he needs to get stronger and add about 5 to 10 pounds. Alot of his issues on taking the ball to the hole was his strength. If that happens he has NBA potential.
In his shoes I would at least test the waters. He has a hard story as a kid and I am sure even European pay checks would do his family well.
Jok is plenty strong, he's got to work on stamina and toughness. He lets fatigue take him out of his game, he lets physical play take him out of his game, he's got to learn how dominant he can be if he takes on those challenges.
Jok needs to develope a stonger game going to the hoop and a little better defense his jumper and reboundimg are good. He will be the man next year with a chance at first big ten and possibly AA honors.
Exactly.
And Jok has 3 years invested already and only 1 to go , plus he's not the talent they were considered to be, so it makes even less sense.
You don't skip out of college unless you're a high nba pick.
I am not saying that he is as talented as they are, but they skipped out on free college and went to play in Europe and now are in the NBA. You said no one in their right mind would pass up free college to play overseas.
If he's pro material that will work itself out and I wish the best for the kid. The bigger issue is does he have issues with teammates, coaches or the school work? Is that what's leading him toward leaving?
I don't think anything is "driving him towards leaving", he was simply asked a question and with the way the rules are this year answered like most any all-conference performer would. Again, this is the first year where guys like this have an opportunity to get invited to the NBA Combine without having to definitively declare for the draft and still be able to return to school. He would be foolish if that opportunity arises to not take advantage of it just for the experience and feedback he would get alone.
I'm sure you are right, I stated it incorrectly. I still wonder if the way Fran has ridden him the past, if that plays into his decision at all.
Agreed. It would be like interviewing for jobs after your junior year, the worst that comes out of it is you experience the process and are better prepared for your senior year.
Ah, I thought you were agreeing with me by pointing out why it's not a great idea.
Mudiay sat on a bench in china for a year. I don't think it was considereda successful move by most.
But really totally different situations.
They were just waiting out the year to get to the nba out of high school. They were going to get a big pay day a year later, not the case for PJ.
One year of college would have accomplished next to nothing for them outside of basketball, one more year for PJ and he has degree.
I agree with that, I am not saying that it is smart but just pointing out a flaw in your original post. You're right though, they are completely different situations.
Mudiay probably accomplished what he wanted though. made $1.2 million and then still got pick in the top 10 in the draft.
How about the freshman bench warmer at SW Missouri State that declared for the draft. Now, there is real stupidity.
I'll say this. The NBA is 3 ball centric. That is Joks biggest strength. He's not going to be asked to be a shot creator like a Janes Harden or a two way player like Jimmy Butler. I could see him in the d league. I mean he averaged more points than any junior at Iowa in the Fran era at like 16.1. He shot 40 percent from three and was in the top ten in steals in the big ten. Do I see him next year on an NBA rotation, no way. But it's not like te big ten has been putting guys in the NBA that are good outside of draymond green, oladipo, Mike Conley and Eric Gordon. Dekker went 18tg and can't play a lick, neither can stauskas, Robinson, mcgary, Cody zeller. If traevon Jackson can play in the d league, so can Peter Jok. He could come off the bench for a d league team. That's not unrealistic.
Is he ready for the NBA right now? Probably not, but he's not as far off as some in this thread think. I think he could really elevate himself with another year at Iowa, but that's his call not ours.
While more consistent this year he is still one of the most streaky shooters ever. He can nail three threes in a row then miss his next five or more. No doubt he is a pure shooter but nba people would probably like a little more consistency. He definitely needs another year of college ball in my humble opinion.
He shot forty percent from three and eighty five percent from the line. That said, I don't think he's on an regular NBA rotation but to think he can't be on a d league roster next year is insane.
By the time teams pick foreign players and what they consider hot freshman prospects there aren't very many more of the 60 players drafted that make an NBA roster as not that many retire each year. There should be a lot of NBA players retiring in the next couple of years because many of them have been playing for 15 to 20 years and maybe some a few more years.
I don't remember the numbers now but earlier this season I checked and less than half of the players taken in the second round of the NBA draft in 2015 were signed after they were drafted last year.
Players not getting drafted often make a team where drafted players do not.
I think Jok would be happier maybe averaging 20 points next season that setting on the bench of an NBA team like Marble who has only played in 19 of the Magic's near 75 games this season averaging 1.9 points. He might also have spent some time in the D league as I know he did last year.
That could work well. He could b on an NBA team or in the d league but most three or four year guys are not in NBA rotations.
- I'm not sure what all the fuss is about...the kid has improved each season at Iowa and finally seems to be fully healed from a significant injury. Why would anyone suggest he NOT put out feelers and see where he stands? Let the process play out. Its been suggested you have to do something really well if not great to make the NBA...shoot lights out, rebound like no other, etc. Reggie Evans had a long and successful career not due to his athleticism, shot,etc....he found a niche by way of rebounding. Jok has a pretty sweet shot...let him figure it out and see what happens....nothing but a good thing(if that is actually what he is doing).
Lol if Fran hadn't ridden him hard he would still be playing against me at the Waukee Y
Da fuk? He singlehandey kept us in or won several games.
Yep, he had 15 straight points. That's just crazy. Who was the last Iowa player to do that. No junior in the Fran era has been named second team all big ten and averaged 16 a game other than Jok.
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