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Judge Skeptical of Claim Search Was Mishandled in Trump Documents Case

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The federal judge overseeing former President Donald J. Trump’s classified documents case showed little patience on Tuesday with an argument by his lawyers that the F.B.I.’s search two years ago of Mar-a-Lago, his private club and residence in Florida, was conducted improperly.
The judge, Aileen M. Cannon, has granted a serious audience to several far-fetched arguments by Mr. Trump’s lawyers. But the skepticism she displayed toward their position at a hearing in Federal District Court in Fort Pierce, Fla., was a rare example of her turning a critical eye on the defense.
At the hearing, Mr. Trump’s legal team had asked Judge Cannon to suppress any evidence collected during the Mar-a-Lago search — including most of the 32 classified documents he has been charged with removing from the White House — because, they said, the warrant was not specific enough about which parts of the property the F.B.I. could search and what items it could seize.
“It seems like it is,” Judge Cannon said, disagreeing with Mr. Trump’s lawyers about the question of specificity and all but ruling against them from the bench. “I have a hard time seeing what other language needed to be included.”
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Granting the defense’s request would be a deadly blow to the classified documents case, keeping the jury from seeing the highly sensitive national security files that Mr. Trump has been accused of holding on to after he left office.

The search of Mar-a-Lago, which took place on Aug. 8, 2022, is the central investigative step in the extraordinary criminal inquiry into Mr. Trump’s handling of classified materials and attempts to obstruct the government’s efforts to retrieve them.
It has engendered yet another conflict between the special counsel’s team and Mr. Trump’s lawyers: The lawyers have accused prosecutors of failing to properly secure the individual items inside the 45 boxes the F.B.I. hauled away from the estate.
Late on Monday night, prosecutors filed court papers pushing back vehemently against Mr. Trump’s claims about the boxes. They said it was all but impossible for the F.B.I. to have kept in order the jumble of items that Mr. Trump had stored in them, describing the contents of the boxes as being organized in a “haphazard manner” and pointing out that materials in them included “newspapers, thank-you notes, Christmas ornaments, magazines, clothing, and photographs of himself and others.”
Tuesday’s hearing about the legality of the search capped three days of proceedings in Fort Pierce that included an expansive debate about the funding and appointment of the special counsel, Jack Smith, who has filed two federal indictments against Mr. Trump, and about Mr. Smith’s attempt to bar the former president from making public remarks that could endanger F.B.I. agents working on the case.



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Over the course of the hearings, Judge Cannon has displayed overt frustration with lawyers from both sides and an intolerance for veering outside the bounds of the discussion at hand.
Despite her insistence that the hearings remain on topic, she has been lax in other ways, allowing a backlog of unresolved decisions to pile up on her docket and declining to set a start date for the trial. That has played directly into Mr. Trump’s strategy of seeking to delay a trial as long as possible.
In court on Tuesday, Judge Cannon’s irritation was mostly focused on Emil Bove, a former federal prosecutor who now represents Mr. Trump.
Addressing the judge, Mr. Bove said the F.B.I. had failed to give the agents who searched Mar-a-Lago sufficiently detailed instructions about where to search and what to search for. He also claimed that the bureau left out of the warrant several critical pieces of information that might have changed the mind of Bruce E. Reinhart, the magistrate judge who approved it.
But Judge Cannon was not buying Mr. Bove’s arguments, pointing out that the warrant “clearly delineated” that agents were authorized to search Mr. Trump’s Palm Beach estate for “physical documents with classification markings.”
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When Mr. Bove accused the F.B.I. of going beyond the terms of the warrant and “rummaging” through the bedrooms of Mr. Trump’s wife and teenage son, Judge Cannon pushed back hard, getting him to admit that nothing had in fact been found in either place.
Mr. Bove then changed directions, suggesting that there had been dissension within the F.B.I. about whether to obtain a warrant to search Mar-a-Lago or to get permission for a consensual search of the property. Judge Cannon effectively said “So what?” — noting that even if people within the bureau disagreed about how to proceed, it had no bearing on whether there was probable cause to conduct the search.
Speaking for the government, David Harbach, one of Mr. Smith’s top deputies, told Judge Cannon that the search had been conducted fairly and professionally. He pointed out that prosecutors included as part of the search warrant’s application package a letter from Mr. Trump’s lawyers setting out their position about the investigation.
Moreover, Mr. Harbach said Mr. Trump’s lawyers had come nowhere near the high legal threshold needed to support a second request they made to Judge Cannon: to hold a fact-finding hearing delving into whether the warrant had been fairly drafted, a step that would largely serve to eat up additional time.
But even though he was clearly winning the day, Mr. Harbach seemed incapable of simply taking the victory and complained to Judge Cannon about the various ways in which Mr. Trump’s lawyers have “hijacked” hearings by persistently going off topic.
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“There’s no hijacking going on,” Judge Cannon snapped back, telling Mr. Harbach the hearing was about to end.
And it did.
 
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Where are all the BUT Trump folks? I thought they would flock to this thread, celebrating this. Wait... they can't because they've said Judge Cannon always rules for Trump, is in Trump's pocket, etc.

This will play itself out. I know it's difficult for BUT Trump people to be patient.
 
Where are all the BUT Trump folks? I thought they would flock to this thread, celebrating this. Wait... they can't because they've said Judge Cannon always rules for Trump, is in Trump's pocket, etc.

This will play itself out. I know it's difficult for BUT Trump people to be patient.

She might be worried about being taken off the case and this may be too far of a stretch even for her. But she has been overruled multiple times ruling in favor of Trump.

You can't take something like this and use it as evidence that she isn't clearly trying to favor Trump.
 
She might be worried about being taken off the case and this may be too far of a stretch even for her. But she has been overruled multiple times ruling in favor of Trump.

You can't take something like this and use it as evidence that she isn't clearly trying to favor Trump.
Tongue in cheek my friend. I like poking fun at the hysteric blue teamers here. Sometimes the red teamer, too, but they already get a lot of grief without me piling on.
 
She might be worried about being taken off the case and this may be too far of a stretch even for her. But she has been overruled multiple times ruling in favor of Trump.

You can't take something like this and use it as evidence that she isn't clearly trying to favor Trump.
Honestly, between this and one of the other recent rulings - kinda wonder if her boss had a quiet conversation with her.
 
Where are all the BUT Trump folks? I thought they would flock to this thread, celebrating this. Wait... they can't because they've said Judge Cannon always rules for Trump, is in Trump's pocket, etc.

This will play itself out. I know it's difficult for BUT Trump people to be patient.
She's doing her best to not get thrown off the case to ensure Donny can keep delaying. And she's not exactly being secretive about it
 
Federal judges don't have a boss.
As a district judge I am pretty sure she has 3 of them, all judges from the 11th Circuit which is who have override power to her rulings.

Thing is she is making paperless rulings which can't be challenged. Not sure why Smith isn't pushing to have her removed, she's way out of her league and has no major trial experience, especially ones involving CIPA.

That said, her bosses can pull her off the case at any time if there is an obvious bias or even appearance that justice will not be fair and equal. Not sure why they haven't yet, but at best she's delayed things till after the election and that is a win for criminal Trump.
 
That said, her bosses can pull her off the case at any time if there is an obvious bias or even appearance that justice will not be fair and equal. Not sure why they haven't yet, but at best she's delayed things till after the election and that is a win for criminal Trump.
Probably because she hasn't done anything to warrant removal.
 
Probably because she hasn't done anything to warrant removal.
She's had to backtrack a few times because of fundamental misunderstands of the law. But she's delaying the trial and making rulings that seem questionable (like asking for jury instructions that consider that the Presidential Records Act is in play here, it is not). She's already been overruled by her bosses several times with Trump related rulings.
 
She's had to backtrack a few times because of fundamental misunderstands of the law. But she's delaying the trial and making rulings that seem questionable (like asking for jury instructions that consider that the Presidential Records Act is in play here, it is not). She's already been overruled by her bosses several times with Trump related rulings.
Her bosses don't seem to think she needs to be removed.
 
Her bosses don't seem to think she needs to be removed.
that’s in large part because it’s not a move anyone likes to make, nor is it requested all that often because most judges do a decent job of making rulings supported by precedent and such. Cannon has gone way out on a limb here…and that’s the opinion of MANY legal experts.
 
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As a district judge I am pretty sure she has 3 of them, all judges from the 11th Circuit which is who have override power to her rulings.

Thing is she is making paperless rulings which can't be challenged. Not sure why Smith isn't pushing to have her removed, she's way out of her league and has no major trial experience, especially ones involving CIPA.

That said, her bosses can pull her off the case at any time if there is an obvious bias or even appearance that justice will not be fair and equal. Not sure why they haven't yet, but at best she's delayed things till after the election and that is a win for criminal Trump.
They can certainly override her decisions, but they can't tell her what to do.

I agree they can remove her from a case if there's cause based on partiality, but it does have to be an obvious bias, and there would need to be clear supporting evidence of that.

She doesn't have a boss, any more than the judges on the 9th circuit who regularly get slapped down by SCOTUS. She can only be fired through impeachment.
 
Trump has all the judges (Cannon, Thomas, Alieto) working for him by slow-walking the two remaining federal cases against him making sure none of the trials occur before the election. Just another example of Trump's favorable two-tier justice system.
 
They can certainly override her decisions, but they can't tell her what to do.

I agree they can remove her from a case if there's cause based on partiality, but it does have to be an obvious bias, and there would need to be clear supporting evidence of that.

She doesn't have a boss, any more than the judges on the 9th circuit who regularly get slapped down by SCOTUS. She can only be fired through impeachment.
They can remove her if there is an appearance that fair justice can't be maintained. It doesn't happen a lot, but she seems to be pushing close to crossing that line. Delay after delay and not understanding the laws at play can give the perception of bias, and that is all it needs.
 
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