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Judge to backers of Jan. 6 rioter: Don’t condone political violence

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A Republican-appointed judge said he plans to send a written response to supporters of a Jan. 6 rioter who claimed that he did nothing wrong, warning the man’s friends and family members that justifying political violence risks further violence in a “vicious cycle” that “rots republics.”

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In an unusual step, U.S. District Judge Royce C. Lamberth filed on the public docket the statement he prepared to sentence Taylor James Johnatakis to more than seven years in prison. Even more atypically, he said he would order his clerk to mail copies to 20 people who wrote letters supporting the defendant — the first time he had done so in his 37-year career — to explain his reasoning.

“January 6 must not become a precedent for further violence against political opponents or governmental institutions,” Lamberth wrote. “This is not normal. This cannot become normal. We as a community, we as a society, we as a country cannot condone the normalization of the January 6 Capitol riot.”



The judge’s move is the latest in a wider public push by federal judges in Washington to counter what polling shows is an uptick in public acceptance of the violent breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, fueled by former president Donald Trump’s escalating rhetoric casting defendants as “political prisoners” and “hostages” who did nothing wrong. Trump has pledged to pardon Capitol riot defendants, including those who assaulted police.

Johnatakis did not directly address the judge’s comments but told Lamberth after his sentence: “I do honor what you have done for the country, and what you’ve done in your career.” In an interview Thursday, Johnatakis’s father — who gave his name as J. Johnatakis — said he did not condone violence and appreciated the judge’s response to his letter for his son. But he said he believes the government is punishing conservatives at the Capitol on Jan. 6 more harshly than liberals who committed violence during racial justice protests in 2020.
“I think a lot of it was overblown, especially when you compare it to other things,” he said.
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In federal court in D.C. on Wednesday, Lamberth said he took “no great pleasure in locking up defendants who led good lives until their actions on January 6, 2021,” but explained, “In our system of justice, we punish people not for their overall character, but for their actions.”
The judge — a Texas-born son of an Army pool mechanic who served in Vietnam as an Army lawyer and who was appointed to the bench in 1987 by Ronald Reagan — said Johnatakis, a 40-year-old from Washington state, appeared to show no true remorse for what he did. The judge also said he was struck that few of his supporters “seem to know what he actually did.” One wrote that the defendant “never would” do anything violent and another said he got “caught up” in the crowd, the judge said.


“In fact it was Mr. Johnatakis himself who organized protesters to violence that day,” Lamberth said. “Mr. Johnatakis was a leader. He knew what he was doing that day.”



One day before the riot, trial evidence showed, Johnatakis posted on social media, “Burn the city down. What the British did to DC will be nothing.”
As he marched to the Capitol the next day, he posted video of himself saying, “We’re walking over to the Capitol right now, and I don’t know, maybe we’ll break down the doors.”
There, he made his way to the front of a mob. Yelling through a megaphone he brought, Johnatakis organized a charge against police, shouting, “One, two, three, go!” and getting rioters to raise a metal bike rack barricade and slam it against police. The assault was confirmed on body-camera video and by officers who said they were seriously injured and feared for their lives.



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“Mr. Johnatakis and the others then raised the barriers higher until they were about head-level with the officers, so that the mob could brawl with the officers without the barriers getting in the way,” Lamberth wrote in the filing.


The attack permitted rioters to overwhelm the final police line defending a staircase on the southwest side of the Capitol and to breach the building immediately afterward, forcing the evacuation of the Capitol.
As he left, Johnatakis boasted on video, “We probably would have murdered a few of” the lawmakers “had we seen exactly who they were.”
Johnatakis apologized to his police victims at trial. But his message changed following his conviction in November on felony counts of obstruction of an official proceeding, rioting and assaulting police as well as four misdemeanors, Lamberth said. In a YouTube video, the defendant said, “We did nothing. We touched a gate. We got pepper-sprayed. We moved back. That was it,” adding “Everything about January 6 is just overblown.”

Johnatakis, a self-employed installer of septic systems and father of five who was supported by family members in attendance, represented himself at trial with an attorney on standby. He invoked anti-government “sovereign citizen” arguments, asking the court after sentencing, “Does the record reflect that I repent in my sins?”


Lamberth’s remarks came one week after another U.S. trial judge in Washington, Reggie B. Walton, denounced Trump’s social media attacks against the judge presiding over his hush money trial in Manhattan and his daughter, calling them assaults on the rule of law that could lead to violence and tyranny. Lamberth previously decried the mainstreaming of “meritless justifications of criminal activity” by Republican politicians defending the actions of Jan. 6 rioters, saying: “I have been dismayed to see distortions and outright falsehoods seep into the public consciousness.”


Five people died in the Jan. 6 attack or in the immediate aftermath, as pro-Trump rioters injured more than 100 police officers, ransacked Capitol offices and forced lawmakers to evacuate. About 486 defendants have been charged with assaulting or impeding officers or employees, including 127 charged with using a deadly or dangerous weapon or causing serious bodily injury.
Lamberth’s remarks appeared to be part of an ongoing civics lesson by judges to a nation deeply split over the meaning of and lessons from Jan. 6. Lamberth stressed that the First Amendment enshrines the American public’s rights to freedom of speech and protest, but it “obviously does not give anyone the right to assault the police.”

 
A Republican-appointed judge said he plans to send a written response to supporters of a Jan. 6 rioter who claimed that he did nothing wrong, warning the man’s friends and family members that justifying political violence risks further violence in a “vicious cycle” that “rots republics.”

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In an unusual step, U.S. District Judge Royce C. Lamberth filed on the public docket the statement he prepared to sentence Taylor James Johnatakis to more than seven years in prison. Even more atypically, he said he would order his clerk to mail copies to 20 people who wrote letters supporting the defendant — the first time he had done so in his 37-year career — to explain his reasoning.

“January 6 must not become a precedent for further violence against political opponents or governmental institutions,” Lamberth wrote. “This is not normal. This cannot become normal. We as a community, we as a society, we as a country cannot condone the normalization of the January 6 Capitol riot.”



The judge’s move is the latest in a wider public push by federal judges in Washington to counter what polling shows is an uptick in public acceptance of the violent breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, fueled by former president Donald Trump’s escalating rhetoric casting defendants as “political prisoners” and “hostages” who did nothing wrong. Trump has pledged to pardon Capitol riot defendants, including those who assaulted police.

Johnatakis did not directly address the judge’s comments but told Lamberth after his sentence: “I do honor what you have done for the country, and what you’ve done in your career.” In an interview Thursday, Johnatakis’s father — who gave his name as J. Johnatakis — said he did not condone violence and appreciated the judge’s response to his letter for his son. But he said he believes the government is punishing conservatives at the Capitol on Jan. 6 more harshly than liberals who committed violence during racial justice protests in 2020.
“I think a lot of it was overblown, especially when you compare it to other things,” he said.
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In federal court in D.C. on Wednesday, Lamberth said he took “no great pleasure in locking up defendants who led good lives until their actions on January 6, 2021,” but explained, “In our system of justice, we punish people not for their overall character, but for their actions.”
The judge — a Texas-born son of an Army pool mechanic who served in Vietnam as an Army lawyer and who was appointed to the bench in 1987 by Ronald Reagan — said Johnatakis, a 40-year-old from Washington state, appeared to show no true remorse for what he did. The judge also said he was struck that few of his supporters “seem to know what he actually did.” One wrote that the defendant “never would” do anything violent and another said he got “caught up” in the crowd, the judge said.


“In fact it was Mr. Johnatakis himself who organized protesters to violence that day,” Lamberth said. “Mr. Johnatakis was a leader. He knew what he was doing that day.”



One day before the riot, trial evidence showed, Johnatakis posted on social media, “Burn the city down. What the British did to DC will be nothing.”
As he marched to the Capitol the next day, he posted video of himself saying, “We’re walking over to the Capitol right now, and I don’t know, maybe we’ll break down the doors.”
There, he made his way to the front of a mob. Yelling through a megaphone he brought, Johnatakis organized a charge against police, shouting, “One, two, three, go!” and getting rioters to raise a metal bike rack barricade and slam it against police. The assault was confirmed on body-camera video and by officers who said they were seriously injured and feared for their lives.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md...mc_magnet-jan6courtcases_inline_collection_19

“Mr. Johnatakis and the others then raised the barriers higher until they were about head-level with the officers, so that the mob could brawl with the officers without the barriers getting in the way,” Lamberth wrote in the filing.


The attack permitted rioters to overwhelm the final police line defending a staircase on the southwest side of the Capitol and to breach the building immediately afterward, forcing the evacuation of the Capitol.
As he left, Johnatakis boasted on video, “We probably would have murdered a few of” the lawmakers “had we seen exactly who they were.”
Johnatakis apologized to his police victims at trial. But his message changed following his conviction in November on felony counts of obstruction of an official proceeding, rioting and assaulting police as well as four misdemeanors, Lamberth said. In a YouTube video, the defendant said, “We did nothing. We touched a gate. We got pepper-sprayed. We moved back. That was it,” adding “Everything about January 6 is just overblown.”

Johnatakis, a self-employed installer of septic systems and father of five who was supported by family members in attendance, represented himself at trial with an attorney on standby. He invoked anti-government “sovereign citizen” arguments, asking the court after sentencing, “Does the record reflect that I repent in my sins?”


Lamberth’s remarks came one week after another U.S. trial judge in Washington, Reggie B. Walton, denounced Trump’s social media attacks against the judge presiding over his hush money trial in Manhattan and his daughter, calling them assaults on the rule of law that could lead to violence and tyranny. Lamberth previously decried the mainstreaming of “meritless justifications of criminal activity” by Republican politicians defending the actions of Jan. 6 rioters, saying: “I have been dismayed to see distortions and outright falsehoods seep into the public consciousness.”


Five people died in the Jan. 6 attack or in the immediate aftermath, as pro-Trump rioters injured more than 100 police officers, ransacked Capitol offices and forced lawmakers to evacuate. About 486 defendants have been charged with assaulting or impeding officers or employees, including 127 charged with using a deadly or dangerous weapon or causing serious bodily injury.
Lamberth’s remarks appeared to be part of an ongoing civics lesson by judges to a nation deeply split over the meaning of and lessons from Jan. 6. Lamberth stressed that the First Amendment enshrines the American public’s rights to freedom of speech and protest, but it “obviously does not give anyone the right to assault the police.”

FFS most of the 2020 violence was the result of right-wing groups like the patriot prayer showing up to places like Seattle to wreak havoc. It wasn't liberals. So sick of the they did it excuse. They didnt'.
 
A Republican-appointed judge said he plans to send a written response to supporters of a Jan. 6 rioter who claimed that he did nothing wrong, warning the man’s friends and family members that justifying political violence risks further violence in a “vicious cycle” that “rots republics.”

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In an unusual step, U.S. District Judge Royce C. Lamberth filed on the public docket the statement he prepared to sentence Taylor James Johnatakis to more than seven years in prison. Even more atypically, he said he would order his clerk to mail copies to 20 people who wrote letters supporting the defendant — the first time he had done so in his 37-year career — to explain his reasoning.

“January 6 must not become a precedent for further violence against political opponents or governmental institutions,” Lamberth wrote. “This is not normal. This cannot become normal. We as a community, we as a society, we as a country cannot condone the normalization of the January 6 Capitol riot.”



The judge’s move is the latest in a wider public push by federal judges in Washington to counter what polling shows is an uptick in public acceptance of the violent breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, fueled by former president Donald Trump’s escalating rhetoric casting defendants as “political prisoners” and “hostages” who did nothing wrong. Trump has pledged to pardon Capitol riot defendants, including those who assaulted police.

Johnatakis did not directly address the judge’s comments but told Lamberth after his sentence: “I do honor what you have done for the country, and what you’ve done in your career.” In an interview Thursday, Johnatakis’s father — who gave his name as J. Johnatakis — said he did not condone violence and appreciated the judge’s response to his letter for his son. But he said he believes the government is punishing conservatives at the Capitol on Jan. 6 more harshly than liberals who committed violence during racial justice protests in 2020.
“I think a lot of it was overblown, especially when you compare it to other things,” he said.
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In federal court in D.C. on Wednesday, Lamberth said he took “no great pleasure in locking up defendants who led good lives until their actions on January 6, 2021,” but explained, “In our system of justice, we punish people not for their overall character, but for their actions.”
The judge — a Texas-born son of an Army pool mechanic who served in Vietnam as an Army lawyer and who was appointed to the bench in 1987 by Ronald Reagan — said Johnatakis, a 40-year-old from Washington state, appeared to show no true remorse for what he did. The judge also said he was struck that few of his supporters “seem to know what he actually did.” One wrote that the defendant “never would” do anything violent and another said he got “caught up” in the crowd, the judge said.


“In fact it was Mr. Johnatakis himself who organized protesters to violence that day,” Lamberth said. “Mr. Johnatakis was a leader. He knew what he was doing that day.”



One day before the riot, trial evidence showed, Johnatakis posted on social media, “Burn the city down. What the British did to DC will be nothing.”
As he marched to the Capitol the next day, he posted video of himself saying, “We’re walking over to the Capitol right now, and I don’t know, maybe we’ll break down the doors.”
There, he made his way to the front of a mob. Yelling through a megaphone he brought, Johnatakis organized a charge against police, shouting, “One, two, three, go!” and getting rioters to raise a metal bike rack barricade and slam it against police. The assault was confirmed on body-camera video and by officers who said they were seriously injured and feared for their lives.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md...mc_magnet-jan6courtcases_inline_collection_19

“Mr. Johnatakis and the others then raised the barriers higher until they were about head-level with the officers, so that the mob could brawl with the officers without the barriers getting in the way,” Lamberth wrote in the filing.


The attack permitted rioters to overwhelm the final police line defending a staircase on the southwest side of the Capitol and to breach the building immediately afterward, forcing the evacuation of the Capitol.
As he left, Johnatakis boasted on video, “We probably would have murdered a few of” the lawmakers “had we seen exactly who they were.”
Johnatakis apologized to his police victims at trial. But his message changed following his conviction in November on felony counts of obstruction of an official proceeding, rioting and assaulting police as well as four misdemeanors, Lamberth said. In a YouTube video, the defendant said, “We did nothing. We touched a gate. We got pepper-sprayed. We moved back. That was it,” adding “Everything about January 6 is just overblown.”

Johnatakis, a self-employed installer of septic systems and father of five who was supported by family members in attendance, represented himself at trial with an attorney on standby. He invoked anti-government “sovereign citizen” arguments, asking the court after sentencing, “Does the record reflect that I repent in my sins?”


Lamberth’s remarks came one week after another U.S. trial judge in Washington, Reggie B. Walton, denounced Trump’s social media attacks against the judge presiding over his hush money trial in Manhattan and his daughter, calling them assaults on the rule of law that could lead to violence and tyranny. Lamberth previously decried the mainstreaming of “meritless justifications of criminal activity” by Republican politicians defending the actions of Jan. 6 rioters, saying: “I have been dismayed to see distortions and outright falsehoods seep into the public consciousness.”


Five people died in the Jan. 6 attack or in the immediate aftermath, as pro-Trump rioters injured more than 100 police officers, ransacked Capitol offices and forced lawmakers to evacuate. About 486 defendants have been charged with assaulting or impeding officers or employees, including 127 charged with using a deadly or dangerous weapon or causing serious bodily injury.
Lamberth’s remarks appeared to be part of an ongoing civics lesson by judges to a nation deeply split over the meaning of and lessons from Jan. 6. Lamberth stressed that the First Amendment enshrines the American public’s rights to freedom of speech and protest, but it “obviously does not give anyone the right to assault the police.”

well I'm glad this judge takes his job seriously.
 
Stop lying.
Did you live in Seattle? Were you in Portland? I was in both. I am not lying and I saw it with my own eyes. Most of those arrested were part of right wing groups.

It would help if you did some research.

 
While I remain skeptical of suggestions that 1/6 was some sort of revolutionary event, I think Royce’s decision and actions here are spot on. The simple fact is, ragtag band or not, no one could reasonably believe they could go roaming around congress in that way, and they ought to be sentenced accordingly, because if this country has one thing going for it, it has been the peaceful transition of power.

Royce really is the man. A conservative, but truly independent judge, who has no problem sticking it to the g (as he did in some of the Indian trust cases). But before you start a love affair here for him, recognize that he’s also the guy that torpedoed Hillary’s health care task force under faca (in a case litigated by my bro in law).
 
Did you live in Seattle? Were you in Portland? I was in both. I am not lying and I saw it with my own eyes. Most of those arrested were part of right wing groups.

It would help if you did some research.


Did you even read your own article?

Stop lying.
 
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While I remain skeptical of suggestions that 1/6 was some sort of revolutionary event, I think Royce’s decision and actions here are spot on. The simple fact is, ragtag band or not, no one could reasonably believe they could go roaming around congress in that way, and they ought to be sentenced accordingly, because if this country has one thing going for it, it has been the peaceful transition of power.

Royce really is the man. A conservative, but truly independent judge, who has no problem sticking it to the g (as he did in some of the Indian trust cases). But before you start a love affair here for him, recognize that he’s also the guy that torpedoed Hillary’s health care task force under faca (in a case litigated by my bro in law).
Everyone deserves a fair trial. But if you were there on 1/6... and you entered the Capitol Building, under any circumstances the minimum sentence should be 1 year in prison if you were one of the "peaceful" people walking between the ropes as if on a guided tour. The sentences should be increased if they went into restricted areas, there was evidence of destruction of property, assault etc.

I do believe there were many people walking around in the ropes who didn't think they were really doing anything wrong, but should have known better anyway and they deserve some punishment but those people don't need to be made an example of. Now viking guy... yeah or anyone who was caught with weapon... 10 year minimum.
 
I'm a big accountability guy. But everyone is kidding themselves if they won't acknowledge that the American justice system is handling the capitol riot much differently than the 2020 riots.

One was far more violent, deadly and costly.
One kind of riot was a local crime based on the fact that cops killed an unarmed guy. The other was a federal crime based on a fantasy that Trump actually won the election and had it stolen from him.
 
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One was about overturning the results of a duly held election at the US Capitol.

The other was protesting racial injustice, all over this land.

Those miscreants had about as much chance of overturning the election as as me growing wings and flying to the moon.

To your second point, it was riots based largely on false narratives.
 
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I'm a big accountability guy. But everyone is kidding themselves if they won't acknowledge that the American justice system is handling the capitol riot much differently than the 2020 riots.

One was far more violent, deadly and costly.
As they should treat them differently. It’s not hard to grasp why. One is much more serious than the other.

Again liberals aren’t without some culpability for the Floyd riots but the violence was largely perpetuated by the far right. You don’t live here so really don’t have a effing clue. In fact I doubt you have been to either city.
 
One kind of riot was a local crime based on the fact that cops killed an unarmed guy. The other was a federal crime based on a fantasy that Trump actually won the election and had it stolen from him.
I don't think motivation should matter. The punishment should fit the crime that you are charged and CONVICTED of.
 
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FFS most of the 2020 violence was the result of right-wing groups like the patriot prayer showing up to places like Seattle to wreak havoc. It wasn't liberals. So sick of the they did it excuse. They didnt'.
JFC! If you believe this, you should be institutionalized and given a double lobotomy!
 
I don't think motivation should matter. The punishment should fit the crime that you are charged and CONVICTED of.
No. I don’t give a fvck about what they do to the rioters in Minneapolis. That is 100% up to the liberals there who seem perfectly content with allowing their city turn to shit. Good luck to them if that’s how they think things should go.

The Capitol building is all of ours. The national election and congress is all of ours. An attempt to ransack and overturn it needs to be dealt with by our national government. Pieces of shit chanting “Hang Mike Pence” should be fvcking shot in the ****ing head head for treason.
 
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I don't think motivation should matter. The punishment should fit the crime that you are charged and CONVICTED of.
agreed

people who burn down buildings should go to jail for arson
people who steal things should go to jail for theft
people who violently storm a government building for the purpose of preventing a transfer of power should go to jail for sedition or insurrection
 
Not to mention that there is absolutely no comparison between the two types of violent behavior!
Sounds like it, you ****ing rockhead:

  • Damages caused by the 2020 Black Lives Matter protests were estimated to cost $2 billion, a number that could "still go higher," according to a February 2021 report published on the World Economic Forum's website. The report was authored by the head of Property Claim Services, which has tracked protest-related insurance claims for decades.
 
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I'm a big accountability guy. But everyone is kidding themselves if they won't acknowledge that the American justice system is handling the capitol riot much differently than the 2020 riots.

One was far more violent, deadly and costly.
And the other was a violent attempt to overthrow the legally elected President of the United States. You're comparing apples and lawn mowers.
 
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No. I don’t give a fvck about what they do to the rioters in Minneapolis. That is 100% up to the liberals there who seem perfectly content with allowing their city turn to shit. Good luck to them if that’s how they think things should go.

The Capitol building is all of ours. The national election and congress is all of ours. An attempt to ransack and overturn it needs to be dealt with by our national government. Pieces of shit chanting “Hang Mike Pence” should be fvcking shot in the ****ing head head for treason.
That's probably over the top for "chanting"
 
Everyone deserves a fair trial. But if you were there on 1/6... and you entered the Capitol Building, under any circumstances the minimum sentence should be 1 year in prison if you were one of the "peaceful" people walking between the ropes as if on a guided tour. The sentences should be increased if they went into restricted areas, there was evidence of destruction of property, assault etc.

I do believe there were many people walking around in the ropes who didn't think they were really doing anything wrong, but should have known better anyway and they deserve some punishment but those people don't need to be made an example of. Now viking guy... yeah or anyone who was caught with weapon... 10 year minimum.
i'm ok with one. honestly not sure who viking guy is, but if he had a weapon in the capitol, that's a no-brainer 5 at least without even wondering what the sentencing guidelines would provide.
 
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Those miscreants had about as much chance of overturning the election as as me growing wings and flying to the moon.

To your second point, it was riots based largely on false narratives.
Regardless of the odds for success, the fact is that trumpers attempted to change the results of a national election. Yes, we know most of them couldn't out-wit a room full of special ed kids, but that's not the point.

And you'll have to share what false narrative you're referring to.
 
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One kind of riot was a local crime based on the fact that cops killed an unarmed guy. The other was a federal crime based on a fantasy that Trump actually won the election and had it stolen from him.
...yet in either case, justification is not a defense. same sentences in my book, and i suspect if you dig into the sentencing guidelines, they'd probably say the same thing by the time all of the reductions and multipliers were considered.
 
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agreed

people who burn down buildings should go to jail for arson
people who steal things should go to jail for theft
people who violently storm a government building for the purpose of preventing a transfer of power should go to jail for sedition or insurrection
Agreed, and those charged with sedition or insurrection and convicted should be made an example of. Simply "parading" as many/most people were charged with should get maybe 1 year in prison, lose their ability to vote and own a gun for life.
 
That's not what you said and I highlighted. You said chanting which last I checked should still fall under peaceful protest until you know... it goes beyond that.
I get it. I also said they should be shot in the head. Just because I want it. Not because it should be law. Eff them. Losers. All of them.
 
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Everyone deserves a fair trial. But if you were there on 1/6... and you entered the Capitol Building, under any circumstances the minimum sentence should be 1 year in prison if you were one of the "peaceful" people walking between the ropes as if on a guided tour. The sentences should be increased if they went into restricted areas, there was evidence of destruction of property, assault etc.

I do believe there were many people walking around in the ropes who didn't think they were really doing anything wrong, but should have known better anyway and they deserve some punishment but those people don't need to be made an example of. Now viking guy... yeah or anyone who was caught with weapon... 10 year minimum.

The Capitol was closed on January 6 to the public so there was no people on a guided tour.
 
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